Super Soy for a girl or a boy!

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Originally Posted by cravingsalt

Sorry if I missed it, trying to read through discretely at work- where do you buy Soy Isoflavones? Would Whole Foods carry in their supplement section?

Thanks!

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You can buy them at any health food store like Super Supplements. I'm not sure about Whole Foods, but I ~think~ Fred Meyer has them in the natural foods section. They aren't at your normal supermarket, but the natural grocery stores may be a lot more likely have them. You may have better selection online however.

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

No, I don't think it would matter for a 2 1/2 year old that's nursing once a day. I always try to err on the side of conservative because there have been people exclusively EBF a 3 month old who want to take the full gamut of supplements and obviously we can't have that, but it's a totally diff. scenario to your situation.

We're taking EVERYTHING at our own risk - remember, even things that have been well studied and approved by the FDA are often found to cause problems years later!!!

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Ah, phew - fantastic! My gut says it shouldn't be a problem, so I'm glad you said that!
I wouldn't consider it if he were 3 months just because then what I take in matters so much to his overall nutrition, but now I'm like a midnight snack/treat/comfort rather than a full on meal! :P Heeheeh.

Thanks, atomic!

Thanks, atomic. I'm on day 3 now (day 5 of cycle). Will report back!

I just started my first round of SI today (cd 3), so I'm right behind you, cravingsalt!

Good luck, ladies!!

Thanks! I'll keep y'all updated. This is our third cycle ttc, and I have a short lp, so I'm loving all the helpful info on this site!

Bumping for our new members. :)

Thanks

Thanks Shellbelle!

I was just looking at this at the store and they had it combine w/ 100mg of red clover and thats on your no no list

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Originally Posted by boys4

I was just looking at this at the store and they had it combine w/ 100mg of red clover and thats on your no no list

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I ended up having to buy mine online, because our local stores only had it as some sort of combo.

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Originally Posted by boys4

I was just looking at this at the store and they had it combine w/ 100mg of red clover and thats on your no no list

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can you link which one you bought??

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Originally Posted by boys4

I was just looking at this at the store and they had it combine w/ 100mg of red clover and thats on your no no list

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sorry that's a no go, thats for menopause

yeah I remeber looking through the list and seeing red clover. walmart had the plain veresion but it did have calcium added but that's on the girl sway so thought it would be ok-

I can't find the link to the ones I took, and I no longer have the bottle. I'm sorry! But they had 60 mg each, so I took 3 a day on days 3-7. I didn't really have any side effects except WAY more EWCM and a feeling of pressure in my abdomen around O time. It took 3 cycles on soy to get my bfp and we don't know if it's a girl or a boy yet.

hope the wait is easy on you:)

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Originally Posted by boys4

hope the wait is easy on you:)

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Thanks! One thing I do think needs to be added (I'm not sure if it came up earlier in this thread or not) but when you're looking at the total mg per capsule, make sure you're looking at the SI amount and not the "full" amount. There should be a place in the nutritional/dosage info that says something like "120 mg capsules, with 40 mg soy isoflavones" or something similar. You want to dose by the actual SI amount. And yes, many of the brands show numbers like this even if it only contains soy -- I know mine did, and there have been other threads about it in the past.

Good luck!

yeah mine just says 40 mg soy and 150 mg calcium

I have never heard of soy with calcium?? That may be for menopause too. how many mg of soy??

I personally would not take the calcium, but if it's a small amount it may be just used for formulating the pill and not to give you a big dose of calcium. BUT if it's some kind of menopause supp, then it may have calcium for bone health and then a smaller dose of soy.

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Originally Posted by boys4

yeah mine just says 40 mg soy and 150 mg calcium

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Yes, those are not going to work because in order for you to get up to the 100-200 mg soy, you are taking a big dose of calcium. Those are meant for menopausal women who are having hot flashes and are worried about their bone health.

Even if you are a big believer in calcium swaying pink it still won't work because you only take the soy for 5 days and would have to supplement with additional calcium the rest of the month.

Ladies,

I wish all of you would do more research before taking any type of soy. I refuse to even let soy into my house, it is so bad for you.

The main reason it is bad for women is that is can drasticailly slow the thyroid down. I used to eat soy products everyday until I was diagnosed with hypothyroid, and the first thing my naturopath told me was to cut out soy. She said it is extremely bad for you, and it messes with your hormones.

I think most of us are doing it for a very short period of time 5 days vs- vegetarians and vegans who might use soy everything daily. I am not a big soy fan but I don't see the risks for this short period of time-

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Originally Posted by tiffany12345

Ladies,

I wish all of you would do more research before taking any type of soy. I refuse to even let soy into my house, it is so bad for you.

The main reason it is bad for women is that is can drasticailly slow the thyroid down. I used to eat soy products everyday until I was diagnosed with hypothyroid, and the first thing my naturopath told me was to cut out soy. She said it is extremely bad for you, and it messes with your hormones.

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This is 100% true and is in the essay. That having been said, that's people who are EATING a lot of soy, day in and day out (strict vegans and some people who are lactose intolerant) Taking it for 5 days, while def. something that people with thyroid issues should avoid, it is ok for the average gal on the street.

Can DH take SI and drink Monsters? Or would you recommend him not to take SI at all and only have me take it. I am trying for the fastest BFP pink sway ;)

We don't have enough info on guys taking soy iso. It probably sways pink, but at the same time can cause infertility and even brain fog in guys who were taking it. I'd stick with the Monsters (worked for us!)

Thanks Atomic!

monsters- the energy drinks?? that sways girl??

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Soy milk and beans are believed to be acidifying while tofu is believed to be alkalinizing, so it's hard to know what exactly is going on with that. :confused:

I'm not sure at all but one reason for the difference in ph between the soys could be --- tofu/soy sauce are made with fermented soy while soy milk and beans are made with fresh. I've read that the only soy that's really digested easily is the fermented soy. I did some research after my DD1 was getting constipated all the time. She ate edamame constantly and I had her on soy milk thinking the regular milk was doing it. Now we're on almond milk and have been having consistent BM's. Who knows for sure!

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Originally Posted by Atsaukina1

monsters- the energy drinks?? that sways girl??

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we don't know but it has worked for several people including me. when drunk by dh

what does clomid and soy together sway for?

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Originally Posted by Flava

I took a lot of soy isoflavones when I was ttc DD4 . Just want to say no way I take soy again.

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can I ask why not?? might help to share.
I took it from cd2-6 only 80mg. but did no have any side effects(headachescramping,ect.)
my O came 3 days earlier but who knows if that's from soy or just cause. in the 2ww so we'll see. Would love to hear your experiance to offer another side even if it is not positive,always best to have more info.

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Originally Posted by rachel

what does clomid and soy together sway for?

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You can't take BOTH Clomid and soy. One or the other.

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Originally Posted by Atsaukina1

can I ask why not?? might help to share.
I took it from cd2-6 only 80mg. but did no have any side effects(headachescramping,ect.)
my O came 3 days earlier but who knows if that's from soy or just cause. in the 2ww so we'll see. Would love to hear your experiance to offer another side even if it is not positive,always best to have more info.

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Because she wanted a boy and got a girl.

i read somewhere if you take it together it helps with your lining to not thin out....????

Don't mix Clomid and soy. They interfere with each other.

So to clarify vitex and soy iso is no-no? What about soy iso and SP?

no vitex or SP or pep tea; no EPO, flaxseed for blue - nothing hormonal with soy

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

My understanding is that soy is ok for older ladies TTC. It doesn't have the same stuff in it that raises FSH and in fact may even lower it. So you get the benefit of the Clomid without the potential to affect egg quality negatively.

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please how do i take soy iso to increase my chances of twinnings and what other things should i take to support this.

Hi Atomic Sagebrush
can you point me in the direction of the no no list! and why is red clover bad? thanks

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Originally Posted by tee

please how do i take soy iso to increase my chances of twinnings and what other things should i take to support this.

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http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ing-twins.html