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true, most of the "weird" ones like that (including old wives tales) seem pretty close to the inverse
the ions one still surprises me, though, that's much higher than the inverse although of course could just be coincidence. But you'd think if it were only down to people trying everything resulting in stronger sways the OWT ones would be showing similar results
The prob. with the ions is that people have a wide level of compliance. One person may do EVERYTHING for ions and someone else may do one tiny thing but both people report it as being ions. Whereas you either have a wooden spoon under the bed, or you don't. Plus ions take some effort while anyone can stick a pink outfit under the bed or whatever. So I do think there could easily be something where people swaying more strictly were more likely to do ions (even if just in the form of a bracelet or lavender lotion).
There were plenty of ions opposites on IG with people doing far far more than anyone does on here. I mean they had magnets in their underwear, $500 ionizers, and all kinds of stuff. The blue swayers were burning incense and sleeping under electric blankets and still getting opposites. So that is one where I personally believe it's correlation and not causation. It seems very unlikely to me that if ions sway, that a person who uses a little lavender lotion or wore one single bracelet is gonna get the same results as someone who did everything under the sun, yet I would bet that's what most of the people who included ions (at least on this site) did. So when i see opposites with the "everything under the sun" people, successes with lavender lotion, and then people like Zanacal and I and the many IG blue sway opposites who actually were exposed to positive ions and got girls - it doesn't add up.
Of course doing a few little cheap things to include ions probably does not hurt anything but I don't want anyone to do like they did on IG and "up the ions" to make up for shortcomings in diets. :)
I did the magnet thing ... The shame ;-) xx
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AAA I'm sorry not meaning to call anyone out on it, whatever works! - but we gotta know what does work and if people are doing undie magnets and getting opposites, then there's just no way that using a little lavender lotion is getting high % successful sway numbers and it is likely a coincidence! :heart:
I wonder if the lavender is swaying not by ions but by hormones (of course no way of knowing this for sure), but I do think the results are much higher than we'd expect especially as it's easier to keep these things than drop them if swaying for several months. You'd think other things would be much lower too in that case (like lubes, etc) so it does seem to defy the change of people making sway-cuts. Ultimately I think they're fairly easy to do and easy to keep up so no harm in including them especially with results like that
sorry I can't remember the details of your sway, but I know Zana had a super-strong sway even without the ions!Quote:
Zanacal and I and the many IG blue sway opposites who actually were exposed to positive ions and got girls
And I'd never tell anyone otherwise, and in fact I include things like lavender lotion in the Custom Sway Plans for anyone who wants them.
But the problem is that it's not broken down in terms of lavender lotion vs. rose quartz vs. ionizers, so when people see in some statistics that "ions are swaying X amount" and I do not offer any explanation, then they begin to believe that ions in and of themselves are doing something. But based on the stuff I saw on IG where people doing way more ion stuff and were still getting opposites, that they are not. It's my job to point that out because I do not want to see people shelling out $500 for these things that I do not believe sway whatsoever. Lotion, bracelet, whatever, that's a tiny expense and does no harm. But some of the people were buying a ton of stuff (some people spent thousands) and using "ions" to justify doing lesser sways in other ways, and a lot of them got opposites.
ANYONE can smear some lotion on themselves or wear a bracelet, and then report that "I used ions". We have NO WAY to know on the basis of the stats, who did what and how strict they were. Lavender lotion, unlike jellies, etc do not inhibit conception and so people keep them in the mix even as they drop other things (i.e. peopel who have a long time on diet will drop everything but will still do ions). I think people who tend to be strict, put the ions in there and keep them in because they don't inhibit conception. And those are the same people who are stricter on diet and all the rest of it. There are a lot of people who don't really think swaying is going to work, and they are more relaxed overall and they don't tend to include ions. (and that is FINE, it is fine to leave them in, it is fine to keep them out, it is each individual's call to make). my point is that the people who are self-selected to include/exclude ions are not random groups to start with.
I sat on my computer all day long and in the car in heavy traffic 500 miles every weekend, and bathed in pos ions. Zana and her husband both put laptops in their laps which are supposed to be terrible for ions. Strict sway, no strict sway, there are gobs people out there who do the "wrong" things for ions, even blue IG swayers who were bathing in pos ions, and still get girls. One lady on IG who was a big ion person and actually went into business selling ion-related stuff for pink sways and did such a strict sway she didn't conceive for two years, got a boy opposite. It's just not my experience or opinion that ions sway, others have different opinions and that's why we have this site, so everyone can have the sways that they want. :)
Thank you again VERY much for your work on this, rainbowflower! It's such an incredible reference and tool...you're very much appreciated!!
I thought of something that might be nice to see, and if this is too much I totally understand...but I think it would be interesting to see sways by year...to see if we are getting more successful, you know? Or sways by month or by quarter...might also show if there's a trend for more success in some months/seasons versus others.
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We've def. seen a huge improvement in the numbers recently. :agree:
I'd hope it will improve, especially as now some things are seeming to sway more significantly than others
although I hope it doesn't improve just because those who get an opposite don't feel strong enough to post their sways on here... whereas the first 100 I added based on the results in the "Add your sway" section