Due Sept/Oct/Nov 2016

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Originally Posted by lala22

Two- your OB lied and threatened you? What the hell?

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Basically I was told that my body was incapable of delivering naturally and that even attempting would kill my baby. He "diagnosed" me with cephalopelvic disproportion, an incomponent cervix (supposedly mine would not be capable of opening), and a hand full of other things without any medical proof, made me feel like some abusive parent for even considering a natural birth, etc. Then @ the cesarean it was "impossible" to get the needle in my spine so I had to be put to sleep, then they kept me so heavily drugged that my son was a day old before I ever saw him.... after the fact I was talking to another patient who said he had tried to do the same to her but she switched OBs which got me into wanting answers, requesting records, researching etc. That's how I learned it was all just a web of lies. But before I could do that I started running a high fever. He refused to accept that there was an infection present but I demanded antibiotics so he finally wrote me a script. Later, when we started TTC again I was on the hunt for a midwife to do a homebirth (illegal where I lived so I had to go "underground" to find one). In the meantime our mechanics daughter had him as an OB and he messed her up so bad she was left incapable of having more kids due to things being left inside her causing a massive infection. Then, I finally found a midwife and she was familiar with the OB who did it all and she shared horror stories of him breaking babies' necks during delivery, more stories of moms left infertile due to his care and a bunch more. So, as aweful as it was, things could have been soooooo much worse so I count my blessings on that much. My baby got here healthy and he didn't get the opportunity to leave me with a massive infection claiming my ability to have more thanks to me finally growing a pair big enough to question what he said and demanding the antibiotics. All things considered I guess I got the best outcome possible with him.... better would have been to switch docs altogether but as they say "hindsight is 20/20".

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Wow..I cannot believe people like him exist! And in the profession of bringing life into the world. It's supposed to be so beautiful and peaceful..that's heart breaking. Please tell me he was stripped of his ability to practice?

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Originally Posted by lala22

Wow..I cannot believe people like him exist! And in the profession of bringing life into the world. It's supposed to be so beautiful and peaceful..that's heart breaking. Please tell me he was stripped of his ability to practice?

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According to this ( Dr Hart - malpractice??? » Topix ) he was still practicing as of last year but don't know about now. Kentucky is retarded (not a word I use lightly) when it comes to medical law and protects the physician first and foremost. No matter how many times he gets sewed for malpractice he will not be forced to quit or lose his license because of it :(

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What is wrong with them?! I do hope he is seeing less patients these days. Two, are you still in Kentucky? What's the weather out there like right now?

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Originally Posted by lala22

What is wrong with them?! I do hope he is seeing less patients these days. Two, are you still in Kentucky? What's the weather out there like right now?

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Nope, moved to Indiana several years back. Where I am it's mostly hot & humid with spells of rain here and there. Lucky me, I have a summer cold which makes the heat that much more "fun" to deal with.

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I had similar but not as bad two. I got told I had mec in my waters and that was why I needed my labour augmented. My husband and Mw told me afterwards that it was a lie and in my notes the midwives documented clear liquor for my entire labour. After the drugs went up for the augmentation the pain went up, I ended up with an epi I didn't want and I didn't dilate fast enough and was exhausted from fighting for a natural birth and ended up with a c/s. I have had two beautiful hbacs since then.

And I'm not anti dr. I'm married to one. I just don't think Dr's believe in natural birth. They all see the worst of the worst and often interfere when they should leave well enough alone and only help when someone or their baby is sick. They have no patience for Mother Nature and interfere to try to hurry thins along and that in itself often causes a lot of complications that women are often then told that they are lucky their Dr's were there to fix, when they wouldn't have happened in the first place if they haven't interfered.

I hope you have a beautiful c/s two. Will you ask for family centers or maternal assisted or anything like that?


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

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Originally Posted by Bella29

I had similar but not as bad two. I got told I had mec in my waters and that was why I needed my labour augmented. My husband and Mw told me afterwards that it was a lie and in my notes the midwives documented clear liquor for my entire labour. After the drugs went up for the augmentation the pain went up, I ended up with an epi I didn't want and I didn't dilate fast enough and was exhausted from fighting for a natural birth and ended up with a c/s. I have had two beautiful hbacs since then.

And I'm not anti dr. I'm married to one. I just don't think Dr's believe in natural birth. They all see the worst of the worst and often interfere when they should leave well enough alone and only help when someone or their baby is sick. They have no patience for Mother Nature and interfere to try to hurry thins along and that in itself often causes a lot of complications that women are often then told that they are lucky their Dr's were there to fix, when they wouldn't have happened in the first place if they haven't interfered.

I hope you have a beautiful c/s two. Will you ask for family centers or maternal assisted or anything like that?


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

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Not sure what u are asking in that last paragraph. I agree completely with the first one though. I learned a lot after my first birth and feel the same way. I can also see that at times intervention is warranted but as moms, not docs, its hard to know which camp u fit in. So, we trust our docs and believe they will do right by us but sometimes that isn't the case either due to physician inexperience, impatience, greed, etc.

My last section wasn't bad. I reacted negatively to the spinal so I dry heaved non-stop for several mins and passed out at one point for a few secs but was alert and back to normal by the time they pulled him out. They lowered the curtain so I could see him being born which is a memory I will always get to cherish and hoping they will do the same this time. The pain was much more manageable last time than the first time too which meant I could enjoy him more instead of being in constant pain and extremely weak like I was after my first (I lost a lot of blood during first birth. I looked like a ghost for like a month.) So, I am expecting this one to be similar, just a bit longer since I am getting the tubal ligation after.

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Sorry two, auto correct mucked with my words. So family centred c/s means having things done like the drapes dropped so you can see your baby, you have already had that. It can also mean playing music of the mums choice when bubs is born and also putting things like the ecg dots on the mums back so that when the baby if given to her, she doesn't have wires everywhere. It can also mean that the dr gives the baby to the Mw, who just quickly checks by looking in a matter of seconds at the baby to see if it is breathing etc, and if it is, it is placed all wet on mums chest like a vaginal birth baby would be, for the mum to be the one to first touch and speak to. A friend of mine had a lotus c/s last year. So they kept the cord attached to the placenta and delivered them both together, so that the dad could cut the cord like in a vaginal birth and also so the baby gets delayed cord clamping, which is pretty cool :).

Maternal assisted c/s is where they glove up the mum, into sterile gloves and then when the dr had the babies head out of the mums body the mum is guided to reach down and lift out the baby and she then pulls it up onto her chest. I'm not sure how common that is where you are. Over here it is still something that women have to actively want and request and collaborate with the OB and hospital to get. It can sometimes be quite difficult to get, but it is becoming more popular as women request to be more involved in the c/s birth of their baby.

All of those things are options with different OB's where I live but still have to be negotiated. And they aren't for everyone. Some women I know couldn't imagine anything worse than someone handing them a wet slippery newborn who is covered in blood and mucous. Others wouldn't have it any other way. I think that as long as women know they have choices, then it doesn't matter what they choose as long as they get the choice.


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

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Originally Posted by Bella29

Sorry two, auto correct mucked with my words. So family centred c/s means having things done like the drapes dropped so you can see your baby, you have already had that. It can also mean playing music of the mums choice when bubs is born and also putting things like the ecg dots on the mums back so that when the baby if given to her, she doesn't have wires everywhere. It can also mean that the dr gives the baby to the Mw, who just quickly checks by looking in a matter of seconds at the baby to see if it is breathing etc, and if it is, it is placed all wet on mums chest like a vaginal birth baby would be, for the mum to be the one to first touch and speak to. A friend of mine had a lotus c/s last year. So they kept the cord attached to the placenta and delivered them both together, so that the dad could cut the cord like in a vaginal birth and also so the baby gets delayed cord clamping, which is pretty cool :).

Maternal assisted c/s is where they glove up the mum, into sterile gloves and then when the dr had the babies head out of the mums body the mum is guided to reach down and lift out the baby and she then pulls it up onto her chest. I'm not sure how common that is where you are. Over here it is still something that women have to actively want and request and collaborate with the OB and hospital to get. It can sometimes be quite difficult to get, but it is becoming more popular as women request to be more involved in the c/s birth of their baby.

All of those things are options with different OB's where I live but still have to be negotiated. And they aren't for everyone. Some women I know couldn't imagine anything worse than someone handing them a wet slippery newborn who is covered in blood and mucous. Others wouldn't have it any other way. I think that as long as women know they have choices, then it doesn't matter what they choose as long as they get the choice.


Two girls and one boy, due October 16

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Ah I see. The lowed curtain, be alert for the birth and DH being there pretty much satisfy me :) After everything a healthy, safe delivery is all I am worried about. The rest is just bonus. :D

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The heat, the heat... will it ever end?! SO not loving California in the summer right now. Blah.

On the upside... got Little Princess's crib set up! Squee! I think it just needs a few more ruffles. ;) Unfortunately we ran out of rooms in the house, so she's bunking in a corner of my bedroom. But that's okay. We'll prolly both get more sleep that way anyway. I told dh though, 2 years is my limit... then we need to either move or add on!
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