I will tell him to just do it once a day for a few days as i still have 10 more days of this until our first attempt . the closer we get the more times i will get him to do it.... cant wear him out too much or i may not even get a attempt!!
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I will tell him to just do it once a day for a few days as i still have 10 more days of this until our first attempt . the closer we get the more times i will get him to do it.... cant wear him out too much or i may not even get a attempt!!
Mocha, I would trust your body especially considering all you had going on this month that might have caused little changes in your chart that FF might interpret differently.
About doing frequent release I worried about it this month because DH is not big on taking care of it hisself so I was almost always involved. He is always really tired at night so I worried he would be too tired to but all except 2 nights he did and after missing 1 he did 2 releases the next day.
So the line is definitely not a lot darker this morning but I see it a little better. I took the test yesterday at 3pm after not going to the bathroom for almost 4 hours and I took this test at 5am after not going for 5 hours. So it's only been 14 hours since my last tests so I guess I can't expect it to suddenly be super dark. But here it is...
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The timezone bit would definitely alter temps unless you adjusted them to your regular timezones time... the cold room would have a lesser effect unless you temp orally and sleep with your mouth open. Even if room is colder your core temp should be stable - your body would just have to work harder to maintain it
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Zan-my dh had a hard time doing the fr, I def had to be involved! You are lucky!
mocha-I found temping so hard a few years ago I gave up. Good luck. girlie!
jamie-still looks good to me, aren't you just 10dpo?
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I agree I tired temping one cycle and it I gave up as well! And yes I am just 10DPO and just barely 10 because I Oed really late on the 19th (like around 11) and tested this morning at 5am.
Hey, guys! I have TONS of catching up to do here b/c yesterday I had to watch my friend's 2 sons...It was a house full of CRAZY BOYS which I'm used to but the kid count doubled and I was on my toes all day! My learning curve definitely went up, lol.
I'm hoping that today is the first day of my period...I woke up to a bit more blood than I had been spotting so I marked it as light flow on FF so I could start a new cycle. I really hope it picks up and continues b/c I'm so ready to move on and purge 2011 from my system. BUH-BYE, 2011!!!
I've been doing a lot soul-searching lately as my diet and other things have been really weighing me down. I decided to revamp my diet and loosen things up a bit. Once I decided that, it was like a huge weight off my shoulders. I will still be following some basics like keeping cals/fat/protein/sodium low and will remain either vegetarian or vegan but I will add in a bit more nutrients. In addition, I am toying w/eating breakfast but having the last meal of the day between 3-4. I really need this change as I have been feeling utterly terrible physically and mentally and it's been a challenge to keep up w/my boys and really be present w/them mentally. I know this may swing me back to boy territory (if I was even in girl territory), but my diet has really been draining me emotionally. I need to feel better emotionally in order to be in a good place to concieve the child of my dreams and I feel that if I'm stressed out, I just won't be able to do that.
I hope all of you are doing well and I haven't a clue what's been going on w/all of you the past 1.5 days so I'll need to catch up! :HH: to all of you!!!
BTW, I did see that you got a BFP, Jamie and I just responded to your other 2 threads...I'm so excited for you but I kind of knew you'd get it b/c you felt it as well as your Mom. :cheer: Eat up, girl!!!
MJ, FF did that to me last time...Got crosshairs for the 13th and then FF moved them to the 15th...I think I actually O'd on the 14th. Trust yourself b/c FF can make mistakes. Regardless of when you O'd, I think your BFP is coming soon! YAY for 2012 and oooooodles of BFP for all of us very soon!!!Quote:
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Mocha, I think you're right and FF is wrong, you seem to know your body very well! I am so hoping for a BFP for you!!!!
Jen, with those temps, I really felt that a BFP was coming...so sorry it wasn't, but I'm happy AF is trying to come for real, that would help just to start a new cycle fresh
rainbowflower, I sleep with my mouth open all the time (I don't breathe well from my nose) would that cause low temps if taken orally? I took my temp again today and it was 97.1, yesterday was 97.7, which was the highest it's been in the four days I've been temping. Since I didn't temp before ovulation, I don't know what they were, but these temps still seem way TOO LOW to be post ovul temps, so I am feeling way discouraged and just don't feel like it happened.
Truly do not believe I even O'ed now...though I had the symptoms of it so hard over the weekend, the O pain on the left side mostly, feeling extremely frisky, CM...the works...the CM took a few days to go down but now today it's pretty much dry / creamy, so I don't think my body is gearing up to O, I think it O'ed either earlier than I thought or the most likely explaination, it just didn't happen.
I am really down because I really had this vision of a baby girl born in September. Now when I look at all my possbile O days in the months ahead, it's all in very heavy boy time. O'ing in the full moon on boy signs...sigh, I know some of you don't believe in the moon phases, but I do because it was right for my kids and right for 3 out of 4 of my family's. I just feel like December was my shot at a girl, and the months coming up are all very boy heavy.
Auroara, don't worry one little iota about the next O dates being in "boy territory" as I really don't think that stuff sways much (if at all!). I used to really believe that stuff a lot but in doing so, I've found it just stresses me out too much. I know Atomic doesn't put too much stock into it and she's definitely been around swaying for a long, long while. FWIW, I was soooo convinced that the Chineese calendar was right but then it gave me "boy" for my lost girl. I was such a stress-ball in my last pregnancy b/c so many signs were pointing to "boy".
I completely understand, too, about thinking this was your shot at a girl...I thought I had this attempt completely in the bag as I have been uber-fertile in the past & in addition, we had all that BD. It just felt like I was going to have a late Aug/early Sept. kid. I'm taking it as a sign (for me at least) to stop trying to control everything and let go a bit. You, however, still have EVERY CHANCE in the world to still get your Sept BFP...Maybe you didn't O but maybe you did! I know my words aren't helping much b/c not knowing if you O'ed or not is driving you crazy but you will never know for sure unless you get your BFP. Try to relax a bit if you can and we'll help you not go too crazy, okay! :HH:
There is a second line Jamie86! So happy for you!!! Now I have to research your sway LOL!!!
Jen, thanks so much for the words! They do mean so much to me, and help me begin to calm down!
I am being a major stress ball...I just need to chill out and give it a rest and be cool :cool:
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Be cool hunny bunny! Be cool! (sorry watched pulp fiction last night lol) Just try to say a little prayer and let it ALL go!! Diet, temps, the moon phases, BD timing, EVERYTHING! If it is meant to be, God will find a way regardless of what FF or +OPK's say! (he found a way ergardless of what my BC said for my #1DS, so anythings possible! LOL) I also am desperately hoping for an early sept baby girl but I know it will all come when its time and not a moment before so I am just going about life as normal, eating all the goodies outta my christmas stocking and relaxing. well until i see a calendar pop up and then i just stress that its not the 7th yet lol.. but i have gone through the house and taken all the calendars off the wall so I can relax more :) Just try to stay chill and keep a positive outlook because you may very well be already knocked up and just dont know it yet!!
drowning-LOVE that movie and that is a good motto to have!
aurora-I feel the same exact way you do, exactly, so I feel your pain. I really don't know how I could have screwed up this month so badly and for me it was in my control, (I still may not of gotten prego, but I really messed up big time). Anyways, we should really start to be nicer to ourselves, myself included. Life has a funny way of happening despite our plans, doesn't it?
Ootb-hiya! how are you feeling about your new plan?
Jamie-any more tests?
You and me both, Jen! 2012 is going to be an amazing year...I can feel it! I so hope af picks up for you and you can get to work planning your next attempt - I think all this bleeding was just your hormones re-balancing just like happened to me last month.Quote:
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And I think you're making a wise decision about the diet. Honestly, I already eat more fruit and veggies than I probably should on the diet, but it helps keep me sane. I will definitely loosen up on the diet if I end up having to do this for much longer. I'm just so sick of denying myself everything I like!
Hey ladies - I'm finally at my mother's house after a very long 14 hours of travel. The flight itself was only 2 hours, but it was delayed by 4.5 hours, then we had to drive 3 hours to my Mom's house after we finally landed. I am completely exhausted. I still don't know what to think about FF's changes to my cycle this morning. All day today I was having niggly cramps, and my boobs are sore - which has never been either an af or BFP symptom for me. I keep wavering between thinking I've completely ruined my chances at a BFP this month and thinking I have a bean growing in there right now.
Honestly, I've never been very good about temping. I'm up and down so many times in the night with my kids, it's hard to get an accurate temp at the same time every day. I'm also bad and don't set an alarm to temp, but since one or the other of my kids is up sometime around 5:30 every day wanting something, I always temp then. Some days it might be 5, some days it might be 6 - or anything in between. I also sleep with my mouth open, so I know that's a factor. While visiting my ILs, my temp times were even more erratic than usual because my kids were sleeping terribly and waking up at strange times. I still often woke up around 5 every morning out of habit and tried to always temp then, but some mornings the kids went to bed so late that they slept in and I didn't temp until close to 7am.
Anyway, I chose to ignore FF's change since it would make me lose hope for a BFP, and I think we all need a little hope in our lives...
I think so too...I just didn't expect it b/c I had a nice, normal 1st cycle post-m/c so I thought it was smooth sailing. I'm so glad you reminded me of your last cycle b/c I really feel like it was the same thing...Thanks so much for giving me some peace of mind so I didn't keep googling dire possibilities...Quote:
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Yep...just write FF off b/c you know yourself/body better that FF, especially w/all the variables at play. Always, ALWAYS keep the hope alive...I'll always keep the hope alive for you as well! Your BFP is sooooooo very close, MJ!!!Quote:
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Amari, you’re going to hit it out of the ballpark this next time, I know it!!! You’re in a great place and your BFP is just around the corner…:cheer:
Today I discovered that if I change the FF settings to 'research' instead of 'advanced', my O-day moves back to where I want it. That makes me feel better. Today I have crazy cramps, I'm constipated (could be due to travel, though), and have TONS of yellow creamy cm. :fx:
Mocha, those signs do seem promising!!! There was a post on IG about twinning, and Tamara said flying in the 2WW can cause identical twins, something about the pressure of flying, so FX that you get a BFP...and maybe identical twin girls!!!!
Jen, did AF come full force yet? You are in my thoughts, hon, I can't wait to hear your sway plan coming up! FX a sticky pink bean soon for you!!
Amari, I agree, I think we are just too hard on ourselves! Don't beat yourself up about wasting one dose of Clomid, I'd just make sure you stick to the diet and other swaying factors, and make sure to get lots and lots of BD'ing in with Clomid. We all goof-up sometimes, but as long as we learn from it, that's what is important!
Jamie, did you retest this morning just to see those two beautiful lines again? :)
Lemon, are you around? are you testing yet? What's going on with you? I would drop the rephresh this next month if you really want to get preggers, and just stick to diet as best you can, and keep taking baby aspirin and folic acid.
I am doing better today, I have banned myself from my therometer until CD1 begins. I am now refusing to get upset about temps without the full cycle worth of them.
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That goes for you, too, Lemon! Have you POAS???
Thankfully, light AF from yesterday turned to HEAVY AF today...Whew! I've started up the Vitex, Pep & RL tea again. I'm pretty sure our plan for next time involves a lot of BD again (:p) but I'm still on the fence regarding RepHresh...:worry: I think my O date will be around the 15th of January (give or take a few days). Today is the second day in a row that I've eaten breakkie...I feel much better but I'm still working on skipping dinner. I had something light at 7 last night...I'm hoping to do better today so that I can have my last meal by 4pm if not earlier...:fingers:
Aaahhhhhhh! Don't say that! One set of twins is more than enough for me!!! :worry: With my luck it would be twin boys again anyway....Quote:
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I totally agree with your thermometer ban, btw - I think we read waaaayyy too much into the 2WW temps. When I compare the my BFP cycles that are stored on FF, they're completely different from each other anyway.
Jen - I like your new diet plan. Personally, I find skipping breakfast easy (I've never been a big breakfast eater) and look forward to my dinner/night time snack too much to do it your way, but I think since you found skipping breakfast hard this is a really good choice for you. Low blood sugar is low blood sugar - I'm sure it makes no difference what time of day it is!
I still need to catch up but I did see a question about if I tested again and I did. It's so hard not to overanalyze everything but I don't know if the line progressed enough from yesterday to today. I'm now 11DPO (but like I said yesterday really closer to 10 because I Oed really late at night like 11 on the 19th and I took this test at 4am). Here they are both pics are from 4-6 minutes.
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http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...0/8dd86b05.jpg
And so you don't have to go back and find it here is yesterday's about 5am
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So, I think I am feeling better about my AF. I did a little online shopping to get some needed supplies for this attempt. Bought OPK's, HPTS, CBE sticks, SYLK, and some Phion PH sticks from Amazon yesterday. I am on CD5 and thinking of DTD from end of AF through O+1 and or O+2 or whatever. Anyone used SYLK? Thinking of no supplements this month other than my regular meds to help with my extremely low hormone levels, folic acid and maybe baby aspirin. Not sure about the baby aspirin though because I have extreme anemia, so low blood, and I think aspirin can thin the blood? If I don't have much then why thin it lol. I just don't know what to take. Since my sickness sways girl, I tell ya, I really hate to take my meds LOL!!! Cause they sway boy LOL!!! Ladies help me with my attempt!!!
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I think that's a fine line for 11dpo Jamie!
Mocha - I laughed at the comment about twins on your behalf and imagined your reaction! Your symptoms sound really positive, I'm so hopeful for you :D
Blue - It's a tricky one I agree. Personally if I were doing frequent BD I wouldn't drop the Rephresh (although did you use 1/2 tube every other day? Perhaps once every 3 days is better?) because all that BDing has the potential to raise pH a lot but, on the other hand, perhaps sperm count being so low in conjunction with the Rephresh was just too much. Would you and DH consider doing frequent release (not BDing) and having less attempts closer to O and using just one application of Rephresh in advance of those attempts? Perhaps slightly less frequent as he released from AF last time around - stick with 7-10 days in advance of your attempts?
KraizyDaisy - I don't know about your condition but if baby aspirin is not recommended for you because of it then definitely don't risk your health by taking it. Most baby girls are conceived without baby aspirin!!
Thank you so much ladies for all the support! This forum is so much more supportive than many others I have been on and I really find myself invested in your journeys and hoping that everyone waiting for a BFP gets it soon!
Ok so I'm truly an addict and couldn't resist I held my pee and took this at 12:30 so I guess it's official!
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Yay, Jamie! There's nothing better than seeing that word on a test! :cheerteam:
I agree! The two lines before were just BEAUTIFUL! But to see the word...that is AMAZING!!!
Love seeing it in words, yay!
Woot, Jaimie!
Hey ladies - I'm getting more and more anxious about my chart. Remember how FF keeps trying to change my O date to the 26th? Right now I have it set on 'research', which is the only way I can keep my O date on the 24th, when I think it happened. However, I started looking more closely and realised that having my O date there makes my coverline really low - way lower than usual - 36.3 (97.3). When I look back at my previous charts, my coverline is almost always 36.5 (97.7) or so, which is starting to make me suspect FF might be right after all.
The two factors at issue are the +OPK on the morning of the 25th, and that wonky low temp on the 26th. If I remove either of those, my O-date returns to the 24th, where I want it to be. Can anyone take a look and tell me what you think? Remember that my temps were all wonky anyway - taken at different times and after very restless sleep - because we were staying with my in-laws. My cervix was tightly closed by mid-day on the 25th and my cm was definitely creamy.
If I'm actually 5dpo today, as it suggests, then my coverline is much closer to my usual temp. However, it would mean I had a 3 day cut off and my chances of a BFP are close to nil :(. I'm keeping the chart on 'research' for the moment, simply because I'll get too depressed if I keep seeing 5dpo instead of 7dpo, but I'm starting to think I'm going to be out this month. I just wish I'd risked annoying dh to have him continue to dtd until I was *really* sure O had happened, but he was just DONE with the whole frequent BD thing by then....
Mocha - If I distrust the two temps that you're doubting, it could be the 26th... but as they stand it does look very much like it's the 24th
may I ask which of your two OPKs produced the darker line?
even with a 3 day cut off you're not necessarily out, remember loads of women do conceive with a cut off... your chances are lower, but not zero
you know your body, and your cervix wouldn't have been closed if you were still waiting to ovulate
I wouldn't worry about the coverline either, it's natural for that to vary between cycles
Thanks, rainbow - it's just that when I look back, my coverline has always been very consistent, and when it's set at the current lower setting, most of my pre-O temps are actually above it, which is weird.
I can't say for certainty which OPK was darker. All I had were ICs, and I was having to be very sneaky about taking them because we had no privacy there. When the one on the 25th was still wet, it definitely looked darker, but as it dried it looked about equal to the one on the 24th (though still maybe a little more 'solid' than the one on the 24th. I normally O within 12 hours or so of my first +OPK, and I usually stop taking them at that point. I am so angry with myself for letting myself run out of digis since I am crap at interpreting OPKs
As I said, my temps were all over the place time-wise - I can't even go back to tidy them up because sometimes I think I recorded them in one time zone, and sometimes in another. I often took my temp several times - once during every wakeup from 3am on or so, and it sometimes varied over the different times by nearly a whole degree! I couldn't set an alarm because we were sleeping in the same room as all our light sleeping kids, so I just had to take my temp when I woke up naturally.
Mocha-I can't do charts so I can't help you out in that regard. Does charting always stress you out or just this cycle? If it always does, is it something you are willing to drop? Could you just use opk's and fertility signs instead? I tried it years back and it was just too stressful for me. I don't temp or chart or anything. I use ff just to write down when I get my period or o'd and that's it. Obviously use what works for you, I just hate to see you so stressed out.
ootb-how is AF? How are you doing mentally?
KD-Even though you want to do everything to sway you need to take care of your health. Can you do crystal light instead of baby aspirin for ph? We have tried sylk and it stung for me when we used it, but others seem to love it! Try it out, the website has sales, just buy a small bottle and try it when you aren't attempting maybe? That's what I did. After we bought it we decided we we weren't going to use it because I am taking clomid so it was besides the point!
Happy New Year everyone!! Anyone going out tonight? We are going to a long dinner party with tons of food and drinking. There will be no way to keep the blood sugar down. I am bringing veggies with hummus and dip made with light sour cream, and my pasta with sauteed leeks, and vodka with diet cherry 7-up to drink. But it will be on going consumption, so even though those are all good foods, the blood sugar will be staying up which sucks. Then of course there is dessert. Anyone else??
amari - charting doesn't normally stress me out. I usually find it very comforting to have something scientific to back up what I notice with my body. It was just because I was spending a week in a strange place in a different time zone and sleeping in a room with all 3 of my kids that made it stressful. I usually have a very good grasp of what's going on with my body, and FF and I always agree for the most part - that's what's making me panic this time. :worry:
I don't do charts Mocha so I can't help - but that aside your symptoms are really positive and you have a great chance based on those. {hugs}
Just reading through and had to share my chart from my BFP, for you Mocha~ It's all over the place but similar in some respects. Keep the hope alive! This could totally be your month!!
My Ovulation Chart