Well done! Good luck hon.
I'm on cd17 and still waiting for a +. Really hoping to o before Easter when the family is here, hoping like mad I don't o cd24 like last month. I can't do another 37 day cycle!!
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Well done! Good luck hon.
I'm on cd17 and still waiting for a +. Really hoping to o before Easter when the family is here, hoping like mad I don't o cd24 like last month. I can't do another 37 day cycle!!
Thank you!! Bit worried though (just wrote other post). Hubby and I got a bit carried away... DTD. I did the big O, which made him unable to control himself! I don't know what to do!! I used a lot of RepHresh after. Ahh! This is so not ideal with short luteal phase. :-/Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
I don't understand, I get that big o isn't recommended for us girls (but I do every time anyway, lol) but why is it bad he didn't control himself? Don't go overboard with rephresh, you don't want to kill everything!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
Bad he didn't control himself as I feel it's important we wait until we know my body is ready. So basically we weren't meant to be ttc this month. Hence going overboard with the RepHresh... In theory I'd be very happy to get pregnant this month but I just worry that if I do and my body isn't ready that I'll loose the baby, and that would brake my heart!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Aha, understand. Good luck, I think if you do get pg it will be a strong one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
Ok two days of opk's (might be three - will test in a few hours), and no temp rise... Do you think I'm not ovulating at all?
It might just take a little longer to get out the gate. This happens to me too, then my temps rise the day OPK is back to negative.
Thank you!! I'm bf-ing too (although just a couple of times a day) so I'm aware that my body might be a bit all over the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niva
I've also had the odd bit of cramping, feels very period like. Strange!
Ok, opk's gone negative. This is progress. :-)
The cramping is O pains. They aren't reliable to tell you exactly when you O because they can be there before, during, and/or after O.
How's Clomid treating you!? Has your cycle seemed relatively normal or has it majorly effected O? I'm hoping all goes well this cycle for you and that you see that BFP. It'll give me some hope that Clomid might help me!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
How exactly did your RE say Clomid would help the short LP? I always assumed that Clomid would make you O right on CD14, but the more I read the less I see thats the case so i'm not sure how it ends up helping? I'm so anxious for my appt which is the end of April so I'm fully living vicariously through you :)
Know the feeling, I was doing that too through other people!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
My fertility specialist said clomid should help move o earlier from the cd 18-24 it was to cd 14ish and also extend my luteal from the 10-12 it was to 14+.
I just o'd on cd 20 which is pretty normal for me, so it didn't move earlier yet. Will let you know if my luteal improves.
I seem to be in the same situation as you - I O between 18-22 and AF comes CD28 OR 29 so my LP has varied from 7-10 days. It's so frustrating. I feel like it should be so easy to fix, but then I get worried it's not. I'm really hoping you see some great results with your LP this month! Fingers crossed for you!!Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Very similar! my cycle can be 28-32 days depending when I o and how long my luteal is. One cycle I had was 37 days which was hell!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
My plan is also to ask the dr to test progesterone if 3 cycles on clomid don't work. The specialist didn't suggest that and he saw my chart and spotting so I'm sure it's fine but worth checking if it goes on too long.
Don't know if I've asked this before, but are you guys still bf-ing?Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
Not me, I stopped over 18 months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
And how long is your LP? Cycle length all sounds normal. And isn't a LP longer than 10 days also considered normal...?
This is the first month I've temped and I'm 3dpo at the moment. Really hope my LP isn't silly short again but from what I've read getting it longer is a long winded process. :-( We will see.
I am still bf-ing morning and night though, and have done a few extras this last week as my LO has had a cold... I guess in light of this my LP might be even shorter!!!
I posted a reply but its not there...
Will wait to see if it appears!
Also do you count the LP as dpo or include O day in the calculation?
Me either, stopped about 10 months ago. I never have spotting in my LP either so I don't feel like prog. is the issues but I'm going to make sure they test it as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
I never include O day when I calculate. I'm using Fertility Friend to track my temps and everything so it actually shows how many DPO which helps. Right now I'm 6DPO and no signs except some cramping, which I've had before in past cycles so not assuming it's anything. Before my LP issues, cramping in my 2WW was a sure sign of pregnancy.. apparently not anymore!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
I'm so at a loss of what to do because its for sure not BF'ing for me. I used to have a 14 day FP and 14 day LP - pregnant on first cycle with both my DS's. It's like my body never recovered after BF'ing and this is my new 'normal'. I only realized this when I started TTC and actually temping. Grrr.. so frustrating! I'm already losing hope!
Perhaps the cramping is a good sign!!? Don't loose hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
What length is your LP now?
I'm using fertility friend too and am 3dpo.... Not holding out any hope of BFP though, and actually hope I won't as I've been terrible with the diet in the last week. As in really terrible!!!
It's all in my chart (in my signature) if you click on it it should show you everything from when I started temping last September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
I had a luteal phase of 10 days which yes, is the short side of normal, but many doctors will tell you 10 days isn't great. Fertility friend calculates this for me so not sure re your other post question.
My fertility specialist said he prefers 12-14 day luteals though as 10 can be too short for implantation to be adequate before the lining begins to degrade.
I know this is true for me as I've been pregnant 3 times and lost it super early.
Then I tried soy iso and it extended my luteal to 12 days for 2 cycles then 13 days, but that cycle I o'd really late on cd24 and the cycle ended up being 37 days.
I spot from af to o, not usually between o and af. Apparently this is unusual.
This is all only a problem because I've been TTC over a year. So obviously the luteal and spotting could be culprits. This is my first cycle on clomid so hopefully it will extend my luteal. It hasn't stopped the spotting but I'm not sure if the fertility specialist wanted it to or not. He was more concerned with my luteal.
I'm on my phone so can't see signature but will look on my computer later.Quote:
Originally Posted by meeks32
The spotting does make it sound like progesterone issues doesn't it? I'm so sorry about your losses. Really hope the clomid works!!
At 4dpo my temp has dropped to the red line :-( This surely means AF is just around the corner, probably will show tomorrow. Giving me the shortest LP so far!! It's annoying isn't it when you just want your body to return to normal!!
7dpo and my legs are really achey... So looks like AF is on her way. :-( Still, an improvement from 6days!!
It's still frustrating though.
The fact that your still BF'ing is already hope because it will very likely go back to normal once you're finished. I would never get my period until I was fully done. Even when I was down to one feeding, I still never had my period so I think everything will work itself out in time - but trust me.. it's SO frustrating!
I'm slightly inspired because today is 10DPO for me (longest LP in like 7 months). My major win this month was doing Lunaception. I thought it was completely ridiculous, but figured I'd try it since it didn't involve taking any supplements. We made our room pitch black from CD1-13 then we slept with a night light on from CD13-17 and from CD18 on we were in darkness again. I O'd super early morning on CD18 and here I am on CD28 with no AF yet.. so I am definitely going to try again next month and move my nightlight sleeps from CD12-15 in hopes it'll bring O sooner. You could always give it a try.. I felt so dumb for doing it, but it actually worked! My last cycle was a 7day LP so quite an improvement.
Fascinating!! I will def look into that, thanks. And 10 days, that conception friendly - congratulations.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
Was really hoping I could keep bf-ing but if AF comes early again I may stop. I'm barely bf-ing now he is weaning anyway. How long did they take to return to normal once you stopped?
With my first I BF'd for 11months and literally I think maybe a week or less after my milk dried up I had AF back. I'm assuming everything went back to normal fairly quickly because I got pregnant with DS2 when DS1 was 14months so I only had 2-3 AF's. This time I stopped BF'ing around 7months and it took about 2.5 months for AF to return and my cycles were all over the place (25days, 32days, 28days) and then it regulated but my LP didn't. I'm assuming it was all just a fluke thing because after DS1 everything was fine. I'm sure you'll be okay once you fully wean because the fact you already have AF is a good sign your hormones are somewhat working. Even that one feeding can still make things a little wonky which is crazy. Obviously I'm not expert with any of this.. just going off my own experience :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
Shocker.. I got a BFP today... I don't even know what to think! I'm worried about a chemical/MC due to the history of short LP. I'm on 10DPO (CD28) which is the longest I've had since AF returned a year ago. Here's hoping for a sticky bean!
Yay!!!! Congratulations!! I'm sure you'll be fine and bubs will stick. Ah, well done! XQuote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
OMG congrats! This month has been super successful for a few long termers too, Charlee and Dreamofpink both got BFP's in the last few days too!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
So happy for you! Post a pic!
Ps if this is your longest luteal, I would count that as a great sign, and a sign of being pg with a sticky one!
Was just thinking, is it worth taking progesterone cream as a precaution/for peace of mind..?Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
yah, those were kind of my thoughts. The thing is I've never spotted in the 2ww and my temps are also always high all 2ww as well - not that those are a sure sign. This morning my temp jumped to 98.7 which is the highest I've ever had... not sure if thats a good sign for progesterone levels?! I was trying to get into my doctor to get bloodwork for that reason but she doesn't have anything until Monday so that's getting a little late. I don't want to take it either if I don't need it.
Today is 11dpo, my longest luteal phase in the last 7 months has been 9days so maybe it was more just an issue that I O'd too late and my LP never adjusted so I never had time to implant. My O was cd17 (or really really early CD18) and I've never O'd before CD20 so maybe those extra two days helped... I'm hoping there's a cancellation and I can get into my doc today to talk about it!
Attachment 10195
Here's my BFP from this morning at 11DPO. I still don't believe it.. trying to not get too excited just yet!
Oh it's very there!! How exciting. Bit of an odd one here... Just thought I'd test for the hell of it. I'm 8dpo. Anyway sure I see something, though I have had evaps before...! And I do feel crampy. Attachment 10196Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
What do you think?
A line is a line! :) GL!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tree
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Gulp!! Thinking there is a good chance it's an evap. Hubby doesn't see any pink. Scared to even imagine it, my last LP was just 6 days! And our one attempt (if I can call it that, was a total oopsie). Guess only time will tell. If it is a BFP then how long would I need to worry about the LP issue...?
Atomic I think we need some of your help and wisdom over here! :-)
I see something for sure! Hard to tell on my comp if I see pink or not, but I definitely see a line. I've had an evap before so I'm always hesitant to trust until I see a few BFP's. At 8DPO you'd think it would be light so I'd test again tomorrow and see!
I'm with you on not knowing when the worry of short LP causing problems ends?! I keep worrying that the fact I O'd later than cd14 is going to cause problems, and then my short LP.. I just feel doomed. Welcome to me in the first trimester. I forgot how I over analyse every detail!!!
Fingers crossed for you!!!!
Yeah I will test again tomorrow. Pretty chilled about it as we weren't trying this month but obviously the only situation I don't want is to loose a pregnancy!Quote:
Originally Posted by MSBLAKELY
This LP pregnancy thing is actually really confusing. 1. There is no real way of knowing if your LP was/is longer the month you conceive. 2. I'm slightly confused by how pregnancy is even at achieved if the lining is inadequate in supporting a pregnancy. 3. Surely if you do end up pregnant your body produces yet more progesterone to support it? 4. By 10-14 dpo you could surely consider yourself in the safe zone as far as LP is concerned as a LP of this length is considered fine. 5. None of this takes any account of reasoning behind LPD and therefore why is may or may not be an issue.
I hope everything is alright with you, getting to 10dpo I'd imagine so!? And if it turns out I am pregnant too I also hope everything is alright!
Finally with all my short LP I've not had any spotting. Is it possible that given as I am bf-ing I had a few wonky cycles and now they are getting back to/ have gone back to normal? I really hope so!!!
Fingers crossed for us both. And please pass on And info you find out. I'll do the same, regardless of whether I'm pregnant or not!!
I messaged Atomic, here is our correspondence
(Tree's message)
'Hi Atomic,
I know you are crazy in demand but wondered if you knew much about how LPD works with pregnancy? I may... have got an BFP, though I'm only 8dpo and there is a reasonably good chance it's an evap. But if in fact I am pregnant what would you suggest I do? My last LP was just 6 days!! Should I therefore take progesterone as a precaution? Also if I am pregnant, given my LP history, how many dpo would I need to be to be in the clear as far as that's concerned? There is another lady wondering the same thing and she is 100% pregnant. We have been writing in a thread I started called Short Luteal Phase. Any feedback here or there (I will pass on if you reply here) would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!!'
(atomic sagebrush reply)
'I keep seeing that thread but it's impossible for me to reply on longer threads from my Kindle, it takes too much for me to go back and read every page if that makes any sense
First of all, CONGRATS!! Secondly, the pregnancy ~should~ make it so you do not get AF regardless of how long your LP was last month. A healthy pregnancy stimulates your body to make its own progesterone. There is no way to predict from month to month, what your LP would have been - you may have been about to have a totally normal LP this month anyway.
As to whether you should start prog. or not, you shoudl ONLY get prog supps from a doctor - not the OTC creams. They are not enough to sustain a pregnancy anyway and are meant for women in menopause. Your doctor will do a test that can tell you if you need prog. support or not.
It has actually been shown fairly conclusively that prog. support does nothing to help pregnancy outcome anyway (for people who get pos preg tests, that is). So please don't worry that you are endangering your baby's life from not getting it - if the baby is viable and you have a pos pg test, you probably don't even need the progesterone anyway.'