My baby is only 4 months old so I am still exclusively bf-ing. What are the girl swaying benefits of bf-ing then? And will I continue to have a short luteal phase while bf-ing? What do the various supps do?
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My baby is only 4 months old so I am still exclusively bf-ing. What are the girl swaying benefits of bf-ing then? And will I continue to have a short luteal phase while bf-ing? What do the various supps do?
you have your cycles back already?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
BF itself lowers oestrogen and testosterone (which is why you might not get AF at first/lower CM), and also soon after pregnancy your nutrients will already be lower and BFing gives your nutrients to LO too.
So whilst milk is your baby's main source of food I think BFing sways really strongly if you can get pregnant then
BFing makes you less fertile by messing with ovulation, luteal phase, and drier CM (for some people)
vitex "regulates hormones" and can lengthen luteal phase, but can also mess with OV making it either more regular if you were irregular, or irregular if you were already regular
vit B6 can lengthen luteal phase
I had a severe luteal phase defect whilst BF so at 1 year I took vitex and vit B6 to lengthen it. It went from 5 days up to 12 days in 2 cycles and night-weaned at the same time down to 2 feeds a day
I think I've read somewhere B6 sways blue?Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
it might do a bit, but if you have such a severe luteal phase defect that you can't conceive you can't get a girl either! and I think if you're deficient in the majority of nutrients then taking enough of a few won't do any harm (for example folic acid, we take excessive amounts of that without blinking sway-wise)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet mummy
Thank you! It's so hard to make decisions about any of it isn't it. I got my period back early after both kids. I know that it was only 6 days between ovulation and getting my period and normally my periods are regular, give or take a few days. Think I will see how long my next luteal phase is and then take it from there.
as you reduce feeds it should lengthen a bit on it's own. When will you be TTC?
We were hoping to start in March with the expectation it will prob take a few months as I think we will do a cut off and gradually creep closer and closer to ovulation. I didn't realise luteal phase length corresponded with how regularly you are breast feeding, that's very interesting.
the more you BF, the more it negatively affects your hormones... that's the simple enough reason! as soon as you night wean your fertility will increase more, and then more again when you replace daytime feeds with food
Does anyone have anymore diet tips? I'm hungry! :-)
Does pumping act like reduce feeds? I've not ovulated yet and my ovulation sticks don't even look close so think I might not see Af for a while. Don't want to ttc until I've had a normal luteal phase.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
Also uk ladies I was wondering how you check ph of cm? I got some strips on amazon but I can't get any colour out of them.
Are you all prepared and ready to go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollydot
pumping still counts as a feed if you express enough for a feedQuote:
Originally Posted by Tree
I agree about waiting until you have a normal luteal phase before TTC. My first TTC pink cycle I had AF turn up way too early after OV and had a really bad luteal phase defect and it made it very stressful. I had to stop for a bit to get my cycles back but it meant my diet beforehand had been wasted.
I didn't bother checking pH. I bought two brands of litmus paper on eBay (one from China, one from UK) and both were too hard to interpret either not changing colour or changing to multiple colours in different areas. I just used RepHresh and trusted that it was working in the end.
Hi Tree, yep ready to go i think! ovulating around 21st... The weight is dropping off me, but can't help going over a bit on my salt intake oh well praying it's going to be ok....I agree with rainbowflower i'm not worrying about testing ph just get some good jells (aci-jel)(Rephresh) on the go, you don't want to stress and get your T levels up. Will keep you guys posted..
What are you doing timing wise? I can't decide what to do! Was going to do cut off but the more I read the more I'm convinced timing doesn't mean anything. But I think should I do frequent bd through ovulation or request release but just one bd...??!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollydot
Good Luck, very exciting! Def keep me updated!
Yeah my luteal phase was just 6/7 days!! Was that your ppaf too then? If so how long did it take for your luteal phase to regulate?Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
Do you mean you had to stop trying or stop breastfeeding? I'm planning on stopping the night feeds...
I'm doing the diet but think I just don't eat in the morning and then eat loads in the evening because I am so hungry!!
I think it was my 6th cycle after birth or something like that. The previous cycle had had an 8 day luteal phase so I thought the next cycle would be longer than that so we went for it anyway. I think it was a 6 day luteal phase or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
we nightweaned so went down to just 2 feeds a day, and I increased vitex and vit B6 dosages and between those things it went up to 12 days which is my longest luteal phase ever!
Hi Tree, i'm doing 0+12 if no luck will drop it for march, ds2 was a cut off -3 was only doing timing back than, so giving 0+12 one shot to get it out of my head....
Oh forgot to say we are doing FR cos hubby is 42 and only one attempt...
I used to be 14day lp so 6 days was quite surprising! Will see what happens this month, although at the moment there is no sign of ovulation so it's already not normal (for me).Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
I thought you couldn't take Vitex whist bf-ing?
you can take it, it just hasn't been tested to prove if it's safe or not. Many do take it while BF, though, and I know Atomic did too.
I took each tablet immediately after a BF to minimise the effects getting into the milk
I just put this on other post but thought I'd put it here too... My average day...
Maybe I can get feed back from those with more knowledge about the diet?
BREAKFAST
Decaf coffee with sweetener
SNACK/FOOD BREAKFAST at 12.00
WW toast x 2 with unsalted butter and low sugar jam
Actimal probiotic drink
Cranberry juice
LUNCH at 14.00
Bit of carrot with houmous
WW wrap with tzatziki in.
Laughing cow low fat triangle
WW yogurt
Cranberry juice
DINNER at 7pm
Rice noodles with sweet and sour sauce and green beans
WW Yogurt
SNACK EVENING OR AFTERNOON
2x large caramel snack a jacks
Other foods and drinks I have are:
-WW bagels with low fat sweet chili philli
- WW pitta
- Quorn (turkey, Sausages)
- Rice Pops
- Iceberg lettuce with low fat honey and mustard dressing
- lambs lettuce
- Rocket
- Cucumber
- Broccoli
- Pasta with pesto
- Semolina
- Tapioca
- Rice pudding
- Caffeine free diet coke
- Peppermint tea
- Strawberry liquorice
- Wine gums - too much gelatine?
- Almonds
- Walnuts
- Cranberry
THINGS IM THINKING OF ADDING
- Crackerbread
- Matzo
- Tofu
- Spinach
- Strawberries
- Raspberries
- Leeks
- Courgettes
- Grapes
- Evian water
How does it sound? What should I add/remove?
Thank you!
P.s. At the moment DH has only cut red meat out of his diet. He is willing to eat whatever so should he do the same as me? Plus LR.
I'm not taking any minerals or supplements at the moment as I'm ebf-ing. My cycles are also all over the place and I won't ttc until they regulate.
Are you able to drink peppermint tea while bf? I'm not sure.
It's been advised to drop probiotics (Actimel drink at breakfast) when ttc pink.
I think iceberg lettuce is the only recommended one, others to nutritious. Make sure you peel your cucumber. leeks, peeled courgettes, white grapes and Evian Water are all fine to my knowledge
Oh I didn't know about peppermint being a no no when bf-ing, why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2lovelyboys
Are probiotics too healthy then? How annoying, they had a deal in the supermarket so I bought loads!! :-)
Thank you for feedback!
yes peppermint tea is fine whilst BF
the acidphious probiotic had one of the lowest "success rates" in the TTC girl swaying stats, which is why people are dropping it
So the actimel isn't harmful then? Seeing as I have it it would be good to drink!Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
Is stress meant to sway girl or boy? Because I've read that stress raises testosterone ( boy) but also decreases maternal condition ( girl ).
I would also like to hear about this. Maybe the 'type' of stress?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree