Ladies, when you spot before AF do you count the first day of AF as CD1 or the first day of full on AF?
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Ladies, when you spot before AF do you count the first day of AF as CD1 or the first day of full on AF?
My Ovuview app counts it as day one and so far it hasn't been wrong on predicting the next start date.
Fertility Friend doesn't consider it CD1 until the period is at least "light" flow, so spotting wouldn't count as CD1. Personally, I think that unless your spotting pretty quickly turns into a heavier flow, it's not really your period. Perhaps if you have a really light period anyway, you might have a different standard. I tend to have pretty heavy periods, so "spotting" is DEFINITELY NOT a period day for me. I think you would really have to make a comparison between what "spotting" is for you compared to your regular period. For me, there is no mistaking the difference between spotting and the first day of AF. But if you were distinguishing between spotting and light flow, I could see how that might be confusing to decide which day really counts as AF.
thanks, yes my spotting is only really just pink when I wipe only, but sometimes a little makes it to my underwear. First day of AF and it's bright red and need a tampon so I wont count it then. Not sure why I would spot for 4 days before AF like this though
pinkhelp--I did the same thing last month. It was SOOOOOOOOOOOOO annoying. I was like, oh, maybe this is implantation bleeding, and was cautiously optimistic (because I don't usually have any spotting, AF just starts), but alas, BFN. Are you by chance taking Vitex or Saw Palmetto? I was wondering if that may be affecting the way my period starts by causing spotting before AF rears her ugly head in her full obnoxious glory.
As for me, I started spotting at 7dpo, but it only lasted a few hours, so I am cautiously optimistic about this month. I tested this morning at 10dpo, but got a BFN with an early response test. But my girlfriend reminded me that it is still early to test and asked when I got a positive with DS1 and when I checked my phone, I found a picture of the pregnancy test I took and it didn't turn positive until like 18 or 19 dpo, so as long as AF stays away, I'm cautiously optimistic. When my girlfriend asked me, I forgot that I had gone to see my OB for my annual with DS1 and they told me the test was negative at the appointment, even though I was 14dpo. At the end of the appointment, after the test sat for 30 minutes, they said they saw a very faint positive (though I couldn't really see it). So maybe I am just one of those women who it takes forever to turn positive for..... fingers crossed for everyone!
Hey Christi! I went off vitex this month after being on it from AF-O for 4 months. Last month I had a really early chemical. So I'm not sure if it's the chemical that made me ovulated early cd 14, or if it was the going off vitex. I usually o on cd 18-19. I'm still holding on to threads of hope for a bfp. We shall see. I've had 2 pregnancies with no spotting/nothing at all and one where I spotted for 7 day very lightly and didnt get a bfp until 16 dpo and it was a real squinter. Do you have any symptoms?
It's hard to say. I've got an obnoxious summer cold, so my temps are staying pretty high post-o (which is consistent with my previous pregnancy), and I've had a little nausea (also consistent with before), but I'm sick, so having an elevated temp and nausea aren't really helpful clues in this particular instance. So who knows....
The most promising sign so far has definitely been the few hours of spotting on 7dpo.....
But, my gut is increasingly feeling like this is the month for us. So much so, that I decided to start my prenatal vitamins (we are taking the next month off, so if it is a bfn, I can always stop them again when af shows up). Plus, I'm sick, so maybe a few extra vitamins will help me get better sooner.
I'm still here, 10dpo today I think but I am going to wait until Tuesday to test. Yesterday I had lots of aches and cramps and I felt really light headed, I'm also a bit constipated (sorry TMI!) so I'm not sure. Time will tell I guess. In the mean time I'm enjoying drinking alcohol and keeping busy.
WOW, so I have some news.
Yesterday, 13 dpo, I had this hot feeling in my pelvis area all day, you know like when your arm is in the sun while driving and feels really hot, ya it felt like the sun was shining on my pubic bone ALL DAY and some lower back pains that were there, but not really that painful. From time to time it would also feel like this on my butt cheeks and my lower back. Well I went to bed and it kept feeling like this, only a bit more intense and then all of a sudden I got the most intense "cramps" on my pubic bone I have ever felt since right before giving birth and they lasted about 40 seconds and then the hot feeling started to let up. Still bfn this am, just checked, but it hasn't been 10 mins yet since i looked. I just know I am now. I had the back thing and the hot thing with my 3rd but not this intense. I think if I really implanted fully this late, no wonder it hurt. Isn't the blastocyst? about a 1/4 inch my now? The baby must have started to implant on Monday (cd 10) causing the spotting and it's continued all week. I'll expect more from all the cramping. We shall see. I'm also worried that such a late implant is not so good, and also worried it means boy, but all 3 of my boys, I had these symptoms about 6-7 dpo, not 13!!!
Sorry for the LONG post! This month I had an attempt at 3.5 day cut off and an o+12 (exactly 12 hrs after I felt the mega cramps from O that lasted about 20 seconds) Hoping this is going to work out for me! Also, my strategy this whole time TTC has been to make it really hard to get pg. So my first attempt, dh released on my and i just wiped a bit of semen on my vj so maybe 1/4 of load and then second attempt was a finger tip of semen at the opening. Will keep you updated! I guess I might get a really late bfp this time?
still bfn this am but I never got a bfp until 14-15 dpo with my others and that was with implantation cramps etc MUCH earlier than this....so I guess I may not get one for another week or so
Well, I'm officially out. AF showed up this morning.... Pout.... We are skipping this next cycle, so I'm going to take a break from all this swaying stuff for a few days. Good luck to everyone else!
Awww sorry to hear about AF. :( Enjoy your month off from swaying...it's so stressful!
Ugh sorry to hear that Christi! We are taking a break after this one too if I don't get a BFP. I have had to cheat on my diet a few times and definitely more than I have liked because we are trying to keep everything a secret from family until the gender scan.We are going to get backlash for a second child with no other reason than dear old family doesn't think we should have more than one. So I want to make sure I am fully back on track before making another attempt.
9 dpi for me... decided not to test until I'm actually late. Last month I was POAS every 5 seconds and drove myself crazy... I wanted to know, what is a q-tip test?
q-tip test is taking a q-tip and swabbing up around your cervix. If it comes back clearish then you are still in the clear. It comes back red and especially the more red it is AF is on the way!
Thanks everyone! I love this whole community of people who "get" how disappointing it is when af starts. Swaying is a lot harder than I realized it would be. My husband said he feels like he is "failing" me because we haven't conceived yet. We got pregnant with our son the first month we tried, so we figured it would be easy to get pregnant this time around too. Well, at least we know that we have been successful at making conception harder... Haha!
Agree 100% Christi. I got pg on the first cycle with DS as well so I had never actually had a BFN in my life until last month. It was so depressing! Fully expecting another BFN this month. Swaying makes the BFNs so much worse! GL to you and definitely enjoy some much deserved time off of the diet and swaying!
Thanks... This is totally off topic, but as parents if little ones, I figured many if you would enjoy this story. My nephew is 21 months old and his parents are not the best at not using inappropriate language. Well, today he is was looking in his toy box and started saying the f word. Repeatedly. Turns out his word for frog is a cross between frog and duck and it comes out.... Well.. You get the idea. Hahah.... Let's just hope he doesn't encounter too many frogs in public before he learns the correct word, huh? 😃
Too cute Christi (or embarassing for the parents!). My DS is obsessed with "riding" things (like riding on his toy car or riding on a slide or whatever). Lately he's been making all of his animal figures kiss and "ride" each other and will say "cow RIDE dog" . Ack, I always am so nervous he's going to start doing that at preschool with the toys there and they will wonder about my parenting!
Thanks for the explanation Nahri!!!
AF showed for me too....so bummed...I totally thought I was pg. It's been a very weird AF too....blah
I'm so sorry pinkhelp! I hope next month is your month!
Where are the BFPs ladies? No idea why August hasn't been as lucky for us as July seemed to be!
Today I'm 9 dpo and *trying* to hold out until Friday 13 dpo. I doubt I'll make it that long! I have very few symptoms compared to last month, so hoping that's a good sign but probably wishful thinking. My imaginary phantom symptom is a crazy good sense of smell. I realize that isn't even logical at 9 DPO but a girl can dream. :)
AF was expected today but has not shown her obnoxious self yet. Still BFN but that happened with my DS too. I'll tell you what though my boobs hurt like they did when I was 4 months pregnant and I was up all night with an absolutely splitting headache that I still have. These are not AF symptoms for me so hopefully in the next few days!
So exciting! Can't wait to see a BFP from you soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nahri
I'm pretty sure I'm 2dpo even though FF is has me at 5dpo and O'ing on CD11 BEFORE my +opk! I think it's wonky because I had an abnormally high temp on the one day I shut our air conditioner off! I think I just got super hot that night! I have 55 charts to look back on and I normally O on CD15 or occasionally on CD14. I'm pretty sure I O'd on CD14 this month which is great since we dtd on CD13 and day before O BD has the highest chance of conception. I'm feeling pretty positive for this month. We were at a wedding in New York without the kids this weekend when we dtd. Then the day after O I felt terrible-- horrible low back pain, diarrhea, and nausea all day. Not sure what was up with that. Thought I ate something bad at the wedding, but DH and I (and his parents) all ate the exact same thing and were fine. Odd. I'm thinking FF should adjust my chart tomorrow if I have another high temp. I won't test till at least 10dpo which is a week from tomorrow.
Hoping that we start getting some BFPs rolling in soon!
Im hoping so bluebonnet! It took 2 days past AF for even a faint positive on my son and I didnt feel trashed like I do right now in the very early weeks like this time. So hopefully its not only a BFP sign but a girl sign too! lol
essnce - sounds promising for you as well! Can't wait for everyone to start testing !
My mom who lives nearby figured out my pink sway today. I had chatted with her last year about vegetarians and runners having more girls and then she's noticed me doing all this psycho behavior and losing 25 lbs in a few months and getting crazy skinny and not eating meat.. anyways, yeah she put it together and said "you're just doing all this so you can get a girl!". I had no idea how to respond. EEK. I kind of freaked out and said "Umm, that doesn't really work that way does it?". Anyways, hoping I'm pg soon so I can stop this swaying nonsense and people stop figuring me out!
Good luck everyone!! Sounds promising essence hope you can join us for match, April, may xx
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DAMN.... I spoke to soon.. It would have been great because the EDD would have been DS 3rd birthday :( Oh well. I cheated on my diet a couple times too many last week but I've been very strict for 3 months now so taking this cycle off and next attempt in the last weeks of September! See you in the future 2WW and good luck to all of you that are close!
I'm so sorry Nahri! GL in late September!!
sorry to hear about more bfn's. I was really hoping to have another april due date. My ds3 was due april 10th but decided to come much earlier and was born march 26th. It's kinda nice though because none of us have the same birth month. Maybe I'll get a may baby then and get pg next month and keep the trend of all separate birth months!
Sorry to hear there has been so many BFN :( August hasn't been a good month but maybe we can turn it around!
So ladies tell me what you think about all the signs:
Cramping for the last week
Pimples
Tired
Frequent urination
Can smell things
and as of today a Stuffy nose/head
I have done two tests, one at I think 9 dpo which I know was too early and then again at I think 11dpo, both were negative. My last AF was 37 days long (cycle just off the pill) and I am now on CD 33 and according to my apps AF should have arrived yesterday. So to me I think they are all really strong signs, Especially now I have a cold as that is what happened with my first pregnancy and the strong smells has got me too, 2 nights ago I nearly gagged at the smell of garlic cooking. BUT I only have 1 more test and I don't want to waste it. When should I test again?
Mars - sounds promising! What type of test is it? If it's an IC I'd probably wait until at least 13 dpo, but ideally 14 dpo. If it's a FRER I'd go ahead and try it anytime after 12 dpo.
With my DS I got a strong positive at 9 dpo with FRER and didn't get a positive with the wondfo tests until 15 dpo (AF was due at 13 dpo).
It's a FRER. I'm hoping I can hold out for a few more days but I just need to know lol! I would have thought I would have got a + on the other tests if I was pg. I think I am around 15dpo now.
How certain are you about your ovulation date? Man if I was 15 dpo I'd have to POAS if I had a FRER :)
I'm not certain. Just going by the app I use to track my cycle. I haven't used opks but I had an increase in CM and cramping around the 30th July. Lol now I'm thinking I'll do it tomorrow,
My DS was due May 8 showed on April 22 which would have been the EDD of this cycle had it of been a BFP. But I almost consider it a blessing thats way too much birthday partying for me to think about LOL a month difference will balance the budget!Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkhelp
Mars - take the test!!!
Ha ha! I just really don't want to waste it. Thinking I might try to hold out until the weekend. Now for someone to turn my brain off so I can not over analyse it for the next 3 days!