January 2WW

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I am sure your cheats were fine XX! Do you think it was the acupuncture that made you O earlier than expected?


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Well, I am not happy about my diet. I kind of viewed this month as somewhat of a break, even though we BDed. I usually O day 13-16 and didn't expect to O CD10!

I think it is a combination of things- not being as strict on the diet (I have only gone over in calories) only BFing twice a day, and the acupuncture.

I am working on being ok not having another child. That is my goal- to make peace with the situation I am in and to be happy with what I have. It's a work in progress....

FX for everyone waiting to test! We should have a lot of ladies getting ready to test soon! I am getting excited for all of you!!


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Wow, xx and maiden, you are in sync both o'ing a little early! That's interesting. I know being around other ladies regularly puts you in cycle with them, but I thought it was pheromones, so I don't know how that would happen via internet.

I'm hoping the specialist runs a bloodtest to check all of my hormones and maybe progesterone spit test. Has anyone here ever done that? I'm thinking I'm estrogen dominate or low progesterone and maybe some progesterone cream would help, but I don't want to do anything until I'm sure that's it.

Sage- I feel like there are a few little tweaks that can make a big difference and I hope something like that helps for you :)

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Well according to FF and my own chart and symptoms it is now clear that I actually ovulated on CD 13. We bd that night but only 4 hours after using rephresh. We're probably not in with a great chance, if any are we 😣 another month of nonstop exercise.. Grrrr... I hate that my cycles were pretty regular since I started charting but since last month they are all over the place.

I hope you're feeling better Maiden and XX.. Wouldn't it be the best outcome if you did get a sticky pink bean when you were off track a bit and not expecting it. I'm hopeful for you xxx


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Sorry Sage.. I'm not up to date with what is going on with you... Are you spotting before your period? What is happening that makes you think you have low progesterone?


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Thanks, Sunbuny! Ugh, I don't know how you do all the exercise. I would choose the starving couch potato option, lol. That's how I was with my dd. I had Lyme at the time, so zero energy, basically laying around all day, and feeling sick if I ate. I couldn't eat any grains, not even rice or potatoes for like 2 weeks. I don't wish Lyme on anyone and do not recommend it at all, but my experience lines up with the HE/LE theories.

I have no idea what's going on, that's why we're going to see a NaPro ob/gyn. I'm ovulating every month, our bding timing is perfect, and my lp is consistently 12 days. It sometimes it starts with spotting. That and the declining temps in the 2ww and my history make me wonder about low progesterone, but I can't say for sure. That's why I want some tests. Also my cm is not what it once was before dd. I'm not getting good ewcm at o and then I get some similar to ew at a certain point during the 2ww, and I do know that indicates the hormone balance is off.

Junie, yes, I'm thinking I just need a little tweak, but what? That's the big question. I keep trying things slightly different each month with supplements, diet, timing, bding positions, laying with hips propped, etc., but it's like playing darts in the dark -- I have no idea how to adjust my aim to hit the target!

I think yesterday was definitely a fluke..phew! I also do see a little progression on my cheap OPKs, though my CBFM and CBAD are both still Low. So I'm at least 5 days away from O still. Not feeling great but that's probably bc I didn't sleep much last night, and it will help me fix my schedule so worth it for sure.

If I HAD Oed I would totally blame XX since I ALWAYS sync to other women, never the reverse. But it is via pheromones and has only happened when I spend significant time with an Oing female or live with/near one. I even synced to my last cat before I got her fixed!

sage, I wouldn't suspect a hormonal balance at all from your charts. Is that the only reason you think that?

Sunbuny your attempt sounds good to me! I don't think rephresh is that great anyway.

Well I am not sure if I did O on CD10. I am waiting to get more temps to be sure. When I was up with DS2 last night, from 3:30am-4:30am, I had SEVERE O pains! Luckily they have gone away now and thinking maybe I Oed then? That would explain my temp being the same as yesterday's when normally it jumps pretty high after O has happened.

Something is happening!

GL and FX for you ladies! Hoping to see more BFPs soon!!!


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I usually have my worst O pain from 12-4am and then get a temp rise later that morning. Can you link your chart in your signature so we can stalk you, XX?

sage, having fertile CM after O isn't necessarily a sign of something wrong. I would want some good EWCM leading up to O for a boy sway, though. I assume you already drink lots of water, take fish oil, and have tried Mucinex? Those are all great for EWCM production. You could try sperm friendly lube. I love YesBaby which I used last cycle due to being dry and will use again if necessary.

Sage- The good thing is that the Dr. will definitely have some good ideas/tests to try and hopefully next cycle you will already know enough or be able to make enough changes to get a BFP!

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Great that you're getting yourself checked out Sage and that you're armed with all your stats like temp and cm. Best of luck xx


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Feeling down today gals. On day 11 past pos opk. I've been having random cramping since the 5th day after pos opk. I'm guessing my chances of BFP are relatively slim.
Every thing about this ovulation seemed so much better than any of my last for months! Had EWCM on Thursday (day of pos opk) until Saturday. We DTD Tuesday evening not expecting a pos opk on day 27 of cycle. So we BD on Thursday evening too and called it good. I had O pain in both sides and lots of bloating and some minor cramping as well. All seemed good and on track. I guess I'm bumbing off of good timing to catch an egg and good CM and another BFN :(
I'll probably test Fri morning and know for sure Saturday morning this week. I'll update when I know.

So is the cramping making you feel AF is coming? I would say you have a great shot given your BD timing and the like. I'll be surprised if you get a BFN! Have you tested yet, or are you waiting until the day AF is supposed to show?

FX for you!!!!


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I've tightened back up on the diet and am hungry! Grrr! I needed to reduce cals since I am BFing DS2 twice a day now. Plus I am trying to bust my a$$ to get down to 115. I had late onset GD with DS2 and I want to still be in my normal BMI range at term. I seem to gain 25lbs when pregnant so I want to be sure to be under or at 145lbs. I fluctuate between 119-123. I want to be 115-120. Time to crack the whip!!!

I guess I am being picky. At my current range, 119-123, I am 5-9lbs lighter than when I conceived DS1 and 12-16lbs lighter than when I conceived DS2. I need some sort of goal to work towards, since it is taking FOREVER to get a BFP!


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I started the February 2ww thread. I can't believe it is that time already!


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I agree with you on the exercise Sunbuny!!! I dread it every day!

Maiden I am happy that you haven't o'd yet, that way you still have a chance this month! Are you only using soy iso this month?

XX, I would love to stalk your chart also!! I only temped with my very first pregnancy and rather enjoyed it:) Kind of wish I did now but chose not to because I was afraid I would obsess over it.

Sageviolet- I really hope you can figure out things soon. FX the re has words of wisdom for you;)

EmileeJane- have you tested yet. I think cramping can be just as much a good sign then bad! Good Luck:)


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Junie- have you been to the Dr yet? Sorry if I missed it in a post:-/ I was thinking maybe you are still waiting for your hcg to drop?? That was one of the hardest parts of my mmc journey. Sending good thoughts your way!!!


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EmileeJane... Cramping can be a good sign. I had so much cramping with my first pregnancy. Fx for you.

Wow XX... Feb already 😁😔 when should we start using that?


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Good luck everyone testing soon!

XX-- How tall are you? Don't get too thin as it will affect your fertility negatively, especially since you are still breastfeeding.

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Originally Posted by QueenB3blue

XX, I would love to stalk your chart also!! I only temped with my very first pregnancy and rather enjoyed it:) Kind of wish I did now but chose not to because I was afraid I would obsess over it.

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I'll post a pic of it tomorrow after I take my temp. I use a free period tracker, my days, that I input my temps. Thanks ladies! I think I Oed today and that is why my temp this morning was the same as yesterday. If I am right, my temp should be higher in the morning.


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[QUOTE=Sunbuny;675811]EmileeJane... Cramping can be a good sign. I had so much cramping with my first pregnancy. Fx for you.

Wow XX... Feb already 😁😔 when should we start using that?


Whenever! It's up for posting 😉!


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Originally Posted by essnce629

Good luck everyone testing soon!

XX-- How tall are you? Don't get too thin as it will affect your fertility negatively, especially since you are still breastfeeding.

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I am 5ft 4in. My healthy range is 108-145. I want to get to 115 because I gain 25lbs when pregnant, and I want to be at or preferably below 145. I had late onset GD at 36 weeks with DS2, and I believe it was my weight that caused it- I was 160 when diagnosed! Yikes! But my starting weight was 135.


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Well, I guess I'm here. Oops. Actually hoping I'm not pregnant right now. My cycle has gotten a lot shorter recently and I haven't fully adjusted. Realised after the fact that there was a good chance I'll ovulate in 2 days.

I've gotten pregnant on one try every time...just don't usually keep them, but the last time was nearly 4 years ago & I just turned 41 so, maybe not?

I had everything planned for next cycle at the earliest.

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13dpo!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by QueenB3blue

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13dpo!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Yay!!!!!! Congrats! I am over the moon with joy for you Queen! I am praying for a healthy, sticky, preferably pink, bean for you!!

This is AWESOME!!!!


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Thank you!! It is crazy because this time last week I was sooo sure I was out!


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QueenB yea!!! So excited for you! Jan 2ww needed to start seeing some positives!! Let's keep this ball rolling! I'm 4dpo..... Time goes so slow. I've been having cramping so I'm wondering if the clomid may have caused a cyst on my left ovary(that's the side that hurts). Or maybe it's just the egg working its way down:)

queenb yey!!! so happy for u xxxx

[QUOTE=maidentomother;675543]I think yesterday was definitely a fluke..phew! I also do see a little progression on my cheap OPKs, though my CBFM and CBAD are both still Low. So I'm at least 5 days away from O still. Not feeling great but that's probably bc I didn't sleep much last night, and it will help me fix my schedule so worth it for sure.

If I HAD Oed I would totally blame XX since I ALWAYS sync to other women, never the reverse. But it is via pheromones and has only happened when I spend significant time with an Oing female or live with/near one. I even synced to my last cat before I got her fixed!

Maiden- we really are cosmically connected somehow, because we both keep experiencing the same things, give or take a day or two! I don't think I have Oed yet either and will attempt again tonight. I think the acupuncture is affecting things and bet I need the full 12 weeks before things balance out. I have attached my chart. Funny though, I am getting negative opks and you see the day of my positive on my chart with the yellow egg. Could I have a surge that far out from actual O? Or was that a false surge, and should I keep testing?

The 2 high temps, I was up in the middle of the night with DS2, and I bet that was the cause.

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QueenB yea!!! So excited for you! Jan 2ww needed to start seeing some positives!! Let's keep this ball rolling! I'm 4dpo..... Time goes so slow. I've been having cramping so I'm wondering if the clomid may have caused a cyst on my left ovary(that's the side that hurts). Or maybe it's just the egg working its way down:)

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This cycle I started feeling cramping right away! I swear at one point it felt like the egg was working its way down! But like I said before I don't want people thinking I am craaaazy!
I know clomid can make you cramp all cycle long also:) FX the cramping is a good sign for you also!!


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Hurray!!!!!!! Congrats QueenB!!!


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YAY QUEENB! Congrats! That is amazing, cheers☆☆☆
Keep us posted!

Yes Xx I did take a hpt 2 days ago (10 dpo) it was negative of course. The cramps do feel period-esque but I'm sure they're on track with the 'normal' process.
I'm now 12 dpo today. Had some mild lower back cramping last night. Even though every pregnancy is different, the way I knew I was pregnant with DS2 was at roughly 14 dpo my nipples were SO painful. I don't have anything like that so far. I suppose it's all so hard to tell because the early pregnant/not pregnant symptoms can be so similar.
I'll be testing on Friday and let you all know for sure.

Good luck to the few of us still waiting to test this month !

Good luck to the Feb 2ww group! I may see you there!

Congrats again to you Queenb!

EJ, I hope the cramping is a good sign for you. You're not out yet.

Queen, so happy to see a BFP for you! I hope this is your daughter. Yup, I'm only doing SI. I do take antihistamines and sudafed daily for allergies though...I think I've been on them so long at this point that my body has mostly adjusted. I still get EWCM on them. I'm being very strict with the diet and IF and am still losing weight I think.

XX, what are those hearts on your chart? I do agree we have a connection! Our temps are often very similar, too. So you has just one positive OPK 2 days ago? What brand OPK are you using? I think 115 is perfectly fine for 5'4" provided you don't have a stocky/muscular build. I am taller but I look almost plump at 115. I'm skinny fat though, with seriously no muscle. What's your build/bone structure/muscularity like?

I think I will get my first High today, just waiting until the CBAD holder lets me test. My cheap OPK is alot darker today and I have EWCM. So I should O around CD17. FX. That's normal timing for me so either the SI counteracted the Vitex or neither did anything.

[QUOTE=maidentomother;676042]EJ, I hope the cramping is a good sign for you. You're not out yet.

Queen, so happy to see a BFP for you! I hope this is your daughter. Yup, I'm only doing SI. I do take antihistamines and sudafed daily for allergies though...I think I've been on them so long at this point that my body has mostly adjusted. I still get EWCM on them. I'm being very strict with the diet and IF and am still losing weight I think.

XX, what are those hearts on your chart? I do agree we have a connection! Our temps are often very similar, too. So you has just one positive OPK 2 days ago? What brand OPK are you using? I think 115 is perfectly fine for 5'4" provided you don't have a stocky/muscular build. I am taller but I look almost plump at 115. I'm skinny fat though, with seriously no muscle. What's your build/bone structure/muscularity like?

The hearts are when we BD. We were naughty and BD two days in a row 😉. I thought I would O later and we were safe. Who knows though! I doubt I'll get a BFP anyway. That is why I was
Pi$$ed when I got my positive opk so early.

I use wondfo and confirm with a CBD. I normally have a 2 day surge, but my urine was more dilute the day before my positive opk.

I used to be muscular, but I am now VERY lean since swaying. I look fit but very lean. I have a very small bone structure/frame.


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Originally Posted by QueenB3blue

This cycle I started feeling cramping right away! I swear at one point it felt like the egg was working its way down! But like I said before I don't want people thinking I am craaaazy!
I know clomid can make you cramp all cycle long also:) FX the cramping is a good sign for you also!!


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I wouldn't say you are craaazy:) I feel the same way, but I'm only 4dpo.... Time will tell!

Congrats to you QueenB3blue!!!!! 😃🎉🎈


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Congrats, Queen!!!

Maiden - lol at the cat! I've never heard of that happening. Yeah, at first glance my charts look good, but why am I not pregnant yet? I've tried the mucous tablets. They don't seem to do anything! I've tried PreSeed. No bfp. Maybe I just need to be patient, but I'd like a checkup. Maybe it's dh and I can blame him? lol Another oddity (tmi warning), af has been very heavy and clotty/mucous-like, but then it's suddenly over. Like I was bleeding very heavy yesterday with clots, and today af is almost done, just smudges.

Thanks for all the encouragement, Junie and Sunybuny and Queen. This is a new dr and I'm a little nervous. I chose her because NaPro looks at charts and tries to find root causes. I don't want to be put on clomid and sway girl, lol!

FX for you Emilee!

Essnce, your chart looks nice!

Sage, I do think NaPro is great; I really like that they use bioidentical hormones. So if something is wrong, I think you'll be in good hands. I would absolutely have yoir DH do a SA, ASAP! How long did it take to conceive your daughter?

As far as the cat, I have never heard of anyone syncing to theirs. I assume it is really rare. I was just annoyed I synced to her not vice versa! I guess my pheromones are very weak?

XX, ahh that makes sense. It js strange you haven't had more of a temp rise yet. Do you think it was a false positive OPK? Did you have almkst positives before and after or was it a one off out of the blue? If the latter, maybe your urine was super concentrated? You don't normally O quite this early, right?

115 sounds great for you then, based on your body type.

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XX, ahh that makes sense. It js strange you haven't had more of a temp rise yet. Do you think it was a false positive OPK? Did you have almkst positives before and after or was it a one off out of the blue? If the latter, maybe your urine was super concentrated? You don't normally O quite this early, right?

115 sounds great for you then, based on your body type.

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I started testing on CD8, like I normally do, and I got blaring negatives on CD8, 9, and 10. I was shocked when I got a positive in CD11 on a wondfo and a CBD. On CD12 they were both clearly negative. I used to O on CD11-14 and have a 12-15 day LP before I had kids. I think my body is starting to go back to that because my last cycle was 26 days. I always had a 24-28 day cycle, with 26 being what I had the most, before having kids. I think the acupuncture is working!



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WooHoo QueenB! So incredibly excited for you! I hope this is your sticky pink bean! Congrats!