What do you think of my sway??

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

LMK if you want a more thorough explanation. This is one of my personal pet peeves because people told me a bunch of similar nonsense too. :) "we don't make girls in our family" Um, yes, yes you do.

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I am TIRED of hearing it EVERY pregnancy. I know I will hear it this pregnancy because they (my in-laws) think 3 kids is too many and they think having 3 boys is crazy. So, I know I will constantly hear about having a boy and no chance of a girl. Which is one of the many reasons why my MIL and I have a great relationship. SO glad to hear that what they have had does not affect what I can have, I have tried to explain this to them and they think I am stupid.

What are my odds of conceiving a girl with out swaying? I think I have read a study that without swaying my odds are like 43% chances of a girl to 57% boy. Which I am totally good with. I will still LOVE a little boy no matter what, I just want to give myself a fighting chance for a girl!

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Originally Posted by maudster

What are my odds of conceiving a girl with out swaying? I think I have read a study that without swaying my odds are like 43% chances of a girl to 57% boy. Which I am totally good with. I will still LOVE a little boy no matter what, I just want to give myself a fighting chance for a girl!

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But keep in mind that this says nothing for YOU, Maud's chances at a baby of a certain gender, though.

Some people may come into swaying 80% likely to conceive a boy, others 65% likely to conceive a girl (at least according to our stats) or even MORE. It's possible, albeit exceedingly unlikely that there are couples 100% likely to conceive a baby of a certain gender. Across the population, this averages out, but it doesn't equate to being any one person's odds, if that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by maudster

I am TIRED of hearing it EVERY pregnancy. I know I will hear it this pregnancy because they (my in-laws) think 3 kids is too many and they think having 3 boys is crazy. So, I know I will constantly hear about having a boy and no chance of a girl. Which is one of the many reasons why my MIL and I have a great relationship. SO glad to hear that what they have had does not affect what I can have, I have tried to explain this to them and they think I am stupid.

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OK so the more wonky explanation:

IF a family "only made boys", or in your case one per generation, their genes would have died out a loooongg time ago. DNA studies have revealed that of all the human males that ever lived, only 40% have genetic offspring alive today. Whereas 80% of all women who ever lived have surviving offspring. So straight away, a family with genes that could "only make boys" would be at a HUGE disadvantage for reproducing.

Additionally, many times throughout all human (and indeed, primate) history, a war or conqueror has come through with the net result that all the males were killed off. So if you "only made boys", boom, that's it, genetic dead end.

Genes that are at a 50% disadvantage to start with and then face repeated opportunities to die out all together, would not have survived to make it in the modern world! Genes are weirdly "smart" things and do not tend to "tie themselves" (quotes because they do not act deliberately) to things that put them at such a megadisadvantage like that.

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

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But keep in mind that this says nothing for YOU, Maud's chances at a baby of a certain gender, though.


Some people may come into swaying 80% likely to conceive a boy, others 65% likely to conceive a girl (at least according to our stats) or even MORE. It's possible, albeit exceedingly unlikely that there are couples 100% likely to conceive a baby of a certain gender. Across the population, this averages out, but it doesn't equate to being any one person's odds, if that makes sense.

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So in theory I am more likely to have a girl, because only around 15% of 3 kid families are all the same gender. Correct?

Not correct. The reason for that is because most of those families already HAD a girl with #1,2, or 3. It doesn't say anything about your chances either statistically (because across the population it averages out to be about 50-50 every time, with every kiddo) or personally, because your indivudual chances have NOTHING to do with statistical averages...example, if one person had 100% chance of a girl, and another had 0% chance of a girl, that would average out to 50-50 odds but that doesn't mean anything for those two people. :)

dang, I was thinking the 15% for one gender family sounded pretty good in my favor.

My DH pointed out that we did the "pull and pray" method in college. So that is probably why we did not get pregnant???

I am STILL waiting on my period, which is odd because I never am late. I have tested twice and they both say negative…so I will continue to wait.

Yep pulling out can be very effective.

I got my period!! YAY, for a second there I was scared I had gotten pregnant with out swaying yet. So since I am 3 days late should I move my expected ovulation date back 3 days also??

Are you usually super regular? It is more likely that O was delayed than your LP lenghtened. But I have a very erratic O and LP, even though my cycle length is usually 28-29 days. While swaying everything has been more erratic for me, though.

As a general rule, yes, but as a practical rule, keep your eyes peeled in case this month is kooky. For some reason our bodies love to throw the curve balls when we are swaying. :)

Yes, I am usually super regular (can feel O pains) but last month I tested and I ovulated like 3-4 days after I thought I would. So I am guessing that is why I started later this month. I started my vitex supplement (400mg) this month, so I hope everything isn't totally wacky this month…but it is what it is. I am just planning on testing twice a day starting at day 13 and then when my test turns positive I will BD.

I hope this is a good sign, getting my body off its regular schedule. The diet is killing me, I want to snack so BADLY!! So fingers crossed I get a positive with the next 3 months.

What should my blood glucose level be at? I just had my numbers taken yesterday for my Health Screening, also my BMI was at 19.2? Good or bad?

I wouldn't worry about your blood glucose provided it's in normal range. Your BMI is fine!

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Originally Posted by maudster

I hope this is a good sign, getting my body off its regular schedule. The diet is killing me, I want to snack so BADLY!! So fingers crossed I get a positive with the next 3 months.

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I would add in a meal if you're really suffering that bad. There's a huge diff. between snacking all day every 15 minutes and eating 3 or 4 meals a day.

Going through the day whiteknuckling it is a recipe for cheating or worse, giving up. Do the doable and you're still not going to be eating in the HE Diet style!

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Originally Posted by maudster

What should my blood glucose level be at? I just had my numbers taken yesterday for my Health Screening, also my BMI was at 19.2? Good or bad?

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Don't worry about the numbers on the blood glucose tests, those fluctuate all over the place and while we use the expression "low blood sugar" what we are really trying to say is not a number on a test, but just that your body has to burn off its stores to keep functioning (you're not getting quick energy from food for at least a good chunk out of the day) THe human body doesn't "like" having low blood sugar and it immediately takes steps to raise it by burning off stores, and I believe it's that process that sways, and not the literal numerical amount of blood sugar in your blood******.

Thanks ladies!! I think that is true if I add in a snack then I will not cheat as much…During the week it is easy, weekend…not so much!

Does Vitex mess with your sex drive?…I feel like since I have started I have like NONE!!

It definitely could. I have a low libido due to pain meds I'm on, so I couldn't tell one way or the other. But considering how it modulates sex hormones it makes complete sense that V would lower libido.

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Originally Posted by maudster

Does Vitex mess with your sex drive?…I feel like since I have started I have like NONE!!

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It did that to me too (really bad! DH was not pleased) and the weird thing was, one of the reasons I was taking it was because several herb sites said it improved libido (despite its name "chasteberry" which prob. should have cued us in LOL)

Yeah…its brutal. It might be something I drop after 2 months TTC

I have seen quite a few gals take it and drop it, then get pg with a girl the month after (me included)

Did you take it AF-O or for a full month?

AF-O and I found that I would not ovulate until I stopped taking it (this was before we were really hip to how bad it delayed ovulation) I did this for 6 months and then my AF got really super light for 2 months and I was like, enough with the vitex already. The month I got pg, I didn't take it at all and the lack of the vitex seemed to make my ovulation occur a couple days before I expected it, and whammo, girl.

I don't like anyone taking it daily. I think it really affects odds of conception negatively.

Thanks!! I think I will try for 2 months and then off of vitex if no pregnancy yet.

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I have been testing my ovulation for this months attempt…my last one was at 9:00 am today (not first morning urine)…It is positive correct??

Yes that's a positive :)

Looks positive to me! FX and GL you catch the egg!!


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Yes it is!!! Catch that egg!

Thanks ladies!!! Fingers crossed!!!!

good luck!

Fx for you!

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I was looking at the spread sheet (again) and I saw lemon or vinegar douche with 73% success….should I add this or is it worth it?? I use Rephresh right after stopping period and then usually not again because I don't want to kill everything. Should I use both?

Noooooo! Do not add douche! That is basically a statistical illusion, bc the ladies douching had overall strict sways. But douching isn't a vety effective pink sway tactic if it does anything to sway at all. And it's way overkill in addition to Rephresh.

Okay!! Thanks so much, I did NOT want to douche, it does not sound fun at all!!

I am having very severe ovulation pains on both sides…is this normal?? I have never felt them until within the last 6 months and not usually on both sides.

Yes, that is totally normal. O pain can vary a great deal from month to month and it usually seems worse when TTC and actively observing every little thing. Follicles develop on both sides and the swelling causes pain. Also pain can ve referred from one side to the other.

I am so glad to hear you aren't douching!

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Originally Posted by maudster

I was looking at the spread sheet (again) and I saw lemon or vinegar douche with 73% success….should I add this or is it worth it?? I use Rephresh right after stopping period and then usually not again because I don't want to kill everything. Should I use both?

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NO. I think the douching is a red herring and it was NOT getting 73% on Ingender, that's for sure. I have a full explanation here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...hts-stats.html

Plus, you cannot mix douche iwth RepHresh anyway as it causes a pH spike - now, we're really not as sold on pH as they were back in the good old days but if you've used REpH. I'd stick with that and not do douche.