UK SMOG wannabes August 2012

Indigo ~ I came online hoping for baby news :P Hope you dont have to wait much longer now! I really can't wait to see some baby pics :D

Wishing ~ Congrats on your bfp!!! what great news!! when is your due date?

Dreamofpink ~ welcome!! :)

Hi to everyone else!! I hope you are all busy enjoying your babies and summer holidays :) DD has definitely learned to crawl now as well as getting into a sitting position :) we're going for Ds2's hearing test on wednesday next week, hopefully get some answers xx

Feel terrible that i haven't been online for ages, but i guess we're all in the same boat keeping our kiddywinks busy over the summer! Went to a wildlife park today which was fun but been having lots of low down heavy feelings and now a bit of stomach cramping so think i need to have an easy day tomorrow and stop rushing around so much. Will try and catch up with posts when ds2 naps after lunch. Much love X

Hi girls, welcome newbies :-)))

I know what you mean about being busy witht the kids! lol, its finding things to do that dont cost the earth!!

Sunset, good luck for your sons hearing test, ds1 had his and he has been fitted for a hearing aid in one ear!! Hes borderline as to wether he needs one so it may make it worse as they tend to pick up lots of extra noise, so we will see!

Ds3 fell off the bed this morning, i feel awful :-( i almost caught him but didnt quite make it, so he's got a nice red bump on his forehead poor liitle boy.

Deaks, take things easy hun!! rest when you can x

Babymad, hows life with 4 kids? does the 4th just kind of fit in? my ds3 is so easy at the moment, such a good boy! he levels my sanity with the older two bickering all day!!!

Kell, ah poor little boy, i cant really think what to suggest to help, been so long since ive done the whole potty training bit lol, what about a reward chart and he gets to pick a treat at the end of the week?

Hope you are all enjoying the hols, big hugs to you all x

So he finally arrived! Yesterday afternoon. Had mild contractions most of the morning and then by 2ish told DH he better not go into work. Another hour called hosp and made our way there, he was born less than an hour after we arrived. I was only 4cms dilated when they first checked me so going to 10 so quickly felt like being hit by a bus! I was begging for an epidural but there wasn't time. I'm glad I *thought* I was going to have one though as it got me through most of the hour. He is lovely of course, just realising how demanding the feeding is though, he just won't stop!
Will try to post a pic soon, loads of love to you all :HH:

Hooray! Congratulations Indigo, so glad he's here safe and sound! Are you home now? Just remember it's only for a few days until your milk comes in and the more he feeds the quicker your body will get the message! Take care and congratulations again <3 xx

Congratulations again :) do pleased he's finally here!

Indigo- yay! Yay! Yay! Enjoy your little wee man!!!! I'm so wanting a newborn soooooo yummy!!! So happy for u! Can't wait to see a pic

Congrats Indigo!!!! bet the big boys are enjoying their new little brother :-) Wow your birth so similar to mine (length wise) took me ages to get to 3cm then 2 hours later he was out lol, must be these 3rd babies lol x x x

Indigo- came to check if there is any pic for us! How are you doing?

Hi everyone else. I'm doing good. This cycle seems so long. Cd7 today seems like forever till I'm even in the dreaded 2 WW!

Wow indigo, what a great fast birth! Hope mine goes like that even though im sure that hour of intense pain felt like about 5!! Hope the feeding sorts itself out.

Been loving the weather today. It was just too hot over the weekend for pregnancy (and im sure too much for lots of the little bubs in our group too). Today has been breezy and sunny... perfect. Beginning to wander if im over my gd but think thats probably just the idea of being pregnant again putting me off. Im sure once bubs is out and i've forgotten how hard pregnancy/child birth is, that it will rear its ugly head again!

Hope - conceiving is just one massive waiting game isn't it.... so frustrating! Feels like you have been doing this for so long now, its so unfair! Have you got a plan for this cycle all sorted with atomic?

Indigo - many congratulations on the birth of your little boy!
This 2WW has dragged on but I think I'm probably out again and I feel out of energy for swaying anymore. I've been actively swaying since June 2011 and am desperate for a baby. My hubby's determined that this is our last - I'd like 4 regardless, we'll see! Since 9dpo (I'm 11dpo and refusing to test until late) I've been full of cold had headaches and felt hot a lot but my cp's low and although I had the 'oh sh*t, I've conceived' thought without realising I'd ovulated that day, I just don't know, so I guess my doubt should be taken as the correct gut feeling. I just feel so worn down by it all when so many women can easily have girls, I swing between feeling 'why shouldn't I be the same?' to of course 'I'm bound to have another boy. I'll never have a girl' How has everyone else satyed positive? I'm sure I'll pick up once this cold's gone but I just don't know how to try next month, maybe lazy swaying's the answer for me as I can be the obsessive type. Thank you so much all of you for your support. x x

Hi Dreamofpink, I found it so hard to determine if I was ov'ing! Really only got the hang of it the mth I conceived and I had been charting for months! I've had treatment on my cervix, so it's always 'high' and ewcm was so variable. Plus, my ov dates varied from day 18-28!! I got my +ve opk one night , temp rise in the morning and dtd that afternoon. Thought I was out due to my temp shift, but think I conceived at O+20??? I ended up buying a CBFM and not realising I was pg!! managed to sell it on ebay!! lol

Hi ladies!

Can I join you? We are hopefully DTD tonight and twice tomorrow - I "should" be ovulating tomorrow/Thursday and we have been abstaining for 2 weeks now! Hubby is desperate for me to get those little lines on my opk, and my temp dipped this morning, so it's bang on for my temp to rise tomorrow.

Wish us luck!

Inglewood - thanks for your message, this month was different for me as I always know exactly when I ov due to lots of EWCM on that one day only then white the next. This time, I only had EWCM on my cervix and a little bit of watery on Ov day, we dtd the night before as I was still certain I hadn't had my LH surge - even testing 3 times every day I still missed it this time! Oh i just don't know, if I tried a moderate LE diet at the start of af would that be enough? Only 2 weeks or so?
Welcome Northern Shutterbug x x

Dreamofpink, i can so sympathise with you! i swayed pretty hard core for a year and it was such a stressful time. All i can offer in terms of advice is that cut-offs don't work for everyone. Never would have for me for example as i ov really late (48 hrs) after initial lh surge even though i didn't realise it for pretty much the whole year. Basically it meant that my cut off attempts were way to early. The months i got pg (i had 2 chemicals) before this pregnancy were months where i kept on bding after i thought my o+12 was over. Actually i ended up finding out that my o+12-24 were actually when i was ov (perhaps hence the little boy im carrying!). I think relaxing your sway a little and having more bd will help :)

Northern - welcome! of course you can join us! Gl luck with your attempts...fx this is your month!

Good luck ladies!

Northern - the LE diet will work quickly to lower pH and blood sugar levels (possibly the aspect of swaying with the best scientific evidence!) and you could lose a few pounds in 2 weeks which may also help. It may take longer to lower testosterone.

Long, unpredictable cycles are also a good sign for ttc pink which is why it can be a good idea to take Vitex and Saw P. Some ladies avoid them as they don't want to screw up their cycles but that might be how they work. I never had unpredictable cycles when I conceived my boys. I'm sure you know this but almost all the ladies doing a DG style sway do not include timing (in relation to O) because it makes no odds. Most ladies DTD at the time they're most likely to get pregnant which is the day before O (at pos OPK) because this means there will be capacitated sperm waiting when the egg arrives on the scene. Some are fortunate and get pregnant with one attempt but many need to DTD more than once as the other pink sway tactics lower fertility so much - it's a tricky balance to lower fertility and swsy pink but still get a BFP.

Sorry not got time to proof read - monkeys need attention!!

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Hope - conceiving is just one massive waiting game isn't it.... so frustrating! Feels like you have been doing this for so long now, its so unfair! Have you got a plan for this cycle all sorted with atomic?

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It's been forever. My first attempt was November 2011. Then I got ill and all BFNs. I basically have dropped everything except diet and I'm on clomid. Atomic and I have made a plan. Hopefully this will be the month bc I can "capitalize " on how sick I've been and the clomid should help. Ive also lost a ton of weight. She explained it like fertility being on a continuum and I needed to drop things to move along to be able to conceive not sway blue. Iykwim I also decided to take Estradial which I haven't in previous months it can sway blue but I'm not getting pregnant without it. Today I had an HSG they insert dye in your tubes looking for blockages. Everything was totally normal. I read that it helps conception especially if results come back normal. I really feel like this is my month.

Congrats Indigo! How are things going!?!

Oh a few new people trying - hopefully get some pink BFPs :)

Petal - I feel like you - DS3 is a delight and so easy... which is so nice when the other 2 monkeys are charging around and fighting and whinging! :D But DS3 is just growing too quickly! He's not so newborn anymore!!! Have a maternal child health visit tomorrow (think thats the same as your HV??) so we'll see how much he's grown.

I was out yesterday with all 3 boys - one in the pushchair, one on the buggy board and DS3 in the baby bjorn and this woman (a complete stranger) came right up to me and said 'so did you get your girl?'. I was a bit surprised and just said 'no another boy' and she then said 'oh well'. I wasn't very impressed.

Anyways its been a long day here so I'm off to enjoy a hot choc! Its been a beautiful 18 degree day - quite mild for a winters day in Melbourne :D

we managed to DTD last night again, and today I'm finally getting consistant +opk so hopefully with doing it again tonight we'll get a positive in 2 weeks!

I've not been good on the diet though (although nearly no meat for 2 weeks and no red meat for 4-5 weeks) so I am not very positive that it'll be a good or successful sway, but I'm just no good at doing diets. I have had hubby abstain though, and we've done it once after abstaining for 14 days, then the released yesterday morning, we DTD in the night, he released again this morning, and we'll give it one more go tonight. I've not had a big O during DTD (although did have a big O whilst doing an unsuccessful BD a few hours after our first go - I couldn't help it!).

I've been drinking tons of peppermint tea, having antihistamine and using rephresh, so hopefully something will help!

Good luck Northern S!!!!! x

Pinga sounds like you've been busy with the boys! How rude of that person to comment on having boys, I just can't understand why people feel the need to comment!

Deaks hope the cooler weather is better for you, have you guys got a name for your little man yet?

Inglewood when did the girls start to show signs of colic? Poor Lily is struggling very much with wind in the evenings, when she's going through it she sounds like she's in absolute agony it's heart breaking to hear. I'm going to try and see if it's my diet making her so uncomfortable and hope that she starts to feel a little better soon.

My dp is now away on his holiday in south Africa, it's so strange not having him here :(
But my mums come to visit while he's gone so I'm happy! She hadnt met Lily until she was over three weeks old and she absolutely adores her! Constantly looking for an excuse to have a cuddle lol.
I have started to express a little milk and will be trying lily with the bottles, she definatly not a fan at the moment but if I try every day she will get use to the feel and hopefully will take some milk so I can get some time to be me and not a prize cow lol.

I'm getting quite upset with my body shape now as well, I don't fit into any of my clothes at all, I have a christening this weekend and I just don't know how to dress for my new and certainly not improved figure! I got quite sad looking in the Mirror when trying things on. I've got about 3stone I need to think about shifting, it seems quite daunting when I say that :S
I can't wait till I can get back to running!

[QUOTE] Iwas out yesterday with all 3 boys - one in the pushchair, one on the buggy board and DS3 in the baby bjorn and this woman (a complete stranger) came right up to me and said 'so did you get your girl?'. I was a bit surprised and just said 'no another boy' and she then said 'oh well'.


My first reaction to this is what is wrong with people. Seriously. But after thinking about it I really think it shows how common it is to want the opposite gender baby of the ones you already have. Sitting yesterday in the ob's office there was a pregnant women with 2 girls. Everyone asked her if she got her boy. Really shows how universal the desire is. Anytime someone may have a hint I want to go for #3 the first response is you want the girl. I do obviously but it tells me they would too .

Pinga- I wrote a huge response to your post and I think it got eaten somehow :(

I fixed it somehow

Pinga, some people really dont understand how deep gender desire can be and sometimes dont mean to offend us but i now, wouldnt ever make a remark about gender to a pregnant woman.

Kell, aww poor little Lily bless her, its so hard when you cant help them! Losing weight is so daunting isnt it! but once you start losing a bit it spurs you on to keep going. Good luck, you can do it!!! x x

Hope that is so true! I think its easy for us to feel like we are in the minority with wanting a specific gender but actually i think its just that we have done something about it whereas most people perhaps wouldn't even think to question if there's something they could do.

Kell, so sorry that lily is struggling, hope things improve soon.

Hi everyone else, how are you all? Loving this kind of weather, sunny and breezy but looks like the weekend could go downhill...shame :(

Been doing some serious nesting and finally finishing house DIY off and wading through stuff we have accumulated but don't want anymore that is squirrelled away in all my cupboards. :)

Deaks66 & Zanacal - thank you both for your comments regarding the diet and trying to conceive. As daft as it sounds for the first time in a year I was really pleased to have af visit today. I've been on the diet now for 5 days and love it compared to the awful, dull traditional IG diet that I started last June and managed it very strictly until March. Knowing what I know now after reading as much as I can on this fab website I'm so glad I didn't conceive any sooner! I'm taking Saw P. and sticking to 1500cal and the other limits for the LE diet. I'm getting used to no brekkie slowly, though I'll be glad when I can start having it again! Do you think if I conceived this month, 2 weeks being on the LE diet and taking Saw P. plus FR would make for a good sway? I'm not overly keen on the jellies and douches and not sure whether vitex is avaliable in the UK and if it would be good for my cycles as I ov anywhere between days 14-20. I just want to say how amazing it is to have a community of like-minded ladies who understand so much, as even my closest friends get lost with the whole swaying thing! I guess we'll be on to TTC Sept soon ;-) Thank you all!

Meant to add :fx: for you northern!

Dreamofpink - I think 2 weeks would be better than nothing but testosterone tends to take longer to lower than some of the other things (pH/blood sugar levels) so longer is more ideal! If your cycles are already squiffy then that's probably a good thing for ttc pink. I got Vitex in the UK but I know there was going to be some law change which meant they wouldn't be available any more. I would send you my left overs but I gave them to my sister!

Zanacal - Thank you. Do you know if saw P changes the length of your cycle at all? I don't really understand how it works, only that it can help remove testosterone from blood ******. Is testosterone the most important thing for ttc girl? We've been trying now for a year and can't bear missing a month! Would it be better to drop to 1200cal/day for the next 2 weeks? I desperately want a girl but have had enough of trying now. I'm worried that with FR we can't just mix BD and FR leading up to O, as I don't want to turn the whole process into something totally mechanical! Sorry to bombard you all with so many questions. This impatient streak keeps popping up occasionally, stressing me out that I haven't conceived over the last year and I really don't want a big age gap between no2 and no3 - at the moment it'll be 4 years, whereas there's only 23 months between my two at the moment. Silly how that bothers me so much! x x

Hi girls sorry to be MIA but been a busy two weeks - will catch up tomorrow. Had dave baptised today. I am just never amazed at how crap some people can be at being a family. So bloody angry at some people when it's such a important day! Fil in law pissed straight off from the church to the pub, then turned up to the party two hours late then left as soon as the red wine ran out! Also mum and sister didn't even bring a card! Bil left after a hour to go out sailing, mil made comments on how some people 'don't know when to stop having kids' gaggh!! I'm having ten more just to p eople off now! But on the plus side, it was a lovely day and it's been lovely thinking about how much I had to do to get him, and how he finally decided to join us.

Hello Maybebabythree, congrats on your son's baptism. It's so true isn't it that we can't choose our family, but we can choose our friends! hopefully in the years to come you'll be able to look back on the day and 'forget' all the annoyances. How do you find the age gap between your boys?

Awww maybe congratulations on his baptism!
I was at a baptism yesterday as well :) for my cousins little boy! I had a lovely day but I wonder if there were annoyances like that for my cousin also.
Hope you and the boys are all good x

Dreamofpink I think the big age gaps are lovely but they wasn't planned that way. I fell the second week trying for ds1. I had pre eclampsia so it took a bit of courage before I tried for ds2, then he took nine months to conceive. Ds3 took two years to conceive! I was swaying pretty hard and fell pg when I gave up my sway. I wish I hadn't got so stressed yesterday as I feel I let dhs dad spoil it for us.

So it looks like there might be some smog babies being planned then? Good luck every one

Maybebaby - I had pre-eclampsia with my first son too. It took me a while to convince my dh to allow us to try for another and a year later we're still trying! I fell in the second month of trying with both of my boys, but cut-offs have been the biggest enemy to my sway. I'm so glad I can give that up as it stressed me out so much each month. My T levels must've been sky high! I bet you're really enjoying having your third son, so envious of those with little babies - it's a wonderful time!

Sorry to hear that dreamofpink. Pre eclampsia isn't nice. I had high blood pressure this time so I was induced early again. Unfortunately I was re admitted twice after his birth due to my blood pressure. I just don't do the last two months of being pg very well. When you fall pg ask your doctor about aspirin. This baby was a great weigh and they could control my bp with medication. Sure it was the asprin. Yes I love my little chap. Love this age - goes to quickly x

Maybebaby - aspirin is a wonder-drug! I took it with my second son and he was born just after his due date with no bp problems at all. My first son was born at 30 weeks, emergency c-section. Pre-eclampsia is such a horrid thing! I will definitely take it when I fall pregnant next. You sound really happy with your little man, he's a lucky little boy to have joined such a loving mummy. :wink:

Ladies, is anyone still getting Vitex and if so, where from? What strength are we looking for again?

Hellllooooo!! Been MIA for abot 2wks, damn laptop!!! Problems almost fixed, can get online, just keeps freezing on me!!

Hope ur all well? GL to those TTC! :)

Kell, girls were about 7wks when the colic started, just as you describe with Lily, worst at night. For me the best thing was the Dr Brown's bottles (know ur BF, but for when expressing?) and the colocynth granules.... for them that was what helped them. Bless her, hope it passes, it's awful when they scream and u can't help! The girls also had silent reflux which didn't help. :( I also have a fair bit of baby weight to shift, around 4 stone of it!! Lost 8 1/2lbs but had a BAD week this week...oops...

Maybe, hope u had a lovely day for ds3 despite all the family crap. Sure you all did and dh and u were proud and happy your wee bubs has arrived. How have u enjoyed the paralympics??

Better go, tired today. nite all xx