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awww HG i'm so sorry *BIG HUGS*Quote:
Originally Posted by HGmama
i understand your need to get pregnant and it's soooo frustrating to go month after month with BFNs
i definitely think that you should make an appt to see your doc since your goal is to maximize your chances. I'd also advise you to talk to atomic...she really has a wealth of knowledge with all of these things and could help you tweak your diet/plan.
Praying for you girl
Thx u jgojah for prayer, im fine, and u? I had appointment and i saw small dot in ultrasound:) next appointment in 2 weeks it should be heartbeat:heart::pray:
I still cant believe im pregnant. I wish u join me soon:pray:
Hello shinay, no symptons yet, few days i was more hungry but now all is like before. With my son nausea started 5+2 weeks now im 4+4. I hope this time it will not be so strong nausea.
Sorry to hear so HG:( i will pray for u, im sure soon u will find bfp:luck:
Shinay i just told it to my mother and one my friend. I will tell others after first prenatal screening in 12 weeks.
Thank you so much. That helpsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pbn3
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Sorry hgmama. I really thought this could be your month. If I were you, and it was consuming me, I would be seeing my doctor now to put my mind to ease.. But a word of caution - you have to be honest with your doctor about your swaying plan. Swaying pink does somewhat lower fertility and make it longer to get pregnant. And your doctor may just well ask you to shelf all that and BD every other day through O to improve your odds. I doubt a doctor will have the time and patience to believe that swaying can work! And their measure of success is you having a baby, not a girl baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by HGmama
So that's just my two cents!
You did get pregnant in the past, so you know you can. Maybe it's just taking longer.
Why don't you go easy on the diet, include high nutrients back in, eat some eggs and BD more frequently? You know just maximize your chances of pregnancy overall! I don't know how hard you are swaying. Maybe you just need to ease up. GL!
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Pbn3,Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbn3
It's funny how you want people to know and understand, but you also don't want the pity/sympathy/(maybe)judgment?
I told my parents after I had my first mc, I told my mom during the second, and when I got pg with DS I told everyone (family) right away because I wanted them to know how loved this baby was even if we were going to lose him (which thankfully we didn't!). For my 3rd mc after I had DS I told my mom but this time she told people that I did not want knowing about the preg OR the mc so that really hurt me as it was intended to be confidential.
At any rate, mc stays with you, and it stays with you, and it stays with you. You want other people to have empathy toward the absolute anguish that you're in, but a lot of the time it just seems like they don't understand or can't relate to what you're going through - unless they've been there. At some level, I know those pregnancies would have never progressed and resulted in a baby, but they still mean something to me, and I think they always will.
I'm now pg again (4w6d) and we are not telling a soul until 8 weeks (for family) and 12 weeks for everyone else. But who knows - I am terrible at keeping secrets so it could slip sooner lol
I really am not sure! Today temp stayed the same as yesterday. 8DPO now, maybe 6? Also TMI but cm was creamy/yellow a few days ago and now the last two days nada. I’m having cramping this morning. Not looking good. We are leaving to go camping today until Monday so I won’t be able to keep temping. I hope AF doesn’t show :pray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbn3
Dont apologize. I cant imagine the pain and how heartbroken you and some other ladies have gone through. They are a part of you and they will always be there in your heart. I wish no women shall have to go through that, but it happens more often than I would think. I kinda want to tell family, but I am afraid, like you said, if something happens, I dont want our family to be so sad and disappointed. It will be first grandchild for both my and DH family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pbn3
12 weeks is a long time and I do want to tell our family slightly earlier than that. I will try to call doctor and see when I can come in. It most likely wont be till 8 weeks. DH thinks we should tell around 5-6 weeks.
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jgojah: thank you. Working out everyday is so hard though. I was doing 3 times weight training per week for my boy sway, but had hard time maintaining that. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106] for how committing you are. I wish you lots of pink dusts and bfp soon.
HGmama: awww I am sorry that AF came (big hugs). I hope you have good news this cycle. Maybe you can ask atomic like someone suggested and she might be able to give you ideas to improve your conception chances without affecting your sway much.
Babygirlwishing: i am sorry that you had mc before, but congratulating on being pregnant again. I hear you about keeping secret. I am so thrilled and super excited that I wonder how long I can hide it. I wish you a smooth and easy pregnancy.
Noemi: aww how lovely it is that you get to see the little one. I hope 2 weeks come by quickly so you can see your baby again with heartbeats [emoji173]I am like 3w 3 or 4 days so I am pretty much 1 week behind you. Doctor probably wont see me till 8 weeks. As for symptoms, I am the same, have been sooo hungry throughout the day recently. And if I dont munch on sth, my hands will start shaking. I have also been feeling dizzy and light nausea. I dont like this feeling at all. I hope we both wont have bad ms. I pray for smooth and easy pregnancy for all who are pregnant and those who will be soon!!!
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Hgmama I'd just make the appt and see what happens. I wouldn't mention swaying at all, but I would say you've been tracking your cycles and using opks to optimise your chances to no avail. Are you hoping for clomid or femara? If you're ready to just get pregnant you could try smep this cycle before seeing someone?
I know this sucks so much and I'm sorry af arrived [emoji17]
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It's so hard! I've been on the diet all year and I've had a few too many cheat days myself [emoji23] but I just take it day by day and do my best! Lose the breakfast first it's the easiest to drop and maybe just have coffee ? As for working out you just have to find something fun! I got extremely bored on my treadmill and switched to blogilates and I love it!https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/474f80Quote:
Originally Posted by Heart desires pink LP
What's blogilates?Quote:
Originally Posted by strawberrybella89
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No, you do NOT need to tell your doctor about swaying and in fact you shouldn't. They will simply seize upon that as a reason you have not conceived and do NO investigation even though swaying should not be preventing most of you from conception (we have average 3 months to conception) as long as you don't cut back too far and you drop sway tactics over time. There could very easily be something that is wrong that a doctor can fix with a pill but they won't do that if they assume that you're doing something that may harm your chances of conceiving.
HG, I have tried and true methods for boosting odds of conception that have helped all but a handful of people conceive since 2010. I am more than happy to help anyone up their chances of conception but please go off what I say and not others, even though they mean well they just don't have the same level of experience I do. We are hitting a moving target between swaying pink and conceiving and it takes minor adjustments sometimes to make that happen. No one wants to toss out a sway boosting odds of conception when there are ways to BOTH keep swaying AND boost odds of conception.
It is not enough just to eat more nutrients. Remember, there are blue swayers and people who are not even swaying and eating tons of nutrients and still don't get pregnant. Sometimes people think "oh I need chicken and prenatals" when neither of those things even ups your chances of conceiving. What we may need is calories overall and fat, and then to ditch any extraneous sway tactics and adding attempts properly, not just willy nilly. Just eating more nutrients and having more attempts is not enough (because many times the way people add attempts doesn't even boost their chances of conceiving anyway.)
Ladies, it's literally impossible for me to keep up on these threads. I WANT to help anyone who is struggling but I cannot always read every question in these threads. Sometimes you're not going to get the same advice that I would give in them. So if you need help, please start a dedicated thread just for yourself where I can help you one on one and not in a long thread where lots of people are asking lots of questions and everyone's situation gets all confused as to who I'm answering and what questions I'm replying to.
It's a fun exercise program on Youtube that I recommend for both pink and blue. She has cardio exercises that are good for pink and then more muscle building stuff that's good for blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heart desires pink LP
hgmama, I am sorry about AF. And I get it about financial stress- insurance is such a pain.
My doctor didnt say anything about 3 months average to conceive after a d&c. she said that if I hadn't conceived within 6 months to call her, not to wait a year because I'm 39. I just called to set something up because it's been 5 months. I agree with pbn about not mentioning the sway yet. And I strongly suggest you talk to Atomic, she's doing some things with my diet and attempts to increase the odds of pregnancy while maintaining a girl sway.
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CD22 for me. FF hasn't marked probable ovulation date yet, probably because I had so many differences in my charting. I am neatly certain I ovulated and will try to wait until the end of next week to test.
staying on the diet has been harder than before - solidarity with those of you struggling to stay on it!
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The same with me....since the LE diet my LP was very short, 8-10 days :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Raining
Did you already manage to lengthen it though?
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Are you thinking with seeing your doc you may want to get Clomid/Femara? I can tell you my experience & how I ended up on Clomid. I had an early m/c last August after conceiving on our 2nd month TTC. I met with my doctor after that and told him we'd been trying "for a few months" (technically true since we started in July!), that I have super short cycles and that my LP is normally 9-10 days (all true!). I told him I felt like something was "off" with my cycles/hormones (even though I conceived my two boys w/ the same LP!). He agreed to do basic fertility testing over my next cycle but made it clear he would not offer any medication until he did so - so I had to wait that cycle out in terms of TTC. So he tested my AMH, FSH, estrogen, and post-O progesterone. All of those came back normal - although, my progesterone on CD21 was at the very low end of normal. So I think it was the combo of borderline progesterone, very short cycles/ LP and my recent m/c that made him lightly suggest that I could try Clomid if I wanted to. Because I wanted it for swaying I jumped on that offer right away! But yea so I got Clomid even though we get pregnant easily and I don't have PCOS, and I do think it helped my cycles in terms of producing a "better" ovulation and thus more progesterone post-O. In your case, if your cycles are getting less regular, you have a short LP and you had a miscarriage recently maybe your doc would be open to trying something, but if she's like my doc she may make you jump through a few hoops first (ie testing). As far as the LP, 9-10 days technically is long enough - but like atomic told me in the beginning of my swaying process, with that length of an LP you still may be a good candidate for a med like Clomid b/c it is a good treatment for short LPs.Quote:
Originally Posted by HGmama
I never in over a year of swaying, TTC-ing, 3 miscarriages, fertility testing, and then recurrent pregnancy loss testing with a Reproductive Endocrinologist told my doctors about my swaying. I can't imagine telling them all I was doing (dieting, alcohol, coffee, etc) to try to get a girl would have gone over at all well with them and I'm sure they would have told me to drop those things as they were likely harming my fertility. I did however at one point tell my RE that I had lost a lot of weight over the past year and asked if that be a factor in my m/cs and she said no, not at all. But yea I wouldn't bring that stuff up either. I think outside of our community here it would be really hard for most people to understand all the things we'll put ourselves through to get a girl - even though we know that nothing atomic recommends here is dangerous and she's done her research on what is safe and what's not in terms of swaying!
I'm sorry you didn't see a BFP this month - I'm really bummed about that as well!! Hang in there, as I was told over and over by those on here, your sticky bean will come!! That sucks about the insurance stuff - such a freaking pain and so insanely expensive!!
Good luck Gafan!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by gafan
With my DS1 I told my mom the day I got my BFP, LOL! And I've basically told her right away with every pregnancy, including my 3 m/cs. She hasn't even always been the most supportive when it comes to responding to my pregnancies and m/cs but we're still very close so I just always feel the need to tell her right away anyways. We tell my dad and stepmom early too and this pregnancy we told my DH's dad and siblings very early. All of our immediate family members know about all 3 of our miscarriages. For me, I realized with m/c #1 that it doesn't bother me having people know that I m/c but it does bother me if I can't talk about/process it - and I did want those in our family to know what we were going through and we wanted that support. But that is just me - and other people have totally different feelings about announcing pregnancies and how they would feel if they miscarry and people know about it. It's totally individual and totally needs to be what's best for you and DH!!! Some people seem to like keeping it a secret for awhile - I'm terrible at that and want to tell everyone right away LOL!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by shinay
HG I’m so sorry. I wish this were different. Sending you a massive hug.Quote:
Originally Posted by HGmama
It can’t hurt to make an appointment & talk through your concerns. Whatever is going to help put your mind at ease you should do. Don’t feel like you’re rushing things by checking in with the dr, you’re empowering yourself to get pregnant.
Have a chat with atomic, it does seem sone simple tweaks have helped a lot of people get their bfp!
And I feel you on the focus on ttc, it is very consuming, hang in there.
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That’s your baby Noemi!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Noemi2017
How wonderful
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With my 1st 2 boys I dtd every other day and ds3 was an o+12 attempt. This time I wasn't worried about timing but trying to stick to a 7 day abstain. Although now it's looking like I might o Sunday bc my opk I took at work today is decently darker than yesterday at the same time. If I O Sunday we might try compressed fr (2x in 6 hrs) or a regular attempt. I'm not sure I want to miss the 1st month off bcp or if I should wait til next cycle. Which is better, 1st month off bcp or abstain?
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thanks for writing this, ABC. one of the things I wondered about my miscarriage at 7.5 weeks was if it was because I was losing weight (not swaying, just relatively low calories and probably sometimes not enough water if I forgot to drink it). It sounds like your doctor would tell me the weight loss had nothing to do with my miscarriage. I know that a developing embryo will take whatever nutrients needed from Mother's body, but I still worried about it.https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6e5253Quote:
Originally Posted by ABC.2606
Raisinggentlemen this is a question for Atomic [emoji4] Can you create a new thread under ttc girl forum? I'm fairly sure coming off bc sways quite strongly pink and I'm not sure if it's wise to potentially 'not' get an attempt in if the compressed fr doesn't work out (hubby unable to see second release through (it being your actual attempt)) so I'd probably just have a standard attempt and maybe j&d after a couple minutes as a compromise? Again though, this is an Atomic question so please run it past her [emoji4]Quote:
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ABC- thanks for hopping in to comment. I'm not sure what I want out of my doctor yet, maybe just opinions and a plan. I made an appt for Aug 1st. That will be CD 20 for me. I'm hoping that it will all be a great jinx and I will be getting a BFP just days after meeting with her. Wouldn't that be ideal??? Thank you for telling me your story. I would be open to clomid or femara, but by tracking my cycles, it does seem like I am ovulating so I don't know if clomid or femara is needed- but I didn't know it could help me LP. I too have a short LP, averaging 10-11. I am so within a normal range of cycle length, but my O is a different CD every cycle. I wouldn't mind it for the swaying though. :wink: I would like labwork. I feel like I am STRUGGLING with not losing weight and I am truly trying. I have gained 15 lbs since March's miscarriage. I also do think I need to get back on a TTC/pregnancy safe anti-depressant. I got off a non-safe one in November, but given my previous history of intrapartum and PPD, I might need it all the time now. So those are my goals. Back on meds and a plan to check me out post mc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABC.2606
So back in December when I got my IUD out, I did tell her that I had a swaying for girl plan. I was doing IG things at that point as I had not found this site yet. I explained why I was taking Cal-Mag and Cranberry. She said "Cool, my sister did all the girl things when she was TTC a girl." So other than that, I don't think I will further talk about swaying. When making the appt, the nurse said, "are you having sex every other day?" I almost LOL. DH and I would never be able keep that up. Do I fib on how often I am BDing?
[QUOTE=emshe;989759]HG I’m so sorry. I wish this were different. Sending you a massive hug.
Thanks Emshe! I posted most of my follow up on ABCs reply. Thank you for validating my feelings on empowering myself to get pregnant. I like how you think.
Atomic- Thank you for posting! I have already had a slight mention of swaying girl which she had no problem with. I won't mention any more unless specifically asked. Today I bought my big plan and sent in my questionnaires. That way we can chat back and forth and come up with a good plan to boost odds both ways.Quote:
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Thanks PBN3! See my reply back to ABC. I have barely looked into SMEP but from what I remember... it seemed like a lot of BDing.
That sounds like a good plan with your doctor. Have you had your thyroid checked? I would def ask for that. Also I remember you saying (I think it was you!) that your doc is a pretty open/honest/blunt doc so that's cool you were able to talk to her about some of the swaying stuff and that she didn't think it was weird at all! My doc is a cool guy but I think if I told him I was doing things to try to "sway girl" he may have looked at me like I was totally crazy!! Although he's been in practice a long time and probably dealt with far crazier women so who knows!Quote:
Originally Posted by HGmama
I do think Clomid can help even in women who ovulate normally but it's definitely something you'd have to feel comfortable with. And of course I'm a prime example of Clomid's biggest "risk" - twins! So you have to factor that in as well. If you are ovulating already it could increase the odds of more than 1 egg being released.
Yea the frequency thing in terms of what to tell your doc is a little tough... I'm glad I never really got asked that question! But, you're doing every 72 hours or so right? While not every other day that's still a pretty good pattern I think so maybe you could just say every couple days, and explain that with your busy schedules the every other day thing is pretty tough? May have to fib a bit if asked how close to your +OPK you are BD-ing though.
If you really want to increase your odds next cycle too you could try E4D plus one attempt at +OPK? Seems to be recommended more often now by atomic and others and I saw atomic say the other day that lately 2 attempts really hasn't been much worse for a girl than 1. Your choice obviously, just an idea though.
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Emshe are you testing tomorrow morning? Or collecting a sample? [emoji102]
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Gafan 3dpo:luck:
Emshe will u test today?:fingers:
HGmama it helped me bd in first positive opk, it was 2 days before ovulation. I did e4d +1 attempt at first positive opk. I was also eating 2 eggs weekly, 1x weekly salmon, full fat dairy (if u didnt try yet)
Shinay did u test again today?:)
Emshe: let us know as soon as you test. Cant wait for some squinters.
Noemi: that is very sweet of you for asking. I didnt want to bombard everyone with too many bfp pics lol. I used ic yesterday just to see line progression. Today I did a frer again. What makes me a bit worry is that it has been 2 days since i last used frer, but the line doesnt seem to be darker given HCG is supposed be getter darker every 2 days. It might look even slightly lighter [emoji45]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5f56628261.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...178ddba560.jpg
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Pbn: i think it was you who asked if i will post my sway (sorry if i am mistaken lol). Not sure if i answered or not, but I probably wont post it till i pass 12 weeks mark. I just want to be on a safer side.
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Congrats Shinay [emoji322][emoji322] So pleased for you. I’ve not been on for a week or so, so only just seen your bfp. Today’s line looks a tiny bit darker to me and your cheapie looks loads darker. Try not too worry too much, I know that’s impossible!
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Shinay i see very good progression, tests are getting darker and darker, u are just 10dpo so for very strong positive wait few days;)
Shinay the IC looks very good and I think the FRER looks a tiny bit darker. Was today's test with FMU?