Yes, not sure I really think it makes that much difference i.e. the seasons. But I guess I would like to conceive away from winter to see if we can get a girl so may be I will just avoid May to July.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belle
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Yes, not sure I really think it makes that much difference i.e. the seasons. But I guess I would like to conceive away from winter to see if we can get a girl so may be I will just avoid May to July.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belle
Well, the interesting thing is that the closer you get to the equator, more girls are conceived!!! The seasons are less important if you live nearer the equator.Quote:
Originally Posted by melinda
I think it's MUCH better to TTC with what the data indicates and what also seems to make sense...that baby boys have better odds of survival when they are born in late spring/early summer and so something in your body responds to environmental cues and makes you more likely to TTC a boy in Sept/Nov in the Northern Hemisphere, Mar-May in the southern. Your body has no clue when you TTC your last kids, but it does have a clue how long the days are and whether the temperature outside is warm or cold and how much Vit. D it's been making from sunshine. THAT'S what it responds to and that is what is doing the swaying, not some mystical property of one month over another, but what is going on inside your body and what gives your baby the best shot at surviving.Quote:
Originally Posted by jude17
That "do the opposite" idea gets bandied about a lot on swaying sites. But the problem is that doing the opposite on some of these things is only going to make you MORE boy friendly than you were to start with. If you were so boy friendly that you conceived a boy in a "girl" time of year in the first place, conceiving again in a "boy" time of year isn't going to cure that at all, it's only going to make it harder for swaying to overcome that setting. It's all about maximizing your odds, not doing the opposite. It is highly unlikely that your personal body just happens to work opposite to everyone elses, KWIM??
I have TWO boys conceived in March and I would STILL conceive in March-May again if I wanted a girl.
PS - I just wanted to let you guys know that it almost gave me physical pain to accept that the seasons really might have a role to play in swaying. I didn't want to believe it and argued against it at first, but the data really does seem to be supported by science and even more importantly, makes SENSE from an evolutionary perspective.
I have 2 boys conceived in late July/early August therefore I would skip that month only b/c I don't want another child with an April birthday :)
Totally!
PS (hi Crystal!!!) :heart: :heart: :heart:
My girls are all born in spring, summer and autumn. I don't have a winter baby.
Just wanted to say again how awesome I find this post. It rings so true for me. Conceived my ds very end of oct and conceived my dd very end of Feb. So next time will try for a girl in march or April and hopefully if I get a chance to, I will eventually sway for another boy in oct.
I also agree about the not doing the opposite of what u have done in the past in this case. You will just be making urself even more boy friendly. In my opinion. Great advice atomic!!!
Thank you Babydust!!! Hey, since we were in the same DD group, you can def. back me up on the fact that most of the swayers did indeed conceive baby girls (even those who wanted boys!!)
How important do you guys think the seasons have to do with swaying? I was planning on TTC for a girl starting in November which is boy time. I can push it back a couple more months if you think it would make a big difference. I just wanted the spacing closer together with my son, and I'm also afraid it may take me a long time to get pregnant. Thanks for any advice. :)
I think that if you're swaying, it matters less than it would otherwise because you're doing so much more to counteract whatever boost in fertility/boy friendliness that the seasons seem to trigger.
You make a great point about it potentially taking months to conceive...I totally think you need to do what is right for you and your family first because you never know, you may not even get pg that first month or even first few months.
That having been said, for those who have a lot of leeway in deciding when to try, it makes some sense to go with the seasons but there are certainly TONS of opposites (I have TWO.)
my 4 boys were conceived december, november, march and december, that dosent fit at all does it?
I have four girls, 2 born in late summer and 2 in Autumn. Hoping for a spring/early summer next :)
If you read the articles that are linked in the essay, there are still plenty of opposites conceived even in the peak months (as I know all too well having two myself!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by dannikins
PS - actually it DOES fit for you Dannikins, because you are in the Southern Hemisphere, correct?? So your March-conceived son would be right in the peak period of boy conceptions for the Southern Hemisphere of Mar-May. The conceptions in Dec would be in a more neutral time. Only the Nov. conception is truly an opposite.
Oh good, I am living near the equator at the moment (good for girls)! My boys were conceived in May and April, when I was further from the equator, and in the Southern Hemisphere. Both born in summer. Very interesting.
so many sites had me so concerned about TTC in Nov-February, saying I should wait until Spring. I live in LA and it's warm and sunny all the time, so I wonder if my body still thinks in terms of survival or not....
Hi carmella,
There were still PLENTY of opposites born even in the peak months. It's just that since we're trying to optimize our odds, some people might want to TTC in those months as opposed to other months. But no one HAS to do that to get their DG. I am living prooof you can conceive opposites becasue I have two.
I agree, if you live in LA, it's unlikely it makes much of a difference anyway. Other factors are more important for you, like diet, lifestyle, etc.
My girls were conceived in September, January and May. However, I was low on calories for all three and probably low on nutrients. Unfortunately, we are not yet agreed on trying for the 4th, but we are trying to build up our bodies in case we decide to go ahead with it. I've been on the diet for about 3 weeks, but think I may need a few months to really build up some muscle, although I'm doing quite well at putting on the pounds :-). I'm also concerned that dh may need longer than 6 weeks to build up his sperm quality. So then the earliest we would be ready physically to ttc boy would be December. With the last two I didn't get pg quickly and think the earliest I would get pg would be spring and then it may throw off the whole boy sway. But, I also don't want to wait a whole year, because I'm 36 with a history of difficulty getting pg. I want my boy...what to do? what to do?
Demeter, sperm quality actually can increase fairly quickly. I think that 6-8 weeks is ample time to allow sperm quality to improve. You're right about building some muscle tho and I do think 3 months will be plenty of time for that.
You already ahve one opposite (girl in sept.) and so I don't think it's unreasonable at all to hope that you can conceive another (boy conceived in girl peak). Plenty of opposites are conceived in the peak months!!
Or, you can just go ahead and TTC this month and November and feel good in the knowledge that you have the months on your side, and then by the time Dec. rolls around, you will have added muscle and DH's sperm will be in a good zone - but I can understand not wanting to do that if you're still on the fence about TTC.
Good luck!!
Does anyone know if those SAD light things would work to trick the body into thinking its summer not winter? Im swaying in early December, in the UK so winter, but for a girl. If I got a SAD lamp and used that evenings, would this help decrease the boy chance because of swaying in Dec?
That's a good idea chocolate, I don't know the answer though! I have a friend who uses a lamp and she conceived a little girl the same time as I conceived DS3 in January. She did have other girlie things going on too though!
I guess its worth a go, will try to find the reason for how they work to beat winter blues and see if that links to swaying pink
Swaying in December doesn't have super high boy odds. I would feel fine about TTC in December.Quote:
Originally Posted by chocolate
The science does NOT support the ions theory. I would be concerned that since we are nearing the girl peak in April, that by using the SAD light you could actually interfere in nature helping you out...if your body notices the shorter day lengths and then that is what sways somehow, if your body starts thinking that the days are longer, it might "trick" your body into thinking it's October, which IS more boy friendly than Jan, Feb, etc.
Hello ladies. I have just came across this forum. I have 3 sons conceived in late July, late December, march. I live in Ireland so I'm not sure what way it would work for me? What months would be good months for me ttc a girl? Thanks.
Hi Irishmom and welcome! :)
The girl peak months for those of us who live in the Northern Hemisphere are March, April, and May. It's best to avoid Sept., Oct, and Nov. if you can as these are the boy peak months. As you can see, even in the girl peak, there are plenty of opposites conceived (I have two sons conceived in March myself), and first and foremost you have to do what's right for you and your family, it's just that overall there is a pretty significant statistical variation that cannot be explained away by chance. Since swaying is all about optimizing the odds, it's nice to have the seasons on our side if we can!
Thanks for your reply atom. I've only started the diet and vitamins this week so do you think it would be too early to ttc in April?I'm reading up on everything at the minute before going for pink so this is interesting reading. I've been reading and watching another gender site for a few years but only
Found this site today. I have to say I much prefer it. I'm sure I will have loads of questions after I read all the topics so sorry if I annoy you all lol. Good luck everyone. It's a breath of fresh air to be able to discuss it without being
Judged.
No, I think April would be perfect!!! :)
I'm glad you like the site - there are many of us on here who are refu-IG's ;) I was actually swaying forum leader on there a few years ago but was thrilled to get the opportunity to create more of a laid back environment here (hope so anyway)
Please ask any/all q's you have - we will link you to the answer and fill in any gaps!
This is fun I dont know if its true or not but my boys were conceived 2 in Oct 1 in dec/jan - does this follow the pattern ? If so being in the Uk what would my peak months be ?
Thank u yet again for answering yet another one of my silly questions :-0
UK is Northern Hemi so the boy peak is Sept.-Nov, girl peak is Mar-May. But understand, that the peaks are not like a light switch, they're very gentle rises and falls in the ratio of boys to girls conceived. So it's probable that Aug and Dec may be more boy friendly, just not AS boy friendly, and Feb and June may be more girl friendly, just not AS girl friendly, as the peak months are. We don't know for sure without more data.
Plus, it's totally possible to conceive a girl in boy peak and vice versa. I have two boys conceived in Mar and then my girl I conceived in Nov!! It's not a magic bullet, just a little thing that may help and can't hurt.
Hi Atomic really struggling to get my head around the swaying thing and really want to give it my all if we can't do HT. I'm in the UK and three boys conceived in April, Aug/Sept (very early sept i think) and nov/dec (i o'd right at start of dec). What months are best for me - do i need to wait until next year to get my girl? was planning to ttc in oct (either ht or natural) but maybe thats not right for us if its key boy time.... am really confused maybe this stuff does not work for me as i have boys at odd times throughout the year anyway
Is it me or do you think this theory comes down to diet again though?
As naturally I tend to lose weight in spring ready for summer also eat very light meals salads etc, and sept-November I tend to start to put on a little weight changing my diet to more winter foods? Also ladies close to the equator who don't really have seasonal changes probably naturally won't really change there foods much through out the year hence the theory that they have more girls? (always eating spring/summer foods)
This is what I'm really hoping though as I want to ttc August!!!!!
I also conceived ds2 late August early September (but also was totally obsessed with 3.8% milk and crunchy nut cornflakes at the time when I conceived him lol) I conceived ds1 in October and ds3 in January all months where I defiantly wasn't dieting at all actually typical skinny boy mum to think I need to put on weight and eat very nutritious foods to conceive! Hence having three boys!! Lol
Does any one agree?
It definitely makes sense!
I agree too! I have thought the exact same. My son was conceived at Xmas time = eating lots of rich foods and daughter was conceived in spring when I was being careful of what I ate in preparation for a holiday ( was ttc a girl with other sway methods I.e timing, douche, supps too). I too am ttc in august for a girl and hope that by doing the LE diet I will b
Mimicking spring time. GL
Please understand that this is a pretty small variation, there are still tons of babies of both genders conceived throughout the year. I have two boys conceived in girl months and my only girl was conceived in a boy month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs_P
You do NOT need to wait to TTC until next year. It's just a little curiosity that may help in some way. If you feel good about your sway, TTC when it's right for YOU and your family. The info is interesting and so we keep it in mind, but no one should feel locked into TTC only in a few months out of the year based on this.
My boys were all conceived in September and DD was conceived in late December. I think diet can easily override season as a gender influence.
I was wondering about this the other day and thinking there's no way I can wait until it's "a girl season" to ttc, lol!!! 3 of my ds were conceived in June, 1 DS conceived in Jan/early Feb and my only DD conceived in March. I def think diet and lifestyle are more important swaying factors than season. Good luck with your sway :)
It does make sense and when I first heard of this study that is what I thought as well, but then when I looked into it a little bit more, it sounds as if they corrected for that (the same people also did a study where they looked at body mass and the seasons) and then some other evidence from other sources, seemed to show some seasonality affects on fertility as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiffani3
i agree, I think diet and lifestyle are a gazillion times more important then seasons, but if you can have them working for you, it's best to have the info available.Quote:
Originally Posted by elle82
Hate that I just remembered this - There is no way I can wait until feb to think about concieving just to get our little girl :-(
I found this quite interesting.
My eldest Daughter was conceived in August, my youngest Daughter was conceived in March.
Do you know what the conception moths would be for a boy In the southern hemispere? Like deep southern hemispere, like southern New Zealand south lol.