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I hope all your dreams come true, ladies!!!
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...with-multiples...
Here's an interesting thread about FF charts that went onto conceive multiples.
Anyone heard about the use of acupuncture to stimulate ovaries for conceiving twins? Would it sway either way?
I have never heard of that, but doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility! I think accupuncture is great for fertility either way, so I say go for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy
And after reading Atomic's first post, I realize I am in HUGE twinning realm right now, especially with Clomid. And I do agree with Pack's assesment...that is what my doc told me before she gave me the Clomid scrip...she said just so you know, it is not easy and very risky to have twins, so don't hope for that, but you only have a 10% chance of twins on Clomid. Slightly higher if you ov on your own (which I do).
what I have read is that it isnt really that hard to get your body to hyperovulate especially if you have no issues ovulating on your own, the hard part is getting both eggs fertilized and implanted, several people might hyperovulate but only one egg fertilizes and implants, or one egg quality isnt very good so they both implant and with early u/s show your pregnant with twins and then m/c one(most the time its absorb back into the body with no bleeding) and next u/s there is just one(aka vanishing twin)
okay I am kind of rethinking the soy isoflavones and then vitex, I am wondering if I take SI on cd2 thru cd6 then on cd7 start vitex if I will cause my body not to hyperovulate(as in cancel each other out), or once the process of releasing more than one egg is started it cant be stopped from vitex? (all assuming that SI works in causing me to hyperovulate) so si causes me to start to ripen more than one egg to be released and then I start the vitex which is to normal everything out so I was wondering if it might slow down egg maturity and then causing me to release just one egg?
This makes total sense. Thanks for posting!Quote:
Originally Posted by melinda
TBH I don't know enough about how acupuncture really works to say for certain, but my gut tells me that increasing fertility sways blue, so I would be a little wary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassy
You might want to ask your acupuncturist (sp??) if stimulating the ovaries is good for fertility overall, or what.
Plus, with twins you also have the issue of placenta previa, which is much more common with twins for some reason. That is what happened with me, one twin implanted right on the cervix and there are not enough blood vessels there to sustain a pg.Quote:
Originally Posted by melinda
I would take the vitex every day from AF-O, otherwise it's not going to be doing anything for you. I don't think it has anything to do with how many eggs are released.Quote:
Originally Posted by melinda
If you read the following essay http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...-girl-or-a-boy! there are directions in it for taking the soy on different cycle days that will make it more or less likely that only one egg will be released.
Yeah the earlier in cycle means more eggs but not very good egg quality, so I didn't want to do cd1 thru 5, and cd3 thru 7 didn't sound so promising the very few that claims si gave them twins took it on cd1-5 and 2-6, so I chose cd2-6 because its a little better egg quality than 1-5, but want vitex because it sways girls, so 2-6 si and then 7 thru O vitex I just didn't want vitex to cancel out more eggs being released(assuming si works) I have been taking vitex since I m/c on july 17th to get my system back in order faster to start ttcing next cycle, so I am thinking to not do vitex next cycle and then just do si (I know probably won't get twins lol I just wanted to give it a try :) )
That may be a great plan, I know of one lady who did exactly that (took vitex nonstop for a few months and then stopped it all together and did soy instead) and did conceive a baby girl.
Be careful what you wish for, ladies. I swayed for twins (not realizing it - we happen to eat alot of sweet potatos and yams that month) and I ended up with a highly complicated triplet pregnancy and lost two of them...I am still overcoming my depression and have major GD because I can't help feeling I lost my girls.
I'm sorry. :(
I did read on another post though that you had identical twins which are often a much more complicated and dangerous situation. These tips will help people conceive fraternal twins, which are def. higher risk than singleton pregnancies and no one should TTC twins lightly of course, but not as high-risk as identical twins can be.
I hope that is not hurtful for you to read and again I am SO sorry for your losses, I just want to have accurate info for everyone.
Twins can def. be a high risk situation to be sure.
Totally know where you are coming from...I just wanted to share "the other side." My situation was very, very rare.
I'm so sorry. That is just heartbreaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by onehealthybaby
I took soy with my last attempt, got no twins and a boy :)
I don't like this more +opk days +twins thing. I had 3 days + this month and got some twin predictions from different readers.
ummm can I just get 1 healthy baby boy plz? lol that is if I ever get a bfp ...I have this month and DH says maybe next but we maybe done.
Thank you, I totally appreciate having all the info for everyone here.:sadflwr:Quote:
Originally Posted by onehealthybaby
I know flava, right??? We need the "I just want to get ONE of my DG!!" supplements!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flava
So sorry to hear that :(Quote:
Originally Posted by onehealthybaby
would i make you all upset if i asked if there was a way to avoid not having twins, if you have some of those factors?! :hide:
you see, i have them. I LOOOOOOVE THEM. but one set is enough. :)
my twins came at 32 weeks. i went into PTL at 28 weeks. was on bedrest for a month.
praise God they are 100% healthy - spent 4 weeks in the NICU as "feeder/growers" - but it was still so challenging!
i'm aware my chances will be much higher since I need to do follistim, and that i am taking vitex (AS, i've been taking 2 pills, 2x/day per bottle instructions - is that too much?!)
would you, AS, (knowing some HT stuff) suggest that I only continue with a cycle if there is 1 egg that is released? I mean, i've read that some people release like 4 and dont get pregnant at all...but i seem to be able to get pregnant quickly, just am unable to ovulate on my own.
thoughts, if any?!
No, not at all! I think that's a fine question four!! We should always keep in mind that twins are a lot riskier than single pregnancies and happy endings don't happen for everyone. Even when they do, it's tough!!
The problem is, none of the things (aside from Clomid) that I mentioned in that essay are terribly effective. Esp. when you're dealing with HT drugs - they are so strong that they can overcome most everything. We've had tons of ladies on vitex and the only twins we've had have been in a couple people on Clomid, and then a set of ID twins (Vitex can only cause fraternal twinning, not ID) I would not have you stop the vitex, I think it can help you both with ovulating and with your sway.
I think you should still continue with the cycle even if you have more than one follie, simply because I've seen so many failed IUI cycles with 3 and 4 cycles. Just because it happened for you guys once, there's no guarantee it will happen again (both on getting pregnant easily, and also the twinning.) I understand the temptation and it's your call to make - I'm not sure how badly you want to avoid twins and also how big a hurry you're in to conceive.
What I would do is avoid full fat dairy and stick to a lower dose folic acid (800 rather than higher) until after your BFP.
Thanks AS. I don't think I really eat any full fat dairy. I might have a cup of 1% milk in a smoothie from time to time - but my cheese is always reduced fat, and the yogurt i eat is nonfat. Haven't eaten much ice-cream lately at all - but I know to stick to frozen yogurt.
I actually have only been doing 800mg of folic acid, so that's good to know.
I'm not in a huge hurry to conceive...but the ups and downs are very hard, so I could see me get antsy after a few months.
That being said, I really don't want twins again.... Oh my poor body!! haha.
Lets put it this way - I think I'd rather have a singleton son than twin girls.
And that's saying a lot!
I will of course, explain my concern for twinning to my RE and hopefully she will be able to help me decide what to do.
I'm sure they could put me on a lower dosage this go around. Especially since they have a history with me and know what they did the first time. A reference point is always good.
I was super excited to get pregnant the last time and thought twins would be fun!
When i found out it was two, I giggled for a few days as we told everyone, but then panic set in! haha
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger! (...and quite a bit heavier... :highfive:)
A friend of mine did follistim with TI just after I had my twins and had only one follie and got preg the first time.
She's got a mild case of PCOS and her hubby checks out fine -so it gives me a little hope! :)
speaking of my twins...they're both in their cribs screaming.
g2g!
thanks again, as always.
Good idea - your RE will def. be able to tweak things and give you advice regarding number of follicles!!
Hang in there, Mama!!
I would LOVE twins. How fun would that be? Pregnancy has always been the least fun part for me, so two babies in one shot would be AWESOME!
I must admit twins are tempting especially since we believe I had twins with my first pregnancy it was never confirmed. We just couldn't explain my m/c type bleeding at 12 weeks and additional sac in my uterus when I delivered. There were a LOT of strange circumstances surrounding that pregnancy. At any rate I come from a family of twins (runs on both sides). Ironically my best friend just found out she is pregnant with twins! I will be happy if I just get my baby girl this go round.
Praying4Pink, if you had a m/c type bleeding at 12 weeks and an extra sac then you almost certainly were carrying twins. That's almost exactly what happened to me in my 4th pg - I had what I thought was AF, totally normal, even a bit heavier than normal, and then swayed for several weeks taking supps and doing a strict diet and thought I got pg the next month. I was actually pg the entire time with my surviving son (which is why I always stress to everyone to take a pregnancy test even if they are 100% sure they're not pg). I had two placentas and only one sac, but the doctor explained that the sac may have been there and then passed with the baby.
The twin's placenta was right on my cervix and it was about 2/3 the size and much darker and rattier-looking than my son's placenta which was big and healthy and normal looking. There was a tiny hole between the two that he had just barely managed to pass through - I was really lucky that I didn't have to have a c-section. Even when the twin pregnancy doesn't work out, it can still cause a high risk situation unfortunately.
Atomic, the body is so strange! I mean deep down I really do believe that I had twins in there but we will never know now. The bleeding at 12 weeks was so bad I ended up in the emergency room. Not to give you TMI...but it was a gush and it never stopped until a day or so later. At that point, I just wanted the one that I KNEW was in there to be fine. It is very important to take pregnancy tests though...I am a POAS-aholic! You just never know...
On another note I see that you are almost there! 62 days is not long at all. So exciting!!
Thanks! It feels like an eternity! :)
I know! I remember from my first...Hope I will be able to join you in preggo-ville soon!
Hi Atomic
We so appreciate your information on this site and the old one :) Do you know the sex of this new baby coming to you? Also I looked up vitex on amazon and it seems there are several different kinds. I am breastfeeding my 9 month old and still no ppaf and hoping it will help her to return. I just turned 39 so the clock is ticking. She just started sttn so hoping that will help her return. I also have a short lp and took b6 when ttc my daughter. Would love twins so if it helped then fantastic but not taking it for that reason....
Hi Stephiel!
Yes, I am having a baby girl! You can read my sway here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-...fo-3-25-a.html
There are several different brands of Vitex on Amazon but they should all be mostly the same stuff - Vitex agnus-castus/chasteberry. Most commonly sold in 400 mg pills and you can take 800-1200 mg a day.
Question - are you trying for girls again?? That's absolutely wonderful if you are, I just wanted to doublecheck you weren't thinking of swaying blue, because Vitex is thought to sway pink.
I got one set of twins while taking Vitex (one passed away soon after conception) so it worked for me.
Oh my gosh I am so excited for you :) I have been reading your posts for years now and really really am happy that you are getting your girl. So so excited for you and she's a lucky girl to get big brothers! I swayed last time but after months of trying to get pregnant unsuccessfully I just did anything to get pregnant (also did an hsg test the month we got pregnant). I'm not sure if swaying made it more difficult for me or not but probably played a factor in it. Anyway, I would love to have another girl and then I'd hope and beg my hubby if we could adopt a boy but i'm not too hopeful that will happen. Not going to sway at all as I would be thrilled with either and just hoping to be blessed with another baby sooner than later :) If I got healthy twins I'd be in hog heaven! I actually just strted spotting since I wrote this am so hoping that this is real af. I will order vitex from amazon. Thanks as always for your amaazing reports, support and research!!
Thanks and good luck! Please let me know if I can do anything to help you.
Y'all are crazy wanting twins! They're wonderful but omg those first few months were really really really rough. We got pregnant right after a miscarriage so that also ups your odds! Being over 35 and tall makes me nervous because I would freak out slightly if I had them again!
I have always wanted twins with my first 3 children but now it would freak me out going from 3-5 and also workwise it just wouldnt work for me as I am limited on numbers as a care practitioner and can only have 1 of my own under age 5 at any one time. I am not sure how on earth I would cope now either - 1 baby waking in the night would send me to mental ville let alone 2 at different times and bing self employed my hubby wouldnt get time off and be able to help and we have no family close enough by to help and those we do have work full time and live hours away so id literally be alone with 5 children and 2 that were newborns - i think it would kill me !!!
I actually think id laugh if they told me at a scan it was twins - id then probably cry and dh would probably top himself from the stress and worry !!!
Just wish id found this site years ago when having ds 2 and 3 as never even knew about swaying or trying for twins until i saw this !!
Wooowww atomic congrats! This is a real motivation that I should not give up swaying. I have been away from this forum for a few months due to hectic workload and I dont want to freely browse gender selection forums at my work desk loll... So for some reason today I feel like I miss this forum so much and decided to refresh my mind about Girl swaying elements and there you go I found out that you are having a girl!! instantly i felt like GOd is truly kind :)
Wishing you a smooth birth and healthy baby girl.
Thank you lovey!! Nice to "see" you again! :)
I just wanted to add about the yam cassava, that the tribe in question was quite small and more closely related, so the twin gene was being passed on more. It would only take one woman woth the twin gene to have 4 daughters who each had 4 daughters to make the twin gene quite common amongst the tribe. I've seen expensive sites specialising in the miracle cassava promising massive success rates!! The vitex sounds promising:agree: