Yeah! That's the thing - there are things that go along WITH testosterone (going up or going down) that respond to the sorts of lifestyle/diet changes that we do on LE Diet and so I just think we have to acknowledge that we know absolutely nothing. People have put out these theories (and trust me on this guys, there is such scanty evidence that none of the "specific" theories are in any way proven - not testosterone or other hormones and not blood sugar either and certianly not pH, ions, etc) and swayers get so caught up in them and assuming that they're true, when we just don't even KNOW that.