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It's not usually who I am either and I'm so scared that I will always feel this way. I think I'm suffering with depression again and I don't know whether my GD has got worse because I'm feeling like this, or if the GD has caused it to return.
Truth be told I want to delete everyone who has a daughter, but I can't just delete them all from my life so I have to suck it up and deal with it.
Everyone says one day we will have granddaughters but it isn't the same. I see so many women moaning about their mother in laws (even the ones they actually love dearly) getting on their nerves by wanting to do too much with the grandkids, wanting to do their hair and buying them cloths that they think are ugly.

Ah ladies I hear you, I am the same just hate feeling these feeling towards others and wondering how they get what we want so easily!
I'm scared about my sway too, I've purchased a personalised plan to help but know it's obviously not a guarantee, In my heart of hearts I know I'll be fine with a third boy,.....it's other peoples opinions and snidey comments that im dreading! Whatever the gender tbh and far too many people have an opinion on how out should live your life! It just gets me down you know!

I know what you mean, other people cant just not comment on your family make up and anything to do with your life really. People just don't think, which is stupid because they obviously assume that you must want a girl but then make upsetting comments about not having a girl and don't think you'll be upset. Mental

Oh the comments are the worst!!! I was grocery shopping earlier, DH with me and DS2 Sat in the trolley (DS1 was at Montessori) and the checkout girl asked me how old DS2 was. I said almost 14 months and she said she has a little girl at home who is almost 18 months but not as chatty as my little man. I jokingly said that DS2 is a right character and always chatting and trying to annoy me and she said "oh yeah, that's boys for you! I was so glad when I found out I was having a girl!" Then she says "Oh and you have 2 boys is it? Oh God I'd say the only way you'd go again would be if you were guaranteed a girl!" Seriously?!?!?!?! A random checkout girl says all this to me just when I am at my lowest longing for a daughter. Thanks for that, I have been in terrible form all night!!

What an awful awful thing to say!! I know people don't think but sometimes I think they know what they are saying! My ex manager sat there last year and proceeded to say to everyone how boys are horrible and smelly and not as wonderful as her princess daughter! Needless to say I didn't sit and listen to that and went to town on her! My collegues backed me lucky enough and as one has all girls and would have loved a DS backed me all the way telling her how smelly girls can be too! lol!
She deliberately said it to get my back up but i think she was surprised when I retaliated! lol

I think I was just shocked hence why I didn't say much at all. I don't get all this "boy hating" that goes on, for some reason I think girls are the more desired gender in my area. I wouldn't trade my boys for ANYTHING, some people just need to learn to have respect!!

Urgh I've had someone tell me out right that society values girls more because girls are straight up more worthy. That men are only needed for sperm and can then move on but women are needed to carry the child and nurture it until it's old enough to look after itself. That's why people 'don't cars' about letting their boys go out to play by themselves and worry less about their boys. Because they are not as valuable, then said "that's not to say anyone's boys are worthless" erm actually yeah that is what you said, you basically just told me boys are second class citizens and not as good as girls. Of course she only has 1 daughter.
I also sat at a table with 3 women, all of whom had 1 daughter each, and they all told me how glad they were they got a girl first because the second ones (when they eventually have them) gender didn't matter now they had their girls. If they had had a boy first they would have been desperate for a girl second. Like they don't care if they ever have a boy.
But I know that people with all girls get it back about how they must want a boy.
I'm finally watching the first 2 episodes of this series one born and probably wasn't a good idea lol

Lol obem will just make you soooo much more broody lol! I need to watch tonight's yet!
Omg that's a horrible thing for that woman to say!! Honestly I feel it too it's like having boys is doing something wrong! I idolise my boys and same as you both would never trade them! It's how people perceive boys that help cause GD I think! Wish people would keep minds open and mouths shut!!!

Well one born certainly didn't help me lol I didn't see tonight's though. They seem to have decided to put everything I want to watch on at the same time on Monday and Tuesday nights and left the rest of the week empty lol I'll probably watch it on 4OD tomorrow.
I agree, mind open mouth shut. I know one thing though, I try to be so much more careful with my words now. And IF I ever did have a girl I would be very conscious not to over do the Facebook pink. I'm thinking of deleting another person because all she does is talk about how naughty and horrible her 2 boys are and how perfect her daughter is.


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OMG no way! I always honestly think, no know I'd never feel any different about my boys if I had a dd how must her poor boys feel? Breaks my heart! :(

I deleted her. She's one of those who posts every five minutes anyway and I remember before her daughter she really wanted a girl but then after she got her when I tried to talk about wanting a girl all I got was "it doesn't matter as long as they are healthy" well yeah that's what we want over anything else but doesn't stop us wanting a girl. Honestly at Christmas one of her boys found 1 of his brothers presents and she was ranting on facebook that he was a little shit who ruined everything, he daughter finds all her presents and it's 'so cute'. She moaned how hard boys are to buy for, not when you have boys and know what your boys like, only difficulty I've had is the cross over between wanting toys and not wanting toys. I looked at ds1s presents and thought they all looked so boring because he is into books, but fact books rather than stories. And ds2 just kept asking for "toblerone and surprises" lol her boys are still just either side of ds3s age where they are really into toys and it's so much fun buying for them.


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Absolutely right she should know what her boys are into and she would know if she invested any time in them! Oh how sad her poor boys! Seeing things like that really make my heart hurt!!

I understand wanting a girl, and I understand being disappointed when you first hear boy, and even when you've got them in your arms loving them so much but still longing for a girl. But I don't understand thinking they are bad or not good enough just because of their gender.


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Totally agree mob. It's heartbreaking to think how those boys will grow up thinking they are unloved and not wanted. I feel more protective of my boys and tell them how much I love them all the time. I've always embraced making them happy and buying them things I know they will love. It's my job and I love it. My GD was always separate to my sons, it was my issue, not their failure. We are open about our joy at having a girl for all of us, and they Adore her, she is the baby after all. I want them to grow up being protective of her and they are so far, they were even before she was born especially my eldest! As we are older parents 39&40) I especially want them to look out for their little brother and sister, one day they will need their big brothers to be there for them. I certainly don't want my sons resenting "the princess", and I'll work hard to ensure they understand yes we wanted a daughter, as well as them not instead of, as they are all my heart, always xx


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We've been offered a house! John isn't over the moon about the area and I think he'll still be able to moan about parking (he was hoping for a drive lol) but he has agreed to at least view it


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Fantastic news MOB!! So pleased for you! I hope you both like it!!

Mrs Incredible I couldn't have put that better if I tried!! I openly discuss my desire for a girl with my mum, she totally gets it, 3girls before my brother. She so supportive and we often say how if I have a daughter it will be as well as not instead of my boys! My boys are my world and they light up my life and I know everyone else here feels the same! GD is awful but you're right it's completely separate to our children we have, they have done no wrong they just are the miracles they are!

Good luck viewing the house mob! Foxymrsg, my mum had gd but got the girls she wanted. After i had ds1 she was head over heels in love with him like i was (she now knows how wrong she was about boys!!) She still calls him "my j" and adores him and his brothers. Even tho she loves her grandsons sooo much she really understood my desire for a daughter despite it looking for a long time as if my sister couldn't have children. She never cast that up, she could easily have told me to be grateful even tho she knew i was. I cried down the phone after my gender scan with ds3, i was heartbroken (he is still our baby and he is just perfect) My 3 boys are loved for being themselves, as will dd. Ds2 is also a great kid, he was a hilarious toddler who entertained us so much, and at 8 he is still entertaining us with his imagination :) I'm glad i had that support and wasn't criticised or made to feel ungrateful or ashamed. These forums helped me realise my feelings were normal and opened up to those close to me, she knew we swayed for ds3, and recently i told her what i think swayed for dd and her own 2 daughters!. Its a shame irl "babies are a blessing/as long as it's healthy" is the standard response. Erm, yeh ... But .. Xx

Just got back from a weekend with friends and first thing john says is "I drove down that road on the way home" and starts going on about the undesirables that live round there. So I said fine we can just live here forever! He hasn't mentioned it again. Yes it's not as nice an area as this one but its a bigger house and surely we can keep looking once we are in there. If we turn it down we will go to the bottom of the list and it'll be she's before we are offered anything again


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Oh mob what a crap situation! It just makes it so much less fun, the way I see it is when you're indoors and your door is shut you don't see what's going on outside! Every area has it's 'dodgy' places but sometimes they sound or look worse then they really are! Hope he comes round to at least viewing it! Once you're in there you may be able to do a swap with someone I know loads of people who have done that as someone may have family in that area and want to move back are in a big house and so they won't move them they have to wait for a swap! You never know!

Ah mrs incredible it really does make a difference having a mum who understands! I feel for my sister as she has 3 girls and I know would have loved a boy but we never discuss it. It's hard to be the one to start the subject you know? Yes it's so amazing looking at my mums past diet and how she got her girls.....she certainly didn't get us by douching! Lol! She did have a lot of calcium with us and not my brother but I don't think that was what swayed it well not the calcium I think she probably had low overall calories and most of them were made up with milk etc so she was still on LE in a way if that makes sense? Lol

He drove me round there this morning telling me horror stories of the area and basically thinks it's better to go to the bottom of the list and be stuck here longer in a nicer area but uncomfortable than be stuck in a not so nice area but comfortable while we waited to move again. He seems to have his mind made up. If we go to the bottom of the list now I can't see us moving in time to have another baby


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He has phoned and told them we don't want to view, that it was advertised as the wrong area and we are not interested in the area. It didn't matter what I said he wasn't budging so I said it was a waste of time him missing work and us viewing knowing that we wasn't going to accept it. It would just make me sadder to walk round in there thinking what could be and knowing it wouldn't


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Oh Hun, hopefully because you've not viewed it it won't go against you? They've advertised it as the wrong area so not fair they want to put you at the bottom of the list!

I honestly don't think he will ever get what he is hoping for house wise. I almost told him that I was going and it was up to him whether he came with us or not because I don't believe he wouldn't choose to come with us. But then anything that goes wrong will all be my fault.
We only planned to be here 6 months, that was 8 years ago next week. 5 years ago I was desperate to move and yet we are still here, he kept saying to renew the contract one more time, that it wasn't the right time to move and it would do for a while longer.
I came home from a weekend away to him in a terrible mood, since he phoned and said we are not interested he is suddenly in a really good mood. I don't think we will ever move, there will always be a problem with something to do with any potential houses.

Oh no does he have a sentimental attachment to the house? I know it sounds funny but my dads like that my mum is desperate to move but my dad keeps dragging his heels because the house is a carbon copy of the one he grew up in so ge feels emotionally attached to it!

Well three of the boys were born here but I think that's more of a woman's sentimentality. He is just a snob about the areas. We joined the list in April, but I didn't bid on anything for over 6 months because he didn't like any of the areas. I think he is holding out for this idea of what he wants, which unfortunately is as likely to come up on a council housing list as we are to win the lottery.


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Yes my dad's not sentimental about us being born in house but his childhood! Strange man my dad can be though lol!
Ah it's soo frustrating waiting for a house I feel your pain too. We've sold but struggling to find anywhere to buy and all of life's plans are ok hold until then. It just frustrates me that some people get things so easily and were still at square 1! I don't get why that is sometimes!

I was starting to plan and get excited about the prospect of being settled before ttc, but now our status has gone from a number to 'not prioritised' so I think ttc will be delayed even longer.


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Oh no! :( that's such a shame that you're now not prioritised! Oh that's so rubbish!! :(

It sucks, big time. But nothing I can do about it now. I just hope it doesn't take too long to work back up the list. I've been so angry with him but it's not helping anyone, I swear he better not moan about this house again though.


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Yes you're right being angry doesn't help and it's good to keep calm and not be stressed, just in case there's an oops baby, you don't want high testosterone levels lol! Yeah don't blame you though bet he knows to tread on egg shells about the house now though lol

There's not a chance of that, it must be the pill but I just don't feel like doing that at all right now. That's how it stops you getting pregnant lmao


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LOL! He must be feeling punished that way then lol

Probably, that isn't what it is, but it might feel that way lol still I bet he'd rather go without that than have me storming about the house in a bad mood all day, every day.


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Lol! Men unfortunately can be very hard work some days!! :( as much as we love them

They are definitely from Mars lol


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Please can someone from the UK Send me a link or advise me where to get a load of cheap but good opks please

I bought bulk on ebay for the little strip ones, 30 at a time with strip some pg tests too ss i was a total poas addict :)

The wondfo ones? Are they good? Also where do u get the containers from to pee in??

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I used these 2-3 times a day. I just bought plastic party cups to pee in. Good luck. I miss poas lol x

Thank you