Thanks OOTB, but looks like AF is here. Saddened and heartbroken, but I will get over it. I have for over a year and a half, and you would think I would be used to it by now LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Out of the Blue
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Thanks OOTB, but looks like AF is here. Saddened and heartbroken, but I will get over it. I have for over a year and a half, and you would think I would be used to it by now LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Out of the Blue
That's definitely a long time to be swaying. I think your plan sounds great. I've only been swaying since last May (and was pregnant for 3 months before my m/c), but even I'm planning to drop the rephresh if I don't get my BFP this cycle. I know what you mean about making 2 dinners every night. I'm a SAHM, but I still find it overwhelming at times. It was such a relief after I got my last BFP to be able to start making only one meal a night again!
Sorry KD that you are feeling so discouraged. It is really hard to do on top of all the other things in life. I find that I eat the same things everyday which is really boring but at least less stressful. Good luck and kup!
ootb-i hope it is implantation spotting and not af, if not, 2012 will be here soon and I'll be there with you! What day post O are you?
How about you Aurora and mocha?
I agree! MY stand-by is pasta with sauteed veggies and parmesan. I find it tasty and filling, and I can have it on my plate in 10-15 minutes. Sometimes I like to think outside the box and come up with more original ideas, but honestly, I often eat that same dinner about 4-5 times a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by amari
I'm doing alright - I'm 2dpo now, and have TONS of creamy cm, which I suppose could be taken as a good sign (though I'm fairly sure I've had this on BFN cycles too). I'm REALLY sick of being here at the in-laws and am about ready to kill my MIL, who seems to disapprove of EVERYTHING either my kids or I do. I'm so thankful we live across the country from them as I think I WOULD kill her if I had to see her more than 2-3 times a year. A week is a LONG time to be here - I'm counting the minutes until we can go home.
Hi girls... Jumping in here! Now thinking I should have been like Amari and aborted out attempt this month :( I am now 1dpo and way went over calories last night- yes the night I ovulated!! Although think I ovulated during the day, we DTD during the morning. I had only started the LE diet about 2 weeks ago when joining on here- I had lost about 2kgs in that time (am slim anyway so prob can't lose too much more). Prior to this I had been on Ingender and just doing the high calc, mag and low sodium, pottas. Have been doing that for prob 3 months now. I spose I have sort of been doing both in the last few weeks. I checked my PH throughout yest and today and still very low so am happy with that part (prior to me swaying my Ph was very high so prob was when we had boys). I am also on supps- calc, mag, virtex, cranberry and started taking saw palmetto leading up to O. Hubby also abstained for 10 or so days (complete opposite to what we did with boys). So only DTD morning of O. Used represh 3 days before O and half a tube day before O. Used sylk when bding. I had a vinegar douche also but decided against it at the last minute because our last 2 attempts haven't worked so starting to drop things off to increase chances of pregnancy. We were trying cut off and have been getting closer to O with only one attempt. I am just hoping that IF this has worked this time then my diet and Ph is sooo different to when I got pg with my boys then maybe everything will be okay. Oh also have been drinking a heap load of pepp tea and caff free diet coke. Ahhhhhh... anyway just had to vent that and hope I haven't stuffed it all up :(
Oh was also a new moon too :)
Everyone else so dedicated! Keep it up and fingers crossed for some bfps- and pink ones at that!!
sally I wouldn't worry about it especially if on the whole you're losing weight
1dpo here too
quite a lot of us pink swayers have OVed around the new moon this cycle haven't we?
KD I know just what you mean. I believe God is in control no matter what, so we are limited on our influence on the situation. I do though also believe he wants to see our dedication to a dream at times before answering our prayers. In my mind thats how I see this whole thing i guess, like sometimes we are given the tools by him to make our own dreams come true, we just have to be willing to put in the work for it to come to pass. We cant control what kind of baby he ultimately blesses us with, but we can control our biology with the intelligence and tools he has given us and so I dont see the harm personally since all things come thru him anyhow. So this diet and supplements, all this trying to catch lightening in a bottle we are doing... it is just us putting in our half of the work to make our dreams come true. I believe we serve a forgiving, loving and just God and I know he values each one of us and hears our prayers, and doesnt punish us or hold a grudge. Id just suggest you pray about it and ask God to guide your path and if you believe that means just DTD and let the rest go, welp so be it!! I pray you will find the clarity of mind you are looking for (along with a BFP! :wink: )Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
I am 4 dpo now, so woohoo new moon!! praying thats a mighty powerful moon, because I sure did fall off the wagon with my diet just when it started to matter :( /sigh we did at least get the cutoff right, so thats positive at least!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
my ph is ridiculously high now though and I cant get it down... suggestions on a fix? or should i bother?
at 4dpo I wouldn't worry about it - the conception will have already happened!
yeah i suppose so, for better or worse! lol... this was just my very first cycle since i had my mirena removed so while i would be THRILLED to have a BFP waiting for me on the 7th, I would kinda like another try at this swaying pink thing too... only time shall tell!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
~~~~pink baby dust~~~~ to us all then :) would be a great start to 2012!
so how many attempts did we all get in?
DH released and discarded at O-3, we BDed at O-2 in the early hours of the morning, DH released and discarded in the morning of O-1 and then we BDed again in the evening after DS went to bed, and then yesterday about 24hrs after our previous attempt. CM had gone creamy then, so I think that attempt was probably an O+12-ish attempt.
so 3 attempts (plus 2 release+discards) within 72hrs. Poor DH said he felt quite sore after all that!
We had attempts on O-5,4,3,2 and 1. I wish we'd also gotten an attempt in on O-day, but DH was getting tired and grumpy about the whole thing, so I didn't push it. I'm 3dpo now - got my crosshairs today! Pink baby dust to all of us!
I got in 3 attempts at O-3, O-1 and on O.
I had planned O-2, O-1, and O but O snuck up on me so I missed O-2 but had an accidental attempt at O-3. I told DH I was a while away from O but it was ok if he released inside that one time.
The reason it snuck up on me is because I didn't O until CD21 last cycle and then this cycle I Oed on CD15 (which I am so grateful that this cycle was shorter).
I got in two attempts at what I thought was 3DBO and O day itself (Christmas)....
However, I usually get a pos OPK on CD12, and did not have a pos on CD12, though on CD12 I had EWCM (not a ton of it, but enough that I saw it stretched, sorry for TMI), things were still abundant but creamier on CD13 (when I usually O, which was on Sunday, Dec. 25th)...
BUT my temps are still pre-ovulatorary range, 97.6 to 97.2 :( So I have no idea what this means, is it even possible to O if temps do not spike above 98? My post ovulatory temps usually stay at mid to high 97s sometimes 98, so today the temp being 97.2 really depressed me :(
I am really new to temping, so does it go down after a few days? I had a funny feeling that I may have even O'ed early, since I had quite a bit of CM leading up to all last week, and on Friday night leading into Saturday I wanted to have sex so bad I could hardly sleep! What if I O'ed then instead? I wasn't temping consistently last week :( I kept getting awake and then remembering, and then deciding not to do it...I started faithfully temping again just the last two days to see if the O spike had occured....
I am so confused. I think I am out this month regardless, unless that attempt late on Weds night early Thurs might have been closer to O than I thought.
Grrr, this is so confusing, I know what I should have done...I should have consistently been temping and doing OPKs days before O to make sure, but I didn't, I just assumed I'd O on CD13 as I have been doing for months now, and I usually just take that one OPK on CD12 to confirm what I know will happen, but this cycle got totally screwy. I'm so bummed. I don't think there is a chance for pregnancy at all.
Then yesterday, DH and I were talking and he was kind of making fun of my weight (I weigh close to 200 lbs, heaviest I've ever been), and I just blurted otu, "why don't we just put TTC on hold for a while and let me try to lose some wieght?" He said "OK" really fast, and seemed really interested in the idea. I said we'd try again coming up in April, but now I regret being so rash with my words.
Sorry for the novel, but I feel totally miserable with how my attempts this month were pitful, and more frustrated that I never got a clear "hello you definitely O'ed" temp rise....
if I did O on Friday instead, would an OPK be negative the next day? It was two lines, but the test line was way lighter, so it was definitely a negative. Just curious...could drinking peppermint tea x2 a day make O come a lot sooner or can it delay O?
I want to say that I may not have O'ed yet, but all my feelings are dissapating. Like I'm not interested in sex anymore (always a sign O is near, LOL) and my CM is definitely remaining creamy, not watery or EWCM.
Any advice? suggestions before I blow up?
KD, sorry to hear about AF :( That is heartbreaking! What I would do if I were you would be to just to focus on diet 100%take baby asprin if you can, and leave out the rest of the stuff, drop the rephresh, drop all jels, etc, and just do the diet and frequent BD if you feel you need to. Also, I do believe in the moon theory, so you could check that out just to see if your next O will be in the new moon.
I used a retro due date calculator and looked at the dates, and my two boys were full moon babies, and of us 4 siblings, there was one outlier. My 2nd sister Christine was concieved in full moon, but us other 3 followed the moon theory, so it was 75% right for my Mom :) Haha! I don't believe the moon is fool-proof, I do believe it's about 70-80% right usually.
Question: I had a cycle a few months ago where my temps never rose and it seemed like I didn't O at all. I was tracking my temp that whole cycle really well, and nothing rose above 97.8, didn't get any 98s or anything. My period came as scheduled, was not even a smidgen late. I told my OB that I didn't think I ovulated that cycle because of no temp spike, and he said, 'if you got period', then you did ovulate, but he did not explain why my temps never rose.
I kind of asked the question in my earlier post, but can a woman really O without a visible noticeable difference in her temp? Can you have perfect 28 day cycles but not O?
I meant that we’d cheer you on regardless of AF coming or not! We’ll be here as long as it takes for you to get preggo, swaying or not…:HH: It sounds like you already eat a fairly good girl diet w/out swaying so that’s GREAT! I understand your frustration w/having to make 2 dinners while working. It’s hard enough to just be working and then have to come home and cook for everyone, let alone make another meal for yourself! If I were you, I may even considering dropping a few J&Ds too (if not dropping them altogether). This last time, I don’t think I even J&D once. Please try not to feel selfish for being heartbroken…You have every right to and it’s completely natural. This is my first attempt after my m/c and I’ve been crying since I tested on Christmas morning. I can’t help it and neither can you. Please take care of yourself and do some nice things for YOU. :hug2:Quote:
Originally Posted by KraizyDaizy
You're sweet. I have no idea what's going on w/me...Never had a cycle like this, preg or not. :( Thx for your sweet words, Amari.Quote:
Originally Posted by amari
I do the same thing...eat the same meals every day b/c I'm waaaay to tired/lazy to try other things and for the most part, I can feel satified w/what I eat (emphasis on "for the most part"!). If I'm really sick of what I'm eating, I go back to one of my previous "favorites" to rotate it a bit. It seems like my reoccuring meals are sauteed mushrooms/leeks/basmati rice/quark or goat cheese, air-popped popcorn, salads and frozen raspberry/rice milk/psyllium husk smoothies. That's almost all I have up my sleeve. DH gets home later than I eat (7ish) so I just make him something after I eat at 6:30. I have one kid who'll eat anything (YAY!) and the other who only eats cereal and yogurt (no joke - :( ) so sometimes I'm making 3-4 meals per night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
When are you coming home??? YAY for MIL's baaaad cooking but BOO for her attitude about you and the kids... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Hey, Sallygal! I think you have every shot in the world at getting a girl if you get a BFP from this last attempt! You’re already slim and I think your body probably recognized the changes going on, especially b/c you lost 2kgs!. Also, using Sylk/RepHresh is great! :agree: Hope you get your BFP this time!
DIB, a few days won’t ruin your sway…Don’t worry one bit! Just try to sit back and keep yourself busy in the 2ww…:flowerz:
Rainbow, Mocha, Jamie and Auroara – your attempts sound great!!! FX for you all!!! :cheer:
:HH: see my responses above...Quote:
Originally Posted by auroara78
I'm not ~sure~ but from what I've "heard", it's possible to not have O'd but still have nice cycles. I got my info from what someone said on a FertilityFriend forum so take it w/a grain of salt...Hoping someone can give you a definite answer here...Quote:
Originally Posted by auroara78
yeah it would be possible to have regular but anovulatory cycles, but it would be very unusual. If you have a perfect regular cycle you will almost certainly be OVing each time
however, it's possible to have slow-rising temps after OV
auroara - from what I've read, a distinct thermal shift (at least 3 days of elevated temperatures) is the only way to know that you've O'd. You can get +OPKs and not actually O.
This cycle I got a +OPK on the day after O. I ran out of OPKs at that point and so haven't taken any more. It's probably a good thing, because it was making me second guess all of the other signs my body was giving me that O had happened.
Oh, and to answer your question, OoTB, we leave Nova Scotia on Thursday morning, but the current plan is to drive straight from the airport on our arrival to my Mom's place, which is only about 2 hours away from there. It just didn't seem to make sense to drive back home an hour in the opposite direction from my Mom's, only to turn around in a day or two and drive all the way to visit her. A visit with my Mom, though, is the absolute opposite of my experience here. She is most in her element playing with my kids, and it gives me the only true 'break' I get from them. She's also my best friend, and she and I like to go shopping together once the kids are in bed for the night. I will be visiting my Dad in the hospital while I'm there, though, (he's still very sick - he's been there 8 weeks now), so there will be a bit of stress surrounding that trip.
Thanks ladies for your advice...I know I threw a ton of questions out there!
Jen, have you fully started bleeding yet, or is it just spotting still? I know you tested on Christmas Day and it was neg, but wasn't that only 10 dpo???
Mocha, I think your attempts were fab. I really feel good for you this month! Jaime, I said in a different post, but I feel really serene about your attempt and just have this feeling that this could be your time for a BFP!!
The way I was right before midnight beginning Christmas Eve, when I tried to convince DH to have a go at it (and he said no), I was feeling very very anxious to have sex, etc, so I with all that said, I think my body was ramping up for a last chance before the egg dropped down. I really think my egg dropped down right around when Christmas Eve happened, thus rendering my attempt on Christmas Day itself pointless, but making my attempt on the 22nd very interesting. That would've been a 1.5 / 2 day cut off, which is promising.
I am promising myself that I will stop obessing and see what happens. You never know, it may still be a decent attempt. I did not use any represh, because while i did have some EWCM, it wasn't what it usually is, and it wasn't so much that it was alarming me, either.
I :awe: you all so much, you give me so much support, thank you!!!
TTC can be so confusing, esp. when you throw swaying into the mix! Thanks again for everything!
:bighug:
Out of the Blue,
Thanks so much for your encouragement. It really means so much to me. I really have absolutely noone to talk to about this swaying stuff. My DH is really no help with it other than his sample LOL! I am feeling more blue this month because I have had so many pregnancy announcements this Christmas, and I am simply jealous. I really am and feel like I will never have a daughter of my own. I think this is the hardest month swaying ever. My emotions are so uncontrollable this month. I am so hormonal, that I can hardly stand to be around myself!!!!!
Ladies,
Thanks so much from the bottom of my broken heart. You all have been wonderful and I am trying to respond to all the posts and intend to as soon as I have a moment. I don't know what I would do without you all. You all totally get me and I thank God for bringing me to this group after being on IG for so long. You all have been so nice and supportive, that I can only try to return the favor. God bless you all through the New Year with +HPTs, wealth and happiness!!!
hi, ladies! I have been in bed for the last 36 hours with an awful stomach bug, not sure if its from Mexico or not, but all my effort to regain weight those 7 days has left me with nada! I'm down to 93 and haven't even truly started the diet again as I have been sick! This LE is going to be difficult to do. I feel like I totally wasted last month and I had such a strong O too, it was so painful for so many days and this after not ovulating for so many months! I just hope my body does the same thing next month.
How is everyone? I feel like everyone feels a little down? It looks like many of us O'd on cristmas eve, including myself (although I didn't attempt, ha!). I wish there was a way for us to meet in person for a girl's night out!
Aurora-how are things with dh?
:( sorry you've been sick, that must be really stressful :(Quote:
Originally Posted by amari
I also felt like my cycle of regaining weight was wasted as I lost it all again within a week of restarting the LE diet. I decided to just TTC anyway even though I haven't been on the diet the full 6 weeks as I can't last on it either :(
I hope it's ok for me to spread lots of babydust to you ladies, I'm sorry so many of you are having a rough time x
Zan, thx for the support!
Amari, it sucks to be unable to attempt :( I feel for you, darling, so sorry about the stomach bug!
KrazeyDaisy, big hugs hunny! I feel for u so much....that is long time to be TTC! I also agree it really helps to have support and encourgement....may we all be blessed with super awesome BFPs in 2012!!!
Oh, that would be so much fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by amari
WOW, I took a few days off gender dreaming and look at all the posts!!!!
I think I am 8 dpo with some symptoms but they are a lot like PMS.
I think next month I will just give up everything! It is just too stressful and I think I will suffer terrible GD. I might try to get back on the LE diet as best I can but with Christmas, my birthday (tomorrow) New Years Eve, the inlaws, and then we plan on going to Niagara Falls for a night......it is better to enjoy!
I am due to o the middle of January.
Same as OOTB!
OOTB I am so surprised a little girl did not sneak in there. I am sorry!
Mocha,..that is a long visit. I am off to inlaws in a few days! oh fun! They try too hard and they just watch us look after the kids. It is a lot of work!
I hope your dad is okay. I am glad your mom can help you out. I do miss that with my mom even though she wants to help it is too hard on her.
I am sorry for the sickness and the BFN and the missed months!
Just to make everyone feel better...or have a laugh,...I ate a wheel of brie last night! lol!
Oh, and some wine:)
Oh, and I liked everyone's recaps on attempts. It is funny that so few on trying now,,,we are all close to the new moon and our attempts.
I bd on cd -5, 0-4, 0-3, 0-2, and then twice on o day. It is hard to say exactly when I ovulated as my temp was high the entire time as I was sick. Also, I don't get a very noticeable temp difference. Am I the only one? I even got a new thermometer.
Tomorrow I turn another year older and another year away from being fertile. How depressing!!!
However, we are taking the kids to see a live theatre show so that is going to be fun!
Merry Christmas everyone!
LEMON
We've missed you, lemon! Have a great birthday tomorrow, and by all means enjoy yourself and eat what you want!
I'm in!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by amari
Hey Girls I hope everyone had a great Christmas all i can say is THANK GOODNESS its over for another year! I didnt do too bad with my eating BUT i had more chocolate than i should of! Oh well was going to happen... My attempt is around the 9th of jan and I cant wait although I am trying not to expect anything to happen first month of trying. My d/h has been releasing twice a day for 4 days and once yesterday and once today I hope I am not getting him to release too much? I may tell him just once a day from now until maybe the 6th and then start releasing twice again , I want my attempt to happen once and on first opk if possible, So would like to have 2 releases within the 24 hrs before my attempt? How is everyone going ?? I hope we all get our bfp!!
Lemon~ Early Happy Birthday!!! Missed ya LOL...
Mocha~ I'm sure you can't wait to get home.... Think of this everytime your MIL is bothering you- that you maybe cooking a little pink bean!
Out of the Blue~ Sorry about the BFN. Did AF show (I may have missed the post)
Amari~ You still gonna plan for January (like me) and look into HT same time?
Hello everyone else....
I know 2012 will be better for all of us! xxxx
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Originally Posted by drowning in boys
I sound just like you drowning in boys as also fell off the diet wagon night of O. I am 2 dpo and my PH has also gone up from eating a few wrong things. We DTD 0-12. Does anyone know how long fertilisation would take after ov if the spermies are in there waiting? Just thinking maybe since ov already happened then I haven't done any damage to my sway... wishful thinking anyway!!! AHHHH really hope for a bfp this month because really am so SICK of swaying, but thinking it prob didn't work anyway with only one attempt.
Well hope you all enjoyed family time over Christmas! x
Aww! Thank you so much that really made me smile when I read it!Quote:
Originally Posted by auroara78
how many attempts... hmm welp we went the FR route, my hubby flat out refused my suggestion of abstinence lol.. so we BD'd every day from AF to O-1... and with that DH released once in the morning, once in the evening and then 3rd time of the day was for baby making. He's got really good boy making spermies (since we have 3 already!!) so hopefully this helped knock down the numbers enough for a :pinksperm: to stand a chance!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
may I ask how old your DH is? mine is 31 and we have 3 boys so hes obviously got good strong swimmers, (and when we conceived the boys we were BD'ing like twice a day recreationally lol) so we decided he would release twice and then the 3rd time of the day is inside for baby making... i know the older a man gets the lower his sperm count anyhow, so that strategy may lower it too much if hes an older guy. best of luck!!Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkin2011