Starting every 4 day bd

I almost never get true positives and O late so I hate OPKs too! Plus I don't get much progression/warning often, and none with most brands.

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Originally Posted by maidentomother

I almost never get true positives and O late so I hate OPKs too! Plus I don't get much progression/warning often, and none with most brands.

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I can relate!!! So taking the least stressful approach this month.

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Originally Posted by Threelittlemen2013

I know we should start this pattern right after af, but I typically spot for 1-2 days after my normal flow. Would I wait to start until the spotting is gone or just the normal flow? Thanks!

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Makes no difference, whenever YOU are comfy. Some people don't like DTD when there's any spotting, others don't care.

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Originally Posted by Bobster

I have no idea sorry. Just wanted to chime in and ask someone if they know the reason why every 4 days is meant to sway pink? Hope someone answers your question soon :)

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It isn't meant to sway pink. It is just an effortless way (without having to worry about OPK or guesswork about when you may O) of getting in regular attempts so it ends up being often enough to conceive, but still equates to roughly one attempt in the fertile window (because anything before will have all died off, anything after, the egg would be either fertilized or dead)

We don't know why one attempt sways pink, only that it DOES.

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Originally Posted by Bobster

I get you thanks XX. Wouldn't the sperm still be of good quality though after 4 days? If you are certain when you O is it better to do one attempt at positive opk with a 7 day abstain instead?

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Yes, but you guys have got to realize that the whole thing with the frequency patterns (with the exception of abstain which is old leftover Shettles stuff), I MADE UP 4 years ago. Based on the info available info at the time which seemed to indicate sperm numbers swayed pink somehow, we guessed that frequency was probably swaying and I came up with those patterns to try and capitalize on that. But it hasn't worked. They do prob. sway pink a little bit but they lower odds of conception so much that tons of people had to drop them just to get pg at all,a nd then the results were not as high as I would want to see for the trouble they cause. In fact, it became apparent that it was number of attempts that were swaying and not frequency (at least not in any reliable way) and so it is time for frequency to give way to one attempt and getting pg with that, instead of keeping frequency in the mix for NO REASON and then having people add attempts to up odds of conception IT DOESN'T WORK.

Since we started to move away from frequency, our numbers have done nothing but improve. Cut the stuff that isn't working, do what works, and get pg fast before diet stops ovulation. :agree:

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Originally Posted by maidentomother

What XX said. I'd start whenever you're comfortable. I personally like BD during AF so I'd start as soon as my cramps abate.

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Sorry for TMI but I do too! I always hesitate to mention that :oops: but it's something that is part of my repertoire LOL. So if you are weird like me you can actually start BD BEFORE AF is over with if that's the way you roll. :)

Lol Ya for me, that's like the ou time I seem to have a sex drive lol!!!


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I'm horny during AF and everything feels more sensitive down there, I presume from the blood flow. None of my partners ever minded either. Luckily my periods are light especially after CD1 the day of cramps, and I've noticed I actually stop bleeding temporarily during BD, so it's not even that messy. I've found orgasms help my cramps too, even if just briefly.

The only time I don't have much libido is just after AF, around CD5-8 most cycles, when I'm at my dryest. Rrwally my only dry time.

Yep it's mind over matter - if you don't mind shouldn't matter and Ya I've found very seldom that there is a mess to deal with


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