Short luteal phase

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Originally Posted by Tree

Meeks I'm sorry about temps staying the same. But isn't the fact you've still not got AF a good sign? I remember you saying you had pos tests but really faint, could they have have been evaps? I don't understand too much about how clomid works but I hope that if it turns out this isn't the month that next one is!

Mrsblakley glad to hear your tests continue to get darker. I think everything is absolutely fine. Enjoy the days you don't feel ill, you'll wish you had when/if the real morning sickness kicks in. How many dpo are you now?

Haven't had any more blood since yesterday morning, just a little brown discharge this morning... Hoping everything is alright. I have such a terrible cold that I'm sure the constant coughing is pushing stuff out (the blood and discharge). My temps remain silly high with this low grade fever so can't read anything into that. Took another test this morning and the line is even stronger! Really just need to shake this silly silly cold now. It's boring!!

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Tree that test is definitely darker than the last, I think you can relax and know its just the cold. Keep up the multivitamins now and get some ginger and lemon with hot water and honey in there to boost your immune system. Now is the time for a nutrient boost!

MRS Blakely I agree with Tree, I think its all fine for you too.

Tree that test is so dark, I am 11dpo today and neg, so I can't imagine waking up in two days time with an instantly dark test like that.

Yes I agree the 9dpo could have been an evap, but I had faint pos's on 7 and 8 too... unless it was a bad batch that have easy evaps... *clutches at straws* ;-)

On the upside the frers have all been neg. So *if* this temp drop was implantation, since af hasn't arrived, I guess I *could* get a plus in a day or two. But oddly I had so many preg symptoms from 7-10 dpo and not so many today. Feel very hot though.

OMG Brainwave... CD 10 was the morning we woke up to the new time change, because of daylight saving! Could my temps be wrong because of that for CD 10 and 11??? We wound our clocks backwards 1hr at night when we went to bed on my cd9, so the next morning I usually temp at 6.30, but 6.30 was now 5.30. Meaning I temp'd at 6.30 the new time, which was 7.30 on the old time, or an hour later than usual. I certainly had a bad sleep the past two nights and my body clock is totally out.

This is what FF says about it:

The effect of Daylight Saving Time (DST) on your temperature is usually limited to the day of the change because you adjust quite quickly. In addition, the exact effect depends strongly on your own metabolism. Some people will see no effect at all while others will see a slight change (increase or decrease). Because in general having one temperature slightly off will not change your chart interpretation, Fertility Friend's recommendation is to record your temperature as usual without correcting it in any manner. We recommend that you keep taking the temp at the same time. If you took it at 6 in the morning before the change, then take it at 6 in the morning after the change.

None of that would explain the random + test on cd 9 then neg cd 10 and 11 though. Clutching at straws maybe.

Meeks I really think there is still a chance!! The times changing, the fact frer never showed anything, the fact AF has arrived. AF not forgetting just having that feeling.

Will regard to darkness of test don't forget that implantation does not occur at the same time for everyone past ovulation. I got my first positive at 8dpo which is super early, much earlier than I've had before!! And then you constantly hear stories about women who don't get positives on the tests until like 6 weeks and stuff.

Your temps haves plummeted and AF has not arrived. That sounds positive to me!

As for me, I feel so rotten I can't really focus too much on what's going on. I worry about high temps (even though low grade fever is apparently fine) and the pressure of coughing!! Still I think I've managed to get myself a 6pack from the constant coughing - silver lining. :-) Need to get to 6 weeks and book in a scan. Until I see a little heartbeat I won't be able to properly properly believe it.

Meeks - I agree with Tree. The fact you haven't got AF yet is still a really good sign. And YES, daylight savings can mess stuff up. It totally messed all my temps up for a good maybe 3-4 days when we switched our clocks here a few weeks ago. My FF shows all those temps in white dots because it obviously thinks they aren't accurate. I would still try and think positively because there is a chance. Regardless.. it's good that your having this decent of an LP on Clomid! And just a side note - have you ever considered trying Lunaception? I'm not sure if I already told you this or not but I believe that is seriously what changed my O time as I never O before CD20 and this month it was CD17(or super super early CD18). I had read a few people on here do it and I knew I could use any supps being that I was seeing the RE soon so I just figured I'd try it out. When I looked at the moon calender I noticed that the previous month I had O'd on the full moon (and coincidentally we had kept ouR blinds open all month that cycle). So this past cycle I made our room complete darkness from CD1-13, then slept with a nightlight from CD13-17 and 18-now in darkness. I O'd on the last day the light was on and the second we turned on the lights I could feel my body getting ready. I am the last person on earth to believe in anything moon related so it's funny that of course I'm not suggesting it!!! But what I realized from before is that we were so all over the place with having light in our room. Sometimes we keep our blinds open, other nights our door would stay open which lets in light from a front window, some nights were dark.. so I started wondering if it was really throwing my body off. The full moon was March 27th-28th this month so I honestly think I would have O'd cd22 this month if we hadn't of done it. Anyways, just thought I'd tell you what I think worked for me!

Tree - that's a great BFP so I wouldn't worry. I also feel so sick and this cold won't go away. I think the lowered immune system certainly isn't helping recovery! I like you am going to try and get an early ultrasound because there's no way I can wait. I just want to make sure when I got that there is a guarenteed heartbeat (unless things aren't okay) because I'd hate to go too early and them say it might be to early to see a heartbeat so then I'm left wondering! I'm already so scared as it is.. can't deal with anything more! But, I need to see this is actually real before I'll believe it!!

I know the feeling of not trusting it until you see a heartbeat. Have you had any more bleeding? Tests still look good for you i'm so sure it will be fine.

I'm nowhere near as thirsty, my skin is better and the nausea has stopped. Not looking good. I have had very odd cramps today, not af ones like yesterday, and still no blood but I wont class af as late until cd14 as 13 days is the longest I ever had. 12 is normal for my soy iso cycles so if I get to 14 its a win for clomid and my luteal at least. Although that doesn't feel like a win without a BFP.

How are your symptoms going?

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Originally Posted by meeks32

I know the feeling of not trusting it until you see a heartbeat. Have you had any more bleeding? Tests still look good for you i'm so sure it will be fine.

I'm nowhere near as thirsty, my skin is better and the nausea has stopped. Not looking good. I have had very odd cramps today, not af ones like yesterday, and still no blood but I wont class af as late until cd14 as 13 days is the longest I ever had. 12 is normal for my soy iso cycles so if I get to 14 its a win for clomid and my luteal at least. Although that doesn't feel like a win without a BFP.

How are your symptoms going?

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So what dpo are you now?

Symptons wise I really wouldn't worry this early. The hormone effect can only be so small, particularly if tests aren't showing positive yet. I thought morning sickness had started early for me but it turned out to be this nasty cold. So perhaps you started to get a cold but were able to fight it.

I've not had anymore bleeding as such but did manage to find a little bit of brown discharge.

I'm kinda feeling if it is a mc it will be a missed one. It seems strange to have a little bit of dark blood and then for it to stop so I'm hoping it was either implantation or breakthrough bleeding and everything is fine. I guess when you've mc'd before you look at things a little differently. And being unwell too certainly hasn't helped the nerves, though it has kept me occupied I guess.

All I can do it keep my fingers crossed that I'm growing a healthy little person, and that my body will be healthy too in protecting both of us. :-)

Today's temp makes me realise its over but after a big calm down last night I have collected myself and you are right, longer LP is the first goal. Easing up on LE will make this next month emotionally easier for me, I felt clomid made me a raging bitch and LE was already doing that so it was much worse.

So now I have more temp data and I checked the bfp I got on the ic on cd9 afternoon, I can see it was definitely a positive, not evap, and all my symptoms started disappearing as my temp began to drop cd10 onwards, so it was just unfortunate I tested early and saw another chemical. This one would have been missed if I waited to cd12 to test.

Thinking 5-9 for clomid this next cycle. Thinking I'll stick on 50mg as prescribed but since I only have two more cycles on it until he checks dh's sperm and does a HCG on me, I want to make the most of it hence easing up on LE. Basically I want to get pg ASAP but without swaying blue too hard. After over a year TTC is getting old.

Like Atomic said to me before, easing off not dropping everything.

I've seen a few women have boys on clomid, and I'm not even sure if it sways as magically as some people think, so I want to keep some form of LE in there (no snacking, no gaining weight, ease off etc).

Expect af today. Tests still neg.

Well you sound very clear about your situation and I'm glad you have a plan. I'm sorry though then if this isn't your month and about having another chemical. I hope you are ok!!?

As for easing up on diet that sounds like a good idea. Only you can know how things effect you and what feels right. Personally I think it's amazing how our perspective on things change, here we are all wanting girls but realising, and rightly so that healthy babies really are all that matter!

As much as we sway and dream lets not forget that! :-)

Mrsblakely how are you getting on? Hoping your nerves decrease as time passes. I definitely don't think you have any need to worry about your LP effecting the pregnancy now!!

Over here my fever, I think, is finally gone. My temperature is back in the 36's as apposed to the 37's and 38's and I feel so much better! I'm 14 dpo and still obsessing over the bleeding. Was it too much to be implantation? Does the fact it happened after BFP mean something? Was it from the strain of coughing so violently? Was it breakthrough bleeding?? And so the questions continue to circulate round my head... It's the middle of the night here but in the morning I will test again and continue my regular pant watch routine..!

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Getting darker...

Not feeling so unwell and think/hope my temperature is stabilising.

Still nervous about bleeding, still getting bits of brown discharge. Very little but even so, I'd rather it wasn't there. I have no idea if its left over from the other day or what's going on.

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Originally Posted by meeks32

Today's temp makes me realise its over but after a big calm down last night I have collected myself and you are right, longer LP is the first goal. Easing up on LE will make this next month emotionally easier for me, I felt clomid made me a raging bitch and LE was already doing that so it was much worse.

So now I have more temp data and I checked the bfp I got on the ic on cd9 afternoon, I can see it was definitely a positive, not evap, and all my symptoms started disappearing as my temp began to drop cd10 onwards, so it was just unfortunate I tested early and saw another chemical. This one would have been missed if I waited to cd12 to test.

Thinking 5-9 for clomid this next cycle. Thinking I'll stick on 50mg as prescribed but since I only have two more cycles on it until he checks dh's sperm and does a HCG on me, I want to make the most of it hence easing up on LE. Basically I want to get pg ASAP but without swaying blue too hard. After over a year TTC is getting old.

Like Atomic said to me before, easing off not dropping everything.

I've seen a few women have boys on clomid, and I'm not even sure if it sways as magically as some people think, so I want to keep some form of LE in there (no snacking, no gaining weight, ease off etc).

Expect af today. Tests still neg.

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Glad you have plan for next month, and lots of hugs, hon, for this month. You are probably right that easing up on the LE diet will help. I don't think that is actually swaying blue, as long as you aren't improving your condition drastically.

I know just how you feel, Meeks, about not telling your mom about your diet. My mom is also into nutrition big-time and she would lecture me to no end about optimal health. She already tells me to eat more protein and I just say okay and then ignore her advice. But it's not that unhealthy to be a vegetarian; maybe you could tell her you are trying that out? If you want to stay veg, that is... Maybe you do need a break from it. Like tree says, you know your body best. :)

Do you know if DHA is allowed with clomid? That might help you stay even-keeled and get healthier without going the whole way back to a normal diet. It helps with mood and brain, it does a whole bunch of good things that I don't remember now (shouldn't have ignored my mom, haha) and has no possible bad effects at all if you get the purified form (regular fish oil can have contaminants). I know that is the first thing I will take when I get my bfp, and maybe even one of the first I'll add back in if I need to loosen my sway. Your body needs some fat to make everything work, and I'm not convinced that the type of fat even sways at all, so why not use the best...

So glad your LP has lengthened, at least. Go, Clomid! I forget, do you normally get spotting before your AF starts? I normally get 3-5 days of spotting before AF, and I always feel like the start of spotting is the true end of my LP. I can sense a definite hormone shift -- skin clears, cm dries up, etc.