My big boys start senior Kindergarten in a week, and ds3 is starting a once a week morning preschool next week too! I'll actually have one kid-free morning a week - for the first time since having kids!
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My big boys start senior Kindergarten in a week, and ds3 is starting a once a week morning preschool next week too! I'll actually have one kid-free morning a week - for the first time since having kids!
Wow how exciting mocha! I wouldn't know what to do with myself on that kid free morning lol might take up a hobby, no actually I think I would take a nap haha, I am still waiting on a kid free morning! So jealous ;)
I can't believe I'll only have one child home with me on my day off work ... must do something about that :D
Thanks for letting me know about OofB swish. I think purplepoet has been poorly, she was posting on the 2ww thread about a week ago. Hope she's ok.
morning everyone, how are we all today?
I'm 5dpo today and had a significant temperature drop this morning... I wonder if AF is on her way. She arrived at 4dpo last cycle so I was really hoping to have lengthened my LP more than that this cycle as I'm taking a bit more B6. We shall see! So glad I'm not TTC right now or this would be really stressing me.
Uh oh.
I didn't think I would need to visit this thread, but we had an "oops" because I'm fairly sure I ovulated about 3 days sooner than I thought I would. Neither of us did a sway either because I was going to track how things go on my current supplements, get DH started on supplements if necessary, and do some other adjustments like ordering better pH strips, repHresh , try temping a little bit more. I'm a little bit freaked out.
I haven't been able to test CM pH this time around or DH's sperm's pH. My pH strips have gone missing. My temping has not been very successful either. I couldn't find repHresh in the stores and I had no lime juice or vinegar in the house to make an emergency douche. I had to go to work right away after we DTD. I still jumped and dumped, I have been alternating between Zyretec and Benadryl, and I'm not eating a lot, but I rarely do anyway.
We DTD but DH didn't finish. I know that pre-ejactulate can contain live sperm, though. About 3 hours after that, I checked the CM and cervical position/feel and it was definitely looking and feeling fertile friendly. The day after is probably most likely when I ovulated because the CM was very clear and there was a lot of it and cervix still felt the same. I was also bloated which tends to happen to me around ovulation.
I'm still having some EWCM but definitely not as much as the past 2 days.
O_o
I really don't know what to do or think. Do you ladies think I should stop taking Vitex and SP for now? I'm thinking it is unlikely I conceived, but... gah! :worry:
I'm sorry for being so rude, but I forgot to say good pink luck to everyone swaying this month! :)
fresas, I don't usu. check this thread but I just happened to see it. If DH didn't finish, it's super unlikely that you are preggo. Studies have shown that withdrawal is actually quite reliable means of birth control when used right...most of the oopsies are because of "pilot error" and not because of the tiny amounts of sperm in the pre-ejac. It takes millions of sperm for only a tiny handful to survive to make it to the egg, the odds that such a small amount of sperm could statistically survive to enable enough to make it to the egg and fertilize it (because it takes more than one sperm to penetrate the egg) is very slim.
I would prob. stop the vitex and SP just in case, but honestly, I think you're in the clear.
Good luck
rainbow, I just happened to stumble into this thread which I normally don't check, and I just wanted to reassure you that short LP is quite common while breastfeeding and the B6 and vitex if you're taking that, will set things right in time. GL.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
I was ready to say ´implantation dip!´but then I read you´re not TTC yet lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
Atomic - I'll be starting vitex whenever AF turns up this cycle!
Indira if only! lol - we did DTD unprotected on the 2nd day of my temp rise, (i.e. 2DPO) so certainly not holding out much hope of implantation from that :)
Fresas - if he didn't finish in there it is unlikely... fingers crossed for you, though
Atomic and Rainbow, thank you for your responses. That makes me feel a little bit better.
I stopped the vitex and SP just in case. I'm still taking my other supplements (MVI, calcium + D 600mg/200, benadryl or zyrtec, metformin 500mg, cyclobenzaprine as needed, and ritalin as needed).
I also examined the cervix again today and it is definitely no longer accepting sperm donations as it is high and hard. I really don't like touching my cervix, just fyi. ;)
If I did not happen to conceive, I'm going to buy all of the things I said I would buy for next cycle. I definitely want to feel as prepared as possible.
Started Vitex yesterday. Hope it helps bring on O. CD 46 for me today. Last night my opk turned super dark but it was after the ten minute window (it was def neg before ten minutes but I checked it again sometime between 10 minutes and an hour later). So hoping it's a good sign but I've had that happen before so not getting my hopes up too high. Like Swish, I think I dropped too much weight and wasn't getting enough calories and I think that's what caused my O to be so delayed. So I've switched from fat free milk/yogurt to reduced fat to get more fat and calories. And I treat myself to some ice cream. Don't really want to gain any weight cause I know that's not good for the sway, but I am way lower than my lowest adult weight so hope that's enough (I am 5'6 and my lowest adult weight is 130...I started my sway at 135 and am now down to 120). I am planning a baby shower this month and my ODS is starting preschool so hoping that by keeping my mind off my lack of O and the sway in general that I will lower any sway related stress and hopefully that will help bring on O too.
FX Chicky and fresas x
Chicky, I'm so sorry this is happening to you, it's rubbish. If you really think the weight loss has caused no ov you must eat to gain a couple of pounds back. After all no ov means no baby regardless of swaying!! In the end my period came I'm pretty sure I didn't ov at all as I kept a close eye on cp and know it was firmly closed, low and hard. Gl, I hope af shows soon!
still waiting for AF here! 7dpo today and another temp below coverline this morning, so expecting the witch any time now. At least 7dpo is an improvement on 4dpo last cycle... and I'll be starting my vitex this week! :D
That's good news that it's lengthened, rainbow!
it's a step in the right direction :)
I upped vit B6 from 30mg to 50mg this month... do you think I should stick at 50 and just add the vitex or add the vitex and also up the B6?
Ok, so I just checked at cervix is SHOW with TONS of EWCM and cramping. I just tested with two difference ICs and got clear negatives, but I'm worried that with all these other strong signs O might be imminent and I might miss my egg if we don't dtd tonight. I have two digis left from last cycle, but I really don't want to buy more since they're $50 a box here in Canada. I was going to wait to use them until the ICs showed an almost +, but I just don't know how much I can trust my 'normal' timeline since I've just started taking a full dose of SW this week after taking only a half dose for a couple of months. I'm only on CD10 and have never ovulated earlier than CD13. Do you think I'm safe to save my digi until tomorrow and trust in the IC? I'll test again with an IC this evening, but I usually get a fade-in, and both tests barely had any line at all. We weren't planning to dtd tonight since we need to start on a compressed frequent BD run before we can make our attempt.
I don't know mocha - but since taking Saw P I ovulated twice much earlier than ever before (cd13 then this month cd11). Do you ever get a burst of EWCM a few days before you O? I often get that 3 or 4 days in advance - but my cervix wouldn't usually be SHOW at that point. I think if I were you I'd use a digital because you'll be so sick if you somehow miss O this month!
Mocha I would trust that IC if your urine was concentrated enough.
Or if you want to be sure to not miss the egg, have him release once, then DTD this evening and continue frequent?
I had EWCM and a soft, open cervix on Cd8 but I haven´t ovulated yet, IC didn´t turn compl. positive.
I think it was a spike of estrogen but not enough to ovulate.
It is interesting that you seem to O early, because we were O buddies last cycle, remember? and unlike previous cycles in which I o-ed on CD 20, 17 and 16, now it looks like I´m going to O early too, today Cd11 and a lot of EWCM.
Maybe we´re both following the moon in some way?
Or perhaps after 3-4 months on the diet, after a first ´shock´ our bodies recover in some way and make up estrogen more easily??
Well, danger averted - I found an extra stash of digis in my medicine cabinet, so I decided to use one today. It was negative.
That's interesting about our cycles, Indira - I wonder if it has something to do with our reaction to the phases of the moon? I'm just disappointed I have so much EWCM this month - last month I hardly had any and thought it was a good sign that the diet was changing my chemistry.
Z - I normally get EWCM and have a soft, open cervix for a few days before I O, so I'm not completely surprised by the -, but thanks for the info about how SP might change my cycle - I think I'll test 3 times a day with an IC and once a day with a digi from here on out to make sure I don't miss an early O.
OT a little, but what does "FX" means? lol I cant find what it means anywheres lol
Fingers crossed :DQuote:
Originally Posted by XXdreaming
That's good, mocha! X
I found my cycles alternating between early O and late O (the last 3 were cd13, cd15, cd11) and the ones where I ovulated earlier I had more O pains and more EWCM. I just wonder if those are the more fertile months - and perhaps the lack of EWCM was good for your girl sway but not good for getting pregnant mocha! I like Indira's idea about releasing once today then beginning frequent BD every night until you've ovulated (you could do that again tomorrow like you suggested on your other thread but I wouldn't give yourselves a hard time over it - it'll only raise your testosterone!!).
I was tempted to do that - release once then dtd tonight for real, but I thought that wouldn't be enough for frequent bd? Instead I thought we'd better release twice today (once on his own, once on a condom), then dtd tomorrow for real (maybe even after having him release one more time). In all honestly, though, it would make my life soooooo much easier if we could just release once then start with our attempts. As I've said elsewhere, dh is really starting to lose patience with me with all this swaying stuff.
I think you have to go with your gut feeling - I think maybe I'd want to do something else to lower count if I wasn't doing frequent BDing in the strictest sense, maybe a little Sylk or one dose of Rephresh now and not again, but I know you dropped those. Rainbow made a really good point that those things may do as much to lower count as frequent BDing does and that both may be too much for some couples. Whatever decision you make will be the right one for you!
Hmm...good point. I admit I was eying my Rephresh today and thinking about using a fingertip full today since anytime after today I'll be cutting too close for comfort. Maybe I'll use a little after all and just have dh release once before we dtd. I'm going to steer clear of the Sylk again, though - I just think it was too much in combo with the Rephresh!
I agree one or the other - and at least with Rephresh you can use it once and not worry about it again. GL mocha - the diet is obviously doing the biggest chunk of the swaying for you. I know it may have lowered your fertility 'too' much but perhaps with relaxing on the frequent BDing and just using a little Rephresh in its place that may tip the scales and get you your BFP -with the diet still lowering your fertility to get the balance right between swaying girl and actually getting pregnant!!
You're right - I was thinking of dropping frequent BD if I didn't get pregnant this month anyway. Maybe I'll just figure I've dropped frequent BD instead of Rephresh this month, and maybe that combo will work for me.
I really, really hope so. Now get busy :D
Ok, I used some Rephresh (just a fingerful) and had him release. Now I have to decide whether or not to dtd for real tonight, or whether I'd be better to use a condom. I have a feeling he'd think I'm crazy if I suggest he put on a condom since the whole point is to get pregnant, so maybe we should just go for it. I'll let you all know tomorrow what I decided!
GL mocha!
I decided to have him release again in the evening instead of dtd - I just want to make sure I have no regrets about my sway. He's at work now, but when he gets home I *might* ask him to release once in the early evening, then dtd for real before bed. Either that, or we'll just dtd without the extra release - I'll see what his mood is when he gets home.
Do you think if we do 3 releases then dtd we can just dtd once every day from here on in and consider ourselves caught up with frequent bd? Or do we have to bd twice a day through O at this point?
My cm has turned that same cloudy/watery it did at O last month, and my cervix is no longer SHOW. m change is due to the Zyrtec I took last night since it's a dramatic change since yesterday. I think I would be worried I missed O except I still haven't gotten a positive OPK and my temp was still very low this morning. I think O will come on schedule on Friday or Saturday.
I honestly don't know mocha, I wish I did! If DH is willing to release by himself in the mornings and you DTD in the evenings then that's great but from what you've said I don't think he'd be impressed with that suggestion. I know you were against a JAD but I do wonder whether DTD just once each day with a JAD might have a similar effect without the pain in the arse of having to do it twice (or having DH fed up with the whole thing!).
Hmmm...I'll have to give that some thought. I definitely wouldn't JAD for all my attempts (I just NEED to get pregnant this cycle or I think I'm going to go completely batty), but I could do that until I get my +OPK, at least. I just feel like JAD is taking a step backwards when I'm trying to find ways to make it more likely I'll get pregnant. I just wish there was some way of knowing exactly how important low sperm count is to the overall sway. I like to think my 20lb weight loss and diet changes will sway more powerfully anyway, + I used the Rephresh and am downing Diet Pepsi from now until I O.... I'm also happy that the EWCM seems to be disappearing with the Zyrtec, which will help, right?
I'm always so stressed in the days leading up to O! I always feel better once the deed is done and the power is out of my hands.
If you're not convinced on the frequent BD/low sperm count and you're confident in the other parts (and I think you're right to be!) then forget about the stress and just do it how ever many times you need to do it to get in a few attempts around O - you've been BDing through O (and very close to O before that) so perhaps lowering sperm count is why you haven't been getting pregnant at all!
My DS2 said today 'what if you lay another baby mummy'. (I've tried telling him that mummy's give birth to babies but he always refers to it as laying a baby :D) I said 'would you like that?' and both DS1 and DS2 say yes, so I ask whether they would like a boy baby or a girl baby. DS1 says he wants a boy baby and DS2 says he'd like a girl baby and just as I'm going all squishy inside at how cute he is he says 'then when she's older we can play with her bras and knickers!'. For goodness sake, he's 4 years old!!! So at least I have some little people who'd be very happy for me to make another little boy and perhaps I should be worried about bringing a girl into a house filled to the brim with testosterone (and I think that includes me!!).
Lol, z, I love that, so cute!!! Boys are truly fab!!! Mocha, I'm not chiming in with the frequent bedding as I have no idea, sorry!!!! I do however think that you arebdoing so much to sway and over kill on the releasing/bedding may mean not getting pregnant at all. Af over for me so I'm starting the frequent bedding again soon and keeping my fx that I ov this month!!!
I feel like my advice should come with a health warning too mocha - obviously I have no clue and am just regurgitating what I'm read on this site and what makes sense to me. I know you know that though!! We all just want you to get pregnant now :D
You too swish, my goodness you've waited a long time for this next attempt!!
I know!! It's a joke, got to laugh though! So much going on in the real world at the moment I'm not too focused on my lack of pregnancy!