Swish - after I posted my totals yesterday I got into my chocolate fudge :suprise: I think once you cheat a little, it becomes easier to cheat more. I'm starting to think that if I have to do this diet another month (and I really, REALLY hope I don't), I might give myself one cheat day a week to eat what I want. I'm just so tired of the work involved in eating within this diet!
Me too, I'm thinking that if my attempt doesn't work this time I going to just do vegetarian and try to keep protein low but that's about it! Oh and I'll skip breakfast. I just can't go on like this, it's so depressing!!! Food can really affect your mood. Even though I've eaten loads more this cycle I haven't put on any weight, I'm really keeping my fx for us this time!!!!!!!
Btw, fudge is my favourite sweet treat!!!!
mocha and swish, I totally feel the same way. It is depressing to eat this way and for me it is especially depressing to feel unfree to just eat want I want when it comes up in my mind!
Now I´m going to give you girls some hope: I had a huge temp dip today, was worrying again about my cycle being crazy, but now I´ve looked at FF charts and it could have been an implantation dip..if my temp is up again tomorrow I´m going to test for fun, I have 10 cheap HPT so I can waste a couple :nails:
Good luck, indira!!!! Fx fir bfp!!!
Oooooo - good luck, Indira! We need some good news to keep morale up!
Swish - I just know you and I will get our BFPs this month...we HAVE to!!!
I have changed a few things and I'm trying to work out how to use less rephresh as I think this coupled with less vitex and sp will help, I hope so!!!!!
Sounds promising Indira, here's hoping! You too mocha! Where are you swish - are you waiting to O? I am officially having my last AF before our first attempt cycle. It's still around 6 weeks away but I feel really apprehensive. Not about my sway, but about ttc at all! I know I'll be fine once we're there but I've had so long to think of it and I'm usually a 'dive right in without thinking about it too much' kind of person.
Can I have some advice about licorice root for DH as I know some of yours' are using it? DH isn't keen on taking it and ideally I would have him try it out this cycle to see how the dosage affects him but I'm nervous of asking him because it would probably freak him out. If I wait until our attempt cycle and I hand him a couple of pills to take (aspirin and licorice root) before we DTD then that's probably going to go down a lot better. Do you think it's risky to not try it out until the month of our attempt even if I only give him 1 pill (half the dosage) and I make sure he tells me at the first sign that it might be getting in the way of frequent BDing so he can stop them? I can't imagine that 1 pill a day will affect him that much given the point we're starting from. Thoughts?
Sorry - had to finish that quickly as DH came and sat next to me! He knew I was writing about him because he commented on me calling him 'DH' but didn't read the content! I think I had pretty much finished anyway - just thinking something may be better than nothing!
I opted not to do licorice root since dh is very much not on board with swaying and quite honestly is not very happy with the decision to have a 4th to begin with. In fact, he thinks all these things I'm doing (such a frequent BD) are to maximise my chances of getting pregnant. If I told him we were actually trying to make it harder to get pregnant I'm sure he'd think I'd finally gone completely loopy and would opt out of the whole TTC thing completely.
So...a long way to say I can't help with any advice! :wink:
He, he, I'm always switching off when dh lingersover my shoulder!!! Af has just finished for me, so I'm waiting to ovulate and really hoping it happens around cd 18 as it used to as I would be in 2 ww whilst on holiday, this will allow me to enjoy my holiday more, plus my mum will be there for the first 3 days so it will be very hard to be strict if I ovulate at that time, fx!!!! I really don't think you need to worry about trying lr before attempt, something is better than nothing! Dh says he does notice a difference, in that he doesn't want to jump me every day!!!! But he still did frequent release with no problem at all. He is however worried that it will permanently affect his sex drive and is not sure if he wants to continue taking it after this attempt, having said that he doesn't want us to sway at all if we're not successful this time. Btw I can't believe you are 6 weeks away, it seemed like ages when you started, you're bound to be feeling apprehensive.
Lol swish - I think that's why DH is apprehensive too! Thanks both x
zancal- Just a note on the LR...my DH is taking it (one pill a day) and there haven't been any problems yet, but when we were ttc out third (baby we lost) he took two a day and had a little trouble preforming. Nothing that stopped us from frequent BD but it took a bit longer than usual :)
So, on to diet! I did much better today but my protein is high. I shouldn't have eaten chicken for dinner, I think I might go veggie from here on out...
8-coffee with skim milk
1130-pasta with butternut squash and goat cheese
3-yoplait yogurt
6-chicken (not very much), sweet potatoes, and watermelon
cal:880
pro: 45.3
fat: 18.6
sod: 569.3 mg
I think I might have something else later just because my calories are so low, but maybe not...
Mocha- I went back and looked at my food yesterday and the goat cheese is def a factor in my sodium so I need to cut back a bit, but I also added the cake twice, so once I removed it I was back in the range for sodium..I am glad you mentioned the goat cheese though, I was going overboard.
Here's today for me:
7am: coffee
12pm: roasted veggie and goat cheese quesadilla on sodium-free corn tortillas (it wasn't very good - the taste of the corn tortilla didn't go with the goat cheese), Sour Patch Kids
5pm: rice pasta with zucchini and leaks and parmesan, cantaloupe, WW carrot creme cake
8:30pm: Smart Pop butter-flavoured microwave popcorn, peach, raspberries and blueberries with a bit of whipped cream
Help! I can't stop eating! I was way under budget for sodium today, hence the popcorn as a treat...but in retrospect I wish I'd had something yummier since I don't even really like popcorn.
Calories: 1414
Protein: 39g
Sodium: 673mg
Sorry mocha but I laughed at that - isn't it annoying to waste precious calories on something which isn't very nice anyway, I hate that!
PinkPaisley - thanks for the tip with the licorice root. I really don't want things taking longer than they should - if I'm going to have to DTD every day then I want it to be as short and sweet as possible :D I'll definitely just give him 1 pill a day. Glad to have that sorted in my mind. You definitely need more calories, you must be starving!
I don't think I've lost much weight this week. I'm ok with that because I'm part way through AF and hopefully I'll get a bigger loss next week to make up for it. I am slightly worried that I won't have lost as much as I really need to by next month though.
Last night I told myself that I should restrict myself to weekends on here now because it was always my plan to step back and concentrate on other things as I got close to my attempt - well it's 8.30am and here I am :D However, if I do manage to sort myself out and do that then I may disappear for a few days - just in case anybody wonders where I am!
Have a good day everyone - I'm off work this week and my mum is coming over and we're taking the boys fruit picking. She's also bringing blueberry muffins she's made, so I'm trying to find an average nutritional content because it would seem very odd (and rude!) if I refused!
Lol, Zani! I tried to do this but here I am at 8:50!! I am more chilled this time but at the same tine I'm feeling like there's no hope of a bfp and even less of a little girlie! My sister and I were chatting yesterday, she doesn't know I'm swaying and she said it would be very unlikely for me to get a girl after 2 boys (this is what she has) as it would be too coincidental to get the same thing and I tend to agree :( she wasn't being unkind, she doesn't even know how much I want a dd.
{hugs} swish - almost everybody I know who had a third baby after 2 boys had a girl and that can't just be coincidence. Chin up :-) Now I really am going to go and get dressed!!
Thanks! :) Me too, this site is so addictive!!
swish - that would not be too much of a coincidence at all! TONS of people have a girl after 2 boys, and you're doing tons to sway, which really weighs the odds in your favour! We have to all try to think positively. A year from now we'll all be holding our little pink bundles of joy, I'm sure of it!
You all are doing so well!! PinkPaisley, that cake you ate wasn’t terrible! You’re doing a great job!!! Just try to get at least 1200 cals in if you can!
Z – that’s totally what I was going to do. The week before O, I was going to not log on at all and just try to get my mind off of swaying and just go on "autopilot". I planned to probably not even log on much in the 2ww as I drove myself crazy last time. Do what you need to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
I’m so sorry! It’s comments like that (especially the really innocent ones) that just gut me. You have every chance she had at having a girl and probably more since you’re actually swaying (and kicking butt!). XXXQuote:
Originally Posted by swish
For some reason, Swish, I had though you had already O’d and were a few days behind Mocha. Doh! I’m sending you lots of good vibes for this next attempt!
Where, oh, where is DM??? Are you on holiday, DM??? Thinking about you and missing you!
OK…Who are our ladies waiting to test? Mocha and Indira? Indira, I’m so excited for you!!! How many dpo were you when you saw the dip? If your temp is up, I say test away, sister! How many dpo are you, Mocha? I’m really hoping this is it for both of you. I can’t wait to get this WHOLE group over to the preg side!
Thanks for all the kind words regarding my surprise. My emotions have been a rollercoaster and now I’m starting to mellow out, thankfully. On the food front, I thought I’d be way more excited than I am. Food just seems like food and my stomach has shrunk. I am eating whatever/whenever I want but I’m honestly not even hungry and just want to eat salads and strawberries.
I'm 4dpo and feeling really nauseous. I'm planning to test on Saturday (9dpo) or Sunday (10dpo).
BTW, swish - I forgot to mention that my brother makes insensitive comments all the time about how he's SURE if I have another baby it'll be a boy...and he knows how desperately I want a girl.
YAY!!! 4dpo!!! I would definitely wait until the weekend (Sunday if you can). :luck:!!!!!
Errrrrrr....:mad: My mom was making those comments last year but w/her I think it was b/c she didn't want us to have more than 2 kids (b/c she did so she thinks that's best for everyone...so annoying!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
I've decided that it would be far more of a challenge to me to not log in so much - not good for my testosterone at all :D Perhaps I'll find a happy medium!
Yeah...I probably wouldn't have made it either, lol! You'll be fine!
So true! I also tried to stay away around my attempt, but I wasn´t able to resist :happy:Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
OOTB according to FF it was 6dpo when I had the implantation dip.
My temp was back up today.
So..I just tested, it is negative, BUT on the side I see a purple dot where (I think) the testline would appear...:think: I think I could eat a normal dinner today-but I´m scared!:nails:
So exciting!!! The timing of the dip sounds really promising! I think it can take up to about 48 hrs to get some sort of + after implantation. You may be able to get a really faint one tomorrow. Oh, I'm giddy w/excitement for you!!! :running::fingers::cheer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Indira
Thank you! I know 7 dpo is too early to test but I really really really want to eat normally (especially for the bean if it´s in nythere) so I didn´t want to miss a change lol. Will test again tomorrow morning..
Thank you for all your encouragement, ladies!!! It's so hard to believe I will be one of the people saying 'my sway worked!!!', positivity isn't my strong point, I'm more of a think the more realistic option and if the other happens I'll be delighted!!!
Indira, sooooo excited for you, I really hope this is it!!
Mocha, you have very promising symptoms too, fx!!
Ootb, salad and strawberries - no, no, no!!!!! You HAVE to eat for the rest of us!!! Seriously, I saw a few girls on ingender that didn't fancy the food they used to eat when pregnant and ended up having.....a girl!!!
Today so far..
No breakfast
Lunch jam sandwich, go ahead bar, apple and cinnamon rice cakes
Very low on everything as I'm eating out with friends tonight, I phoned the restaurant to ask about low sodium food, they said they could make me a salt free pasta Sauce from scratch but I can't work out how to do it without making a show in front of everyone, think I'll just go for the pasta/ tomato option, should be ok as I've only had 110mg sodium today
so lots left in the budget!!
Zani, that is very good point about being more challenging not to log on!!! I have bought myself 3 new books so really trying to do the chilling thing, I would normally never do that unless on holiday. The week of ov is just before my holiday and I'll be in my 'super organised' element, might have to let everything be chaos!!!! Now that would be a challenge...
I'm sure the pasta with tomato sauce will be fine. I always figure it's better to go over with sodium rather than protein anyway.
Where are you going on holiday swish? My goodness going through an airport and on a flight with 3 children would have my testosterone blowing out of my ears! Good job you'll already be in your 2ww :D I'm sure the food will be fine tonight, sodium probably matters least.
Ugh, this year has been the year of disgusting firsts for our family. First DS1 brought home headlice from school (several times) and just when I'm finally not freaked out by that DS2 has threadworms! I feel awful for him because I saw them and said 'oh you've got worms' whereas it may have been better just to call it an infection or something so as not to freak him out. Needless to say he IS freaked out and DS1 is scared of him getting too near too. It is truly gross and I'm waiting for DH to come home with the medicine and am busy washing all our bedding and towels etc. I discovered this this afternoon and this morning we went fruit picking - I dread to think of what might have exchanged hands there!
Now on to food (funny, not that hungry right now!):
Lunch: Mum's homemade blueberry muffin, raspberries and blackberries, light squirty cream. Velvet Crunch (these are a bit like rice cakes but are made from tapioca and cassava, whatever that is!) - very low in everything and a yummy cheese & onion flavour.
Dinner: Innocent aubergine vegetable pot (very nice and probably way too healthy!), 2 mini pittas. ww ice cream sundae.
Snack: Haven't decided yet!
I'm really feeling fed up (or not fed enough, I should say) by this diet today. Here's what I ate:
7am: coffee
12:30pm: 1 slice of WW bread folded around one thin slice of low fat cheese with the teeniest smudge of low fat mayo. I finished this and my stomach was still growling like I hadn't eaten anything (the WW bread is tiny and thin, so I pretty much HADN'T had anything). I also had 2 peaches, a tiny bit of blueberry fudge (which, thankfully, is almost gone) and some sherbet, but was still starved.
5:30pm: 2 servings of rice pasta with 1/2 cup low sodium pasta sauce mixed with 1/2 cup no salt added tomato sauce, mixed with 1/2 cup frozen roasted veggies (a great shortcut product I found recently, with only 5mg of sodium!) + 30g of parmesan. It was really tasty and substantial, but I was still starved. I also had one piece of bocconcini from ds's salad and a Pop Tart for dessert.
Snack: I'm maxed out for protein for the day, so my options are limited. I think I'll have some Sour Patch Kids and maybe some of those little yellow plums.
Calories: 1557
Protein: 43g (but I've decided to try not to count protein from fruit and other low sources, as atomic suggested, which would actually bring my total to under 40g)
Sodium: 1009 (yes, I went over today - I don't do that often unless I cheat - I guess it was the Pop Tart that brought me over the edge today)
I need to rant. I am sooooo sick of following a diet where having one tiny piece of white bread with a paper-thin slice of cheese can blow almost half of my protein budget for the day. When I finished my lunch, including dessert, I'd eaten only about 200 calories, but had consumed enough protein and sodium to make me worry about what I was going to have for dinner while staying within the guidelines. I'm HUNGRY all the time - I don't think my stomach stopped crumbling for even one minute today, even immediately after meals (and yes, I'm hoping this is a pregnancy symptom)!! I want to eat without having to calculate everything, and most of all I want CHEESE...lots and lots of CHEESE!!!
Ok, rant over...I feel much better now.:oops:
That's me right now, actually...Don't know if it's the protein I'm craving or what but I want it. I was also craving cheese for the last few weeks as well so I started adding goat cheese to my salads since it's usually low in sodium (but high in fat...:gloomy:). I am really hoping this is a symptom for you and I've got my FX for Indira too!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
{hugs} mocha, I really really hope that the hunger is a pregnancy symptom and that you can start eating properly soon. I'm sure I'll get fed up very quickly once we're actually trying because then I'll just want to be pregnant and done.
I fancy cheese too, in fact I'm just going to have pasta and cheese for dinner!
I forgot to say that I lose 1.5lb this week - disappointed but not really because I know it's not possible to lose 3 or 4 lbs each week indefinitely! That's 26.5lb now and I hope I can lose at least another 10lb before our attempt.
Today I had:
Lunch: Bagel with Flora light and sugar free jam. Velvet Crunch crisp thingies. Mr Kipling raspberry slice.
Dinner: Rice pasta (aka cardboard!) with Flora light and parmesan. Viennese whirl. 2 Fox's Glacier Fruits.
Snack: Don't know if I'll bother, maybe some sweets or a lolly!
I really have become the Queen of eating crap! I have ulcers all over my tongue which I had when I was a teenager and I only seem to get back when I'm run down. Ouch.
I know what you mean about the rice pasta - it's soooo bland! I find that when I splurge and have real pasta I can eat it with almost nothing on it, because I feel like the pasta itself has taste!
That's great!!! When I was losing weight last summer, I'd lose hardly anything one week and then BAM... 3-4lbs gone almost overnight. I doesn't come off evenly as one would expect. Keep it up! I'm so excited for when it's time for you to TTC!Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
Completely agree about the gf pasta, I've struggled to eat it since I had that bug. I have found the one in a black packet (sainsburys do it) is the best and the shells are the nicest. Zani, I think the weight loss is still good, at least it's still going down!! Mocha, I know how yo feel about the diet but hopefully you're on the home stretch!!! Ootb, it's great you're still on this thread!! Hope you're feeling ok at the moment. Today I had...
No breakfast
Lunch toast and jam, go ahead bar, strawberries with meringue
Dinner risotto with mushrooms and courgettes, strawberries, frozen yogurt (yea valley do a new organic strawberry frozen yogurt, it is really yummy and has no sodium and low protein)
also had lots of tutti frooties again!
Helllloooo Everyone!! I've missed you all!!!
I've had a really hard time getting online the past week as I've had so many things to do! I threw a hug BBQ for my Dh's 40th birthday on Sat., a friends BBQ on Sun, we just bought a new van so we've been cleaning out the truck and exchanging everything over to the van...the kids are sick, I've been cleaning the house....the list is endless...oh and I'm getting ready for a huge wedding this weekend- and I have to make the "mini" head tables cake and 125 cupcakes! It's going to be nuts this week.
Anyway, first of all CONGRATULATIONS BLUE!!!!! I'm so freaking excited for you Hun!!!! I cannot believe that you got preggo with a 7 day cut-off!!!!! Holy shnikeys! Praying that it's your sweet little girl:) :HH:
Hi Swish! I'm totally interested in switching over to this type of diet...because I'm becoming obsessed and then some days I just totally say "screw it" and cheat all day :( Not a good combo. I need something more doable. I hope that this month is your month Mama!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by swish
Fingers crossed for you Girl!!!! Woohoo! Sending pink thoughts your way!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Indira
Thank you :) Mwa :HH:Quote:
Originally Posted by Out of the Blue
OMG I'm so excited about the potential BFP's we have here!!! Oh and I'm so sorry about all the insensitive comments, Mama:( So awful to have to listen to :gloomy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Z- It's so exciting that your turn is fast approaching!!! You've done so well Z! Try not to worry and just focus on your little PINK eggy being made:) Oh and YECH! about the worm and head lice!!! Oh the joys of being a Mom.
Well, I have some more news....I don't think I can explain it as well as my chart can...just take a look if you don't mind- it's in my siggy. I'm a tad bit pissed right now. ~Sigh~
Talk soon, Girls!
11am this am
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1pm this afternoon
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That's a + opk right?:think: :nails: :hair: :tissue:
:holysheep::holysheep::holysheep:
Oh my lawdy - I don't know what to say!! What's going on around here?! That's a 2 day cut-off right - on a wonky cycle month and you're on the diet and you may not be pregnant (but surely you will be as it's in the cyber-water around here!). Eeeeeeek!!!!