what is the BEST way to lower testosterone?

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Originally Posted by lindi

does licorice root sway blue in women SOLELY because of the higher CM? What is the mechanism behind it swaying blue? Licorice and Peony have been used as a fertility treatment, AND it lowers testosterone and raises progesterone. If CM is the only thing to worry about, maybe sudafed taken with an attempt would be enough to counterbalance it? From everything I am reading, it seems like the hormones have way more impact than CM- esp with the all the stuff I am reading about eggs being "primed" with testosterone for Y sperm. In that case, I'd LOVE to have eggs primed for X sperm and tons of CM.

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Some evidence indicates that higher estrogen in women = more boys. I feel that the evidence in favor of testosterone = more boys is a LOT more compelling, but without more information, I don't think I can recommend licorice root for DW because of that. I would certainly be willing to play around with it and see what happened though, esp. if you were to take an antihistamine (or Sudafed, but I think Sudafed causes too many side effects). Also, and this is by no means scientific obviously, but everything that seems to make you more fertile, seems to sway blue. So if licorice is being included in a fertility treatment, I would be wary of it for that reason alone.

The evidence suggests that CM sways pink REGARDLESS of hormones. Believe it or not, Clomid actually RAISES testosterone (bodybuilders take it) but it creates hostile CM and has been proven to sway pink. To me this indicates that hostile mucus ALONE has the potential to sway pink regardless of what your hormones are doing.

I can't hang my hat on the idea that eggs are primed to receive X or Y just yet. I haven't seen enough evidence that this is true and I HAVE seen some evidence to the contrary (eggs fertilized via IVF yield roughly equal numbers boys and girls in most instances). For now, I have to stick with the idea that something in the environment is weeding out or creating a climate in which X or Y sperm have a greater chance of success.

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Originally Posted by twatwaffle

I would be really interested in the accupuncture, actually. My family doctor is a medical accupuncturist too and I have been wanting him to stick me with those needles to help with weight loss...LOL! I am going to ask him very soon. My doctors do not believe I need anything for my PCOS because I have it under control. I couldn't get a drug if I begged. Not even clomid. Boo!

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Hmmm...that's interesting!! Have you ever asked him about lowering your testosterone through acupuncture?? I'd be interested to know what he says.

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Originally Posted by xnicolax

If losing weight is the best thing to lower testosterone, what if you have already lost weight and dont want to lose anymore? I was overweight after DS3 and lost it all before DS4. I had actually lost too much before I got PG with him and had relaxed a little. Now after xmas I could maybe do with losing a few pounds but I really dont have much to lose? Would saw palmetto be enough?

Im not going to be trying until summer.

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BEST in the sense that we KNOW it works and it is safe.

I would def. try to be at my thinnest when conceiving if I could, but if you can't, it's not a make or break thing. Try the saw palmetto and see how it works for you. It may very well be the case that the reason why lower testosterone sways pink to begin with, is because it dries up your CM, reduces your sex drive (less CM as well). So if you focus on reducing that CM through antihistamines and wash any excess away with douching, even if you're not able to lose any more weight, you're still accomplishing the same goal.

Does the 60 min. of exercise need to be done all at once during the day or could it be broken down into 2-30 min. intervals?

I'm a little depressed about this too since I am already on the low end of healthy weight, but was told a few years ago I had high testosterone. It's really making me think trying to sway pink is hopeless after the reading I've done. I don't think my doctor would test my testosterone under the premises of trying to conceive a girl since i get pregnant very easily, and therefor I am not a fertility patient. But I want the have even lower than normal testosterone- is this even possible? I'm convinced super low testosterone and glucose is the best scientific way to sway pink.

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

I can't hang my hat on the idea that eggs are primed to receive X or Y just yet. I haven't seen enough evidence that this is true and I HAVE seen some evidence to the contrary (eggs fertilized via IVF yield roughly equal numbers boys and girls in most instances). For now, I have to stick with the idea that something in the environment is weeding out or creating a climate in which X or Y sperm have a greater chance of success.

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Sorry just saw this! - Maybe the IVF is equal because the eggs have been removed from the environment? Maybe within the fallopian tube, testosterone has some impact on the egg once it's released? But that evidence makes me feel a LOT better. Then why all the statistics about dominant women having more boys? I was thinking if there is a correspondence between high testosterone=apple shaped body, then eventually women with apple shaped bodies would cease to exist because they would just produce boys? You could then say, no it would be the boys whose mothers had apple shapes choosing pear shaped women who had girls who were apple shaped because of their fathers, but in my case, my Dad's mother was very pear, and my mom is pretty apple. I only know I'm more apple shaped even though I'm very thin because the ONLY places I collect any fat are the backs of my arms and my abdomen. There is some mechanism going on with testosterone and I want to overcome it...

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Hmmm...that's interesting!! Have you ever asked him about lowering your testosterone through acupuncture?? I'd be interested to know what he says.

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I have not...but I will! I'm curious what he has to say! I'll let you know!

If you can get your levels tested and if they show that they are elevated you can actually go on Spironolactone which is a light diuretic. I am on it now and it is used to lower my testosterone levels. The only problem...you can't take it when trying to get pregnant so it is a moot point anyway. LOL! Just thought I would throw that out there for anyone who is not TTC on a TTC forum. :D:D:D:D:D :P

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Originally Posted by michaela

If you can get your levels tested and if they show that they are elevated you can actually go on Spironolactone which is a light diuretic. I am on it now and it is used to lower my testosterone levels. The only problem...you can't take it when trying to get pregnant so it is a moot point anyway. LOL! Just thought I would throw that out there for anyone who is not TTC on a TTC forum. :D:D:D:D:D :P

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Thank you Michaela, that might actually be very helpful for people because testosterone can take awhile to go down OR back up. So if you were on Spironolactone for awhile and then went off of it, your levels would stay lower for awhile before your body readjusted.

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Originally Posted by lindi

Sorry just saw this! - Maybe the IVF is equal because the eggs have been removed from the environment? Maybe within the fallopian tube, testosterone has some impact on the egg once it's released? But that evidence makes me feel a LOT better. Then why all the statistics about dominant women having more boys? I was thinking if there is a correspondence between high testosterone=apple shaped body, then eventually women with apple shaped bodies would cease to exist because they would just produce boys? You could then say, no it would be the boys whose mothers had apple shapes choosing pear shaped women who had girls who were apple shaped because of their fathers, but in my case, my Dad's mother was very pear, and my mom is pretty apple. I only know I'm more apple shaped even though I'm very thin because the ONLY places I collect any fat are the backs of my arms and my abdomen. There is some mechanism going on with testosterone and I want to overcome it...

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Yes, some of us have gone over the whole apple/pear thing and there is just so much of a genetic component involved, that you cannot use that as any kind of yardstick to measure testosterone, really. I"m a pear and have 4 boys and DEF. high testosterone by personality.