I love when we cheer ladies on for their attempts! Can you imagine if this was a group of guys? Haha
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So sorry mummy ☹️
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ABC- yes, it does seem that we have been on the same path and im so thankful that i have found someone to ask these questions to. I dont know anyone else on this path. ABC- yes, it does seem that we have been on the same path and im so thankful that i have found someone to ask these questions to. I dont know anyone else on this path. Its sucks we are on this path and I'd never wish it on anyone, but glad i found you. People helping you decide on d&c or not, helped me decide d&c immediately.
No mention of any ultrasounds. I've thankfully always had small enough cysts and they go away, just bothersome for several days.
Ive been getting all the bills in from the miscarriage and thankfully i have fairly (but expensive) insurance. So far im totally $25k, but my portion only about $2k. Most of that 2k has come from incentive programs that i earned, but our insurance year starts in july so lots of expenses next pregnancy.
Pbn3 & mummy- thx, waiting, waiting .... hopefully AF will show here in the next couple weeks. DH didnt even want to dtd at all, too tired from work. I was frustrated since its been about a month.
Kitten- thx, so many of us here waiting on rainbows.
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Thx u Pbn, i hope i will get full positive tomorrow, we will do attempt tomorrow pm. This cycle is strange i dont have any ewcm, i feel very dry:(and mostly i feel crampy and now nothing...
Thx u Girlsway, how do u feel? I really pray this is my lucky month:luck::pray:
Sorry to hear so mummy:HH:
I'm sorry mummy2boys [emoji17] everything was looking so good too! Big hugs xo All you can do is keep on keeping on [emoji173]
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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
It's hilarious right?!!! I get genuinely excited for everyone come attempt/s time! I once said to skyblue I was so excited when it came time for her attempts to start that I was *mentally* doing a cheerleading number outside her bedroom door [emoji23] was funny at the time but now that I've written that it seems kinda creepy and stalker'ish [emoji102][emoji50][emoji23]
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Good luck noemi! Different is good!
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Good luck Noemi!
Sorry mummy wishing you all the best for next cycle xx
I’m good Noemi just got back from Lanzarote was a nice break! :)
Sorry mummy :( xx
Good luck Noemi.
Mummy2 hope next months a sticky for u x
Sorry Mummy :( :( I was really thinking you were going to get a BFP.
Good luck Noemi!
Kitten - yea I'm in the same boat, except I still don't even know if I did actually ovulate. I think the odds are pretty low for both of us!
Gafan - You had a bit of a dip today - Possibly implantation dip? Would def be the right time for that at 7 dpo!
HGMama - Ugh yea I haven't gotten any of our medical bills yet but I know they are coming. With my doctors appointments, D&C, and all this testing they've been doing, it's all going to add up. Thankfully we maxed out our health savings account this year thinking we were probably going to have to be having a baby! Instead we'll be using that to pay for miscarriage and recurrent pregnancy loss testing :(
I've been pretty depressed the past few days. Struggling a lot on the diet - I'm just so over ALL of this - swaying, TTC-ing, BFPs, losing babies. I think multiple times a day about just giving it all up. I'm just so freaking tired (physically and mentally). I don't know.
Oh ABC I don't blame you for feeling that way you have been through so much surely all that heartache is leading you to your beautiful rainbow baby xxx
And yes I think my chances are slim too which I'm grateful for because not only do I want some more time on diet but I just cannot have another December/ Christmas baby! I already have two lol!
Checking in ladies!
Mummy I’m so sorry, what a shame. I wish this were not so.
Noemi wishing you all the luck in the world! Go catch that egg
ABC thinking of you. Try to sneak in some extra sleep & time for you. It’s really helped me a lot the last few days.
Everyone enjoy your weekends.
Pbn that is hilarious. I would be picturing you outside the door [emoji6] Pom poms in hand
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ABC I feel exactly the same. I'm so fed up of it all. I feel in limbo too because I need an operation due to having a mild prolapse but can't have it till I've finished babies so I'm putting it off and that makes me miserable too as I can't run, jump etc without feeling very uncomfortable. It's rubbish. I'm not ready to stop trying yet but it feels like it's not going to happen. I want to be able to relax about it all, stop temping/opks/ supplements etc and just chill out but my obsessiveness won't let me!
Is it worth you having a bit of a break? Coming off the diet and giving yourself a bit of time? You've had such a tough few months. I'd do this but my age doesn't give me that option, feel like if it doesn't happen soon then it's not going to.
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Emshe it's so good to hear from you! I was already missing you [emoji173] please come back if you change your mind about trying this cycle, even if its a ntnp one! I see you're still temping (I will not delete your chart link just yet for stalking purposes [emoji6]) so I'm crossing everything that maybe you'll just kick back, bd every few days and just see what happens (temping still of course [emoji12])
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Kittendreams do you temp? A 4-o is pretty darn low odds but if you and dh are pretty fertile then there still is a chance! I see you'd rather have a bit longer swaying first though so I'm torn between hoping the oopsie results in a bfp (they often result in desired gender) and a bfn so you feel good about feeling you gave your best. At the end of the day, what will be will be and it will be meant to be [emoji173]
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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Abc and mummy2boys I want to comment on your situations (feeling wise) but don't want to do it on the fly as such... so I'm going to mull over it abit and come back soon. So much love to you both [emoji173][emoji173][emoji173]
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Thanks pbn, I miss this too as much as I try to stay away, & you must have read my mind, I’ve been mulling over the idea of ntnp.
I’ll be temping, but I’m kinda enjoying a break, didn’t take clomid either. I’ll be actively back in June probably if you’re sticking around!?
Must admit I’ve been very much in the same headspace as ABC & mummy.
Life is passing by so quickly, & it’s so appealing to just LIVE but then I read something along the lines of “never give up on something you can’t go a day without dreaming about”
TORN.
Thinking of you all...
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Gosh emshe, those are such strong words...
So I just want to say to yourself, mummy, Abc and even noemi that I really do understand the conflicting feelings. It's terribly draining both mentally and physically. I twice got to a point that I felt ok moving on with life. The first time, I got pregnant the cycle I said I was not trying anymore following it (and by this time I'd been just ttc and not swaying for 4/5 months or so and one loss) I ended up losing that pregnancy too and it was by far my worst loss and the one that resulted in my depression pretty much exploding. However it bought back all those feelings I'd thought I had moved on from and if anything the desire be pregnant again was stronger than it had ever been. But I did say to myself it would be 3 strikes and you're out, I would accept it wasn't going to happen if I lost a 3rd pregnancy. And then I did. And then I still couldn't kick that itch.... So I gave myself, and promised my husband, just 3 more cycles trying and I would 100% accept it wasn't to be. For me there HAD to be an end in sight and I honestly believe I'd come to that point, finally!! So we didn't get pregnant during those 3 cycles (again I'm talking about ttc only so very, very conception friendly attempts) and by that 3rd cycle I found I had already mentally moved on. I felt a distinct shift in my mental health on the matter. I was excited about being just a family of 4, excited at the thought of returning to work casual hours, excited to be in a head space that didn't involve ttc. I literally felt lighter and more free than I had in the last couple years. I had zero regret throwing out my thermometer, giving away my last clomid cycle, uninstalling ff etc etc. It's so hard to describe the relief at getting af that last cycle trying and knowing that I was no longer beholden to it. I felt almost euphoric! I began feeling so much more closer to my boys in the days after, not that I'd neglected them during my journey, but I felt I'd wasted so much brain thought and emotion time on it that could've gone to them??? I think you'll understand what I mean... anyway I honestly believe you will get to THAT point when you can accept it's time to move on but it's different for everyone. Try and not put an exact time limit on it. I did but I'd done it then shifted it more than once [emoji23] Try and be a little flexible? Just accept that when you're ready to give up you will know you are! Trust me, there will be no doubts, you will feel it and be 100% sure and if there's any doubt then you're not [emoji173] I honestly believe there is something to NTNP, big time, especially when you're experiencing unexplained infertility or multiple losses. So even if you want to give up actively ttc, maybe give yourself the flexibility of NTNP. I feel so strongly about this because I want soooo much for you ladies to experience your rainbow babies. I would go through my journey all over again if it meant you all could. I sometimes feel guilty about hanging around because I'm so bloody freaking unbelievably happy I had an oopsie I never even considered an oopsie that resulted in my rainbow baby and I thank the universe for her every day [emoji22]
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After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Great u enjoyed holiday:flowerz:
Thx u all girls here for wish me good luck with attempt today. My opk today:Attachment 39357
Much love & appreciation to you Pbn. I am so happy you got your girl, your dream after going through so much, truly deserved happiness.
I get it & I kind of feel I’m nearly there.
It’s the routine of it that keeps me going in someways as well as the dream. I often ask what do I do if I’m not doing this!?
Little things I’ve been doing the last couple of days/weeks have made me go huh that’s cool-
*lightening up a bit on diet & managing it within limits to alleviate guilt. icecream one night, but shocked last night to fit s’mores on the fire (camping style in the backyard) as well as some cheese twisties all in. massive thanks to US ladies for the amazing concept of s’mores. Wow!
*chasing sunrises & generally noticing beauty in nature
*cuddling our puppies- gees they’re ratbags but they are fine cute & funny little things
*getting my boys to tag along on my exercise. They ride I walk, it’s good seeing them hit the pavement too
Don’t know whether it will help anyone but I’m trying to find simple things to distract me & make the days brighter, I hope you all can too
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ABC, it makes sense to me that you feel that way. You have been through a lot! A nap and some treats might help you feel a bit better. Hugs.
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Mummy2, what a complicated and frustrating situation! I am sorry to hear you can't run or jump without pain. It sounds like you have been swaying diligently for a long time and feel so much pressure. I wonder if a few extra treats might help you too? I understand feeling the time crunch (I feel that too) and the obsessive part... that makes it difficult to take a full break. I wonder if a few extra treats (food, movie, massage, whatever you like) might help shift away from obsessive a little and help that way?
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This week I had a stressful dream that I woke up at noon and it was too late to temp. Lol!
Think I should wait until Tuesday to test with wondfo pregnancy tests?
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Gafan if you have quite a few tests then I'd probably start monday [emoji12]
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Hope Tuesday brings you a big fat positive gafan
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Thanks ladies. I think the biggest issue right now is I'm physically very drained. I've been really tired again the past couple of days - yesterday I could barely function. I'm also a lot hungrier lately so trying to keep to the diet (and not snack) is making me miserable, and I'm not sticking to it as well as I was. And because I'm so tired, exercise is hard. I think just being so physically run down right now is affecting my mental state as far as swaying/TTC. So by the end of each day I feel pretty depressed. Kinda feel like I'm getting further and further away from the dream of a daughter instead of closer to it.
Pbn I've thought a lot about your story over the past month or so and how you had really found peace and were content to stop TTC. I don't feel like I'm at that point yet, but the fed up side up me keeps finding all these logical arguments why it would be better for me and my family if we did stop. But like emshe said I've dreamt of a daughter for so long and worked SO hard the past year, it feels almost impossible to just give that all up. I don't know. DH still really wants a 3rd too, which I know, in reading a lot of the situations of ladies on here, I'm really lucky in that he isn't pressuring me to stop and that he's still enthusiastic about having another. He really wants a daughter too, although he'd be less disappointed than me if we had another boy.
Pbn - I know we're all SO thankful for you and that you stick around to support and cheer us on!!! Your story is one that still gives me hope. I hope we can all have such happy endings to this crazy TTC journey.
Had a big temp jump today so looks like I ovulated. FF says I ovulated on Wednesday - which would make my attempt 5-O. So probably SUPER low odds right? Does anyone know if going to bed with damp/wet hair can mess with BBT? I did that most days last week and I'm wondering if that's why my temps were low, especially on Thursday and Friday when I should have had post-ovulation temps. But given how very low they were on Tuesday and Wednesday I'm guessing FF is probably right about O day being on Wednesday.
Emshe - Smores are amazing :) I refuse to go camping unless it involves smores!!! :) :)
Mummy - I think we talked about this before but I have prolapse too :( Mine doesn't really affect my physical activity but it does often bother me. Are you going to try again this cycle?
Gafan FX for a BFP!!!
Kitten - Yea you must be pretty busy around the holidays with Christmas and two birthdays!! Going to be sort of an interesting next week for both of us seeing if we somehow ended up beating the low odds LOL!
Oh thank you Pbn I know what you mean- I secretly would love an oopsie (especially if it was my dg) to take the pressure off but I really do not want another Christmas/December/holiday baby ( I have two already lol) and I have clomid to use for swaying ( which I obviously didn't uses this month as this was unplanned) so I really want to wait 1-2 more months to get the best sway in possible.
I'm torn too! I do really want to be pregnant so whatever will be will be and that's a nice way to feel I think xx
Yes I do temp and use ff so I'll have to work out how to link it here.
How is your beautiful family?
ABC I'm thinking of you and sending lots of positive vibes your way- I get the feeling of not being ready to let go... I haven't been ttc but I have been swaying in some form for nearly 3 years ( since my ds1 was born) and had an opposite in that time (ds2) which has at times really affected my mental and physical state and made me question why am I doing all of this? But my Dh is on board like yours and he keeps me going when I want to throw it all in.
I really pray we all get our dg and peace so we can live our lives free from this burden of feeling like something is missing xx
[emoji1374] we can all fill the missing link kitten, wishing you pink dust
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Ladies I'll be MIA today as visiting with family but will catch up tonight [emoji173] hope you're all having a fab day/night!
DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
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DS 2012 [emoji170] DS 2014 [emoji170]
After 3 losses had DD 2018 [emoji178]
Hope you had a lovely day with the family Pbn, bet they were all smitten with your beautiful girl
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Oh my goodness! I've missed so much. Sorry I was absent we were traveling, then had nine people visiting, and then we are gearing up to move 4,000 miles NEXT WEEK so it's been really really really really really busy! I am so encouraged by all these BFPs!!!! I AM SO EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS!!!!!
I'm 6 dpo. So I'm trying to hold out until at least Friday. This cycle we threw timing out the window and just went with it. With all the other stress I couldn't hang with the stress of swaying and timing and all that. I just couldn't, so we just went with it. I'm still doing the diet and exercise, but ignored timing. We just want a healthy babe more than anything- a girl would be a bonus;)
Can't wait to hear about others about to test!
Here is my chart, for you pbn, I know you love a chart ;)
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