Stats are updated.
Stats are updated.
THANK YOU blueeyedguys you are a rockstar!!
Stats updated. There were only 2 sways added since the previous update.
Hi blueeyedguys I noticed I am not included on the spreadsheet, I have posted my sway with updated gender, is there anything else you need me to do? Thankyou :)
I think you guys actually have to go into the spreadsheet to add your data???
If you go to the first post in this thread, there's a link to post your sway to the spreadsheet, mammacass.
I found 4 more sways added to Rainbowflower's sheet instead of the new one. If ScandiMama, Swaying&PrayingForPink, melbo25, and amyanne see this, I would really appreciate having you add your sways to the spreadsheet listed in the first post in this thread.
If they don't see this and add their sways by the time I update again, I'll copy them over.
No problem, Thankyou will do so x
Stats updated.
Thank you! Can't wait to check them out!
geez check out the coffee stats. :agree: we are on the right track ladies.
Do you think it's time to drop licorice root?
While I don't blame anyone who chooses not to take it, in previous incarnations of the sway stats it was as high as 80% for years and also seemed to get good results on IG. I do not believe it could possibly be swaying blue, it makes no sense that it would be, and thus I am very hesitant to drop it (although certainly do not blame anyone who doesn't want to use it)
Yes, I totally remember the percentage being super high when I first started reading on here in fall 2013! My DH was actually taking it when I got pregnant last time. I wonder what's up with the stats? Weird. Maybe people stay on it (because it's so easy to take, just pop a pill) but drop everything else like diet, exercise, and one attempt when they're not getting pregnant right away? So it's the dropping of the really solid girl sway tactics that ends up swaying blue, not the continuation of licorice root.
I think your theory is right, essnce, and also explains the artificially elevated OLE stats. As with LR, it never gets dropped, but bc it's being used by older men/more fertility challenged couples (vs the younger men/highly fertile couples using LR), the OLE couples are more set for pink and LR much more set for blue. So both results are skewed, OLE falsely high, LR falsely low.
MDH related Q for atomic - how bad would it be for me to take a 3 month sway break during which I compiled some multifactorial stats? I.e. LE diet at various lengths + one attempt, LE diet at various lengths + cardio + one attempt, cardio + one attempt, Clomid +1 attempt, Diet + Clomid, Diet + Clomid + 1 attempt, Clomid + cardio, Clomid + Diet + cardio + 1 attempt.
It would be a big project as I would need to read through all sways to determine that diet/1attempt/cardio requirements are met as per my judgement. But I've been itching to do it properly for years...
How much would it eff my sway? Assuming I do the project in 3 months, then go back on diet for 3 months, then start TTC again...so at least 3mo between project and potential conception. Keep in mind I have undetectable testosterone, extremely low cortisol, very low DHEAS and very high SHBG, so I may NEED to boost these.
Suggestions for multifactorial stats welcome though I will start with the biggest sway factors.
I never like to see anyone take time off swaying for anything short of act of God, when they've been at this as long as you, Maiden. What if Goldie shows up in one of those months??
While I would of course appreciate it and love to see the results, I really hate to ask anyone to do anything for me (or that I would benefit from) that may harm their own plans, YK?? I mean I will tell you, I was on here a lot, and working a lot on things like diet plans and so on when I wasn't on here, in 2011 and 2012 and I still got a girl doing all that. I think that in your case you can stand a little "T-raising" or whatever it is that is swaying. But I do not KNOW that, and thus I have to leave the ball in your court really - I do not even know that it would be a problem, that's just a guess, speculation, and so it may be totally academic anyway.
:agree: Exactly. I know people are confused sometimes why I don't just axe everything like jellies, antihistamine, herbs, LR, etc but this is the core reason. I suspect that the stats are skewed because of the fertility factor - that the people who are able to get pregnant with all these things are very likely coming into this experiment we're running here, more set for blue to start out with and this skews the stats. On paper, using every theory out there, they all should sway pink, and I suspect were we to be able to have 1000 cloned couples living identical lifestyles and were able to test for one and only one of these variables at a time we would see this proved in studies - but we can't have that and I hate to lose things that people may want and believe in (because I think if I come out and be all like 'do it my way or the highway' then we'd have fewer new members joining us and would basically doom all those people to the poopy unsafe sway tactics that prevent conception). Additionally, I feel like if I put too much stock into our statistics when I know their limitations, then that really makes me no different from the IG people who would take their stats as if they'd been engraved on clay tablets and handed down from Moses or something. Not even scientists doing studies involving hundreds of people over decades can tell even the simplest things like if you should eat vegetable fat or animal fat for heart disease or whatever they've debunked this week LOL. There is NO WAY that those numbers we have, as great and helpful as they are, are really telling us the magic recipe of how to get a boy or a girl. The overall trends we can see and try to emulate but we can't pin it down as closely as any of us would like at least not by individual sway tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by maidentomother
This is also, to me, underlying the seeming sudden success of e4d vs. one attempt. I started having the less-fertile people going to e4d and even starting off with that from the get go, and the results on e4d are high now and the results with one attempt seem lower than they were. But it doesn't change the history which is that one attempt was really good results for YEARS even as we played around with lots of other sway tactics. The fertility factor colors all our results in weird ways.
Maybe I should add an age category? I'd have to think on the best way to do that.
The TTC/sway break would be for my sanity and to avoid giving birth when my SAD is at its worst (Jan-Mar). Plus I'll be honest, that chart of birth month linked disorders scares the crap out of me! Also, I'd be compiling the stats primarily for myself. Not that I don't love you atomic, and this site, but my motivation is definitely selfish! I want to know and I know how satisfying I find such projects.
It wouldn't be a full break, in the sense that I won't drop diet complete, and I may TTC if it's convenient. The swaying isn't so much an issue as the TTC, though I'd be thrilled to have a boy at this point. It's a lose lose situation bc I don't like wasting a month but at the same time, I'm way too caught up in TTC, way beyond what's healthy.
I think at some point we add in so much stuff that it gets overly confusing. And the groups do overlap quite a bit with many guys in their 30's doing the "younger" sway tactics and then some others, not, because they're smoking or whatever. I don't think it's something we really need to do since we do have studies that show older dads = more girls conceived.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueeyedguys
I'm always down with sanity breaks as needed and if the spirit is moving you then I'd love to see the results for sure. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by maidentomother
Stats updated. Only 1 new sway was added since the last update.
I know we've had a lot of sways lately, ladies - please take the time to update your info! People adding their own info is why our stats are so superior to other sources!!
The Current Results Data still goes to Rainbow's spreadsheet and there must be a link to it too, somewhere, because there were 6 sways added there instead of to the new sheet since the last time I checked it. I'll try to PM the ladies who did their sways there and see if they'd be willing to add them to the current sheet.
Edited to add: I was apparently able to PM 4 of the 6. The other 2 put their usernames on the spreadsheet as Nicole and ScandiMama. Hopefully they'll see their names here and message me or add their info using the link in the first post of this thread.
Added! Sorry I have no clue where I found the other link. There should be a DH soy milk question...for some reason I feel like that made a big difference for us (and he noticed a huge change from it!).
AAAA sorry it's like a hydra every time I think I have found all the links I find more. She's not updating that older thread so everyone post here.
Thank you so much! That was something I decided to start trying about a year ago and so few guys were willing to do it that I hadn't bothered. That one has not gotten good compliance unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by amyanne
ok I think I got it fixed let me know if there still seems to be some leftover linkage.
I thought that the other thread was going to continue to be updated but it isn't so I just changed the link to go to the new spreadsheet. apologies for confusion.
Yeahhhh he complained SO much about it but he did it pretty religiously as long as I bought the chocolate kind. Huge libido change right when he started and change back right when he stopped (the day I got the BFP it all went in the trash!).
Crazy!! Thank you for letting me know that!!!
The chocolate soy milk still has all the same biochemistry to it, for anyone else reading this I know some people have balked at giving their hubs chocolate soy milk because they thought it could sway blue, but it doesn't - it works too and it's really good! :agree: chocolate Silk soymilk :agree: :agree: highly recommend
I can't find the question over soy Milk for dh. So it sways pink? Tia!
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There isn't a question for that for the stats, if that's where you're trying to find one
Yes we've debated about adding this or not. I am sitting on the fence because I think there would be such a wide variety of amounts that they'd drink I think it could be confusing, but may be worth adding. A lot of the DH's wouldn't drink it or tried and then gave up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamgirl01
I do use soy milk in the Custom Plans for DH 12-48 oz. a day (more is better) and yes I do believe it sways pink when men drink it. But I don't get much compliance with it, unfortunately.
Ok. Thanks a lot. I"ll have dh drink it😊
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excuse me ladies .. I'm Italian and I do not understand what is the meaniexcuse me I'm Italian and I do not understand what is the meaning of Dh .another info goes taken aspirin before you conceive ?
excuse me ladies .. I'm Italian and I do not understand what is the meaniexcuse me I'm Italian and I do not understand what is the meaning of Dh .another info goes taken aspirin before you conceive ?
DH = dear husband, your husband or male partner.
We started off using aspirin, but we have found it caused too many side effects, and had neutral results. I no longer recommend it except for those who insist on using it. :)
It's also used by those of us that have a known MTHFR mutation as it helps prevent blood clots and is necessary for implantation. But if you don't have a MTHFR mutation, you don't need to take it as the risks outweigh the benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
How about just Aci jel without lube? In my case I only did Aci jel... And I did this on purpose bc it seemed those who used it with a lube didn't have much success. I'll let you know if it worked for me!
Yes thank you I'm sorry, I mean as a sway tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by essnce629
There are absolutely people who do need to take it for medical reasons and that is fine and absolutely should be continued.