Magical March 2016 TWW

OK, For those of you that take Clomid, Do you have to go in for ovary checks? My RE wants me to come in at the end of this week for Progesterone bloodwork and to do an internal examine to check my ovaries to make sure the Clomid did not cause any cysts. For some reason it just scares me to have the internal examine for fear that it might disrupt things in case I am pregnant this cycle. Didn't know if this is normal procedure or not. I thought maybe they did it by ultrasound but the nurse said no they do an internal exam.

Have any of you had to take Progesterone supplements? I think I only ovulated Sunday or yesterday and fear if I go in on Friday and my Progesterone level isn't high enough by then they will want me to supplement. They tried to push it on me in the past, my level was 10.8 on day 7dpo and I read that anything over 10 is normal but they still wanted me to supplement even before having a BFP. I fully believe that when you get pregnant then it will signal your body to make more progesterone.

I don't believe in P supplements and y8u shouldn't need them on Clomid. I don't see why you need an internal exam but I wouldn't be concerned, as pap smears which are more invasive are ok in pregnancy. They won't be anywhere near your uterus. I think you might not have Oed yet tfahn, since you still haven't had a proper temp rise. I would err on the side of caution and not get your P tested too soon. I certainly don't think you could have Oed before yesterday.

I had SO much EWCM yesterday. It was like I was 20 again! Still plenty today but not gushing like yesterday. Anyone else had a lot more fertile CM the cycle after Clomid? It's such a change after how dry I was on it. I got a TRUE positive OPK today, both on my strips and a CB digital. Only my 3rd one ever in over 6 years of OPKing! O should be tomorrow, CD17.

Maiden, I had great EWCM this cycle on Clomid but I drinking lemon water twice a day for 2 weeks so I think that helped and took Mucinex for a few days too.

I wouldn't let them do a pap when I was pregnant either :) ( I did have it done about 2 months after giving birth though). I just read a few stories of women having paps in early pregnancy and then having miscarriages that same week, I'm 99% sure they they are unrelated to the pap but I am overly cautious.

I really don't believe in progesterone supplements either. When they wanted me to started taking them at 7DPO when my level was in the normal range, it just threw red flags at me that they are supplement happy. I am not a good patient, I don't follow doctors blindly. I research and form my own opinion on matters before proceeding.

Pretty sure I ovulated yesterday, today's temp rise is a normal 1 dpo temp for me. After 6 days in a row of BD'ing I better have ovulated! Didn't plan on that many times but it is just the way it ended up.

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Pinklady - fx you get a bfp soon.

Tfahn - no experience with Clomid but does sound like they are supplement happy etc.

Maiden - wow, sounds like some great fertile cm there. No experience with Clomid though. I guess you didn't have any luck getting any donor sperm.

I posted my chart above, looks like I'm out, I will expect AF to arrive today going by that drop in temp. Dh & I had a big argument last night so feeling really crappy & then to wake up with a temp drop has really topped things off.


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I'm really sorry pinklady fx for a late bfp.

Farmgirl hope your temp jumps back up for a sneaky bfp. How long is your lt phase usually?

Any luck with donor sperm maiden?

Tfahn yay for 1dpo!! I'm confused? How do they do an internal to check for cysts? I also would've thought this would be done with u/s?

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Pbn normally my lt is 12-13 days. 12 dpo today so was expecting AF tomorrow or Friday but wouldn't be the first time for it to be a bit shorter.


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Fx pink lady!!! Thinking of you!!


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I have had ovary checks while taking clomid, tfahn. I usually have them around 8dpo or so. He just checks to make sure I don't have a cyst on my ovaries and then gives me a prescription for more clomid. It is honestly really disheartening because it always made me feel like I was out that month. I am not doing it this month since my hsg said my tubes are blocked. I don't think I went in on the cycle I miscarried either. I could be wrong though. I was never given Progesterone supplements, although my RE was going to try doing a second hcg shot this cycle. I obviously didn't end up doing that. Your chart looks really similar to mine, lol! I hope that is a good sign. I don't remember ever having such a weird temp chart!! I've had so many big dips this cycle. FX we both actually ovulated! :D

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5dpo and bored
My younger sister and her husband and daughters went to Florida today for two or three weeks, for spring vacation. I'm gonna miss them

Momamia, when they did the ovary checks was it by ultrasound?

Yes fingers crossed for more high temps to show ovulation

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Momamia, when they did the ovary checks was it by ultrasound?

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Nope. It was a manual exam, I guess, for lack of a better description. TMI but he just stuck one hand up my hoohaa and pushed up toward my ovary and then pushed down from the top with the other hand to kind of pinch my ovary between his fingers. It is not very comfortable.

Fx princessmom! Bear in mind you may be a day over in dpo as cd17 could be o day? When will you start testing?

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I've read different things some say that a hpt won't show a positive until at least nine ten days after implantation but with so many ladies on here showing earlier I don't know what to think. My clinic said not to do any hpt at all as they would all show negative and to wait for the blood test on Sunday which is mothers day. The irony!!!!! I cried myself to sleep last night again and my the other half seem to be on different planets right now. I get are you ok? Me yeh I'm fine ( not really but I can't even articulate the hurt I feel inside) and then he just sits there. Why can't he just talk to me!!!!!!! I've got work today again and if it's anything like yesterday the tears just well up every 2 seconds . It's the end of the line with try and I wanted it to work so desperatly , I know inside I haven't given up all hope. I just don't have any symptoms at all now so I think maybe I lost them

So so sorry pink lady, I'm so sorry you are going through this! Maybe you need to open up and chat to DH have a good hard cry on his shoulder.

Ps what country do you live in? Mother's Day in March that's weird.


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Not a great temp jump this morning like I was hoping. Woke up feeling nauseous with an upset stomach, staying home from work today since I can't seem to go more than 40 minutes without throwing up. Tried some saltines and water and that was a no no, hopefully it passes soon.

Sorry, tfahn! I hope you feel better soon!

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I've read different things some say that a hpt won't show a positive until at least nine ten days after implantation but with so many ladies on here showing earlier I don't know what to think. My clinic said not to do any hpt at all as they would all show negative and to wait for the blood test on Sunday which is mothers day. The irony!!!!! I cried myself to sleep last night again and my the other half seem to be on different planets right now. I get are you ok? Me yeh I'm fine ( not really but I can't even articulate the hurt I feel inside) and then he just sits there. Why can't he just talk to me!!!!!!! I've got work today again and if it's anything like yesterday the tears just well up every 2 seconds . It's the end of the line with try and I wanted it to work so desperatly , I know inside I haven't given up all hope. I just don't have any symptoms at all now so I think maybe I lost them

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I'm so sorry Pinklady! I think sometimes our DH's don't realize how important this is to us. I agree with Magical though. You should sit him down and tell him exactly what you're thinking. He can't be supportive if he doesn't know what's going on. I hope that your dr's office is right and you get a surprise bfp!! :D :hugs:

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I've read different things some say that a hpt won't show a positive until at least nine ten days after implantation but with so many ladies on here showing earlier I don't know what to think. My clinic said not to do any hpt at all as they would all show negative and to wait for the blood test on Sunday which is mothers day. The irony!!!!! I cried myself to sleep last night again and my the other half seem to be on different planets right now. I get are you ok? Me yeh I'm fine ( not really but I can't even articulate the hurt I feel inside) and then he just sits there. Why can't he just talk to me!!!!!!! I've got work today again and if it's anything like yesterday the tears just well up every 2 seconds . It's the end of the line with try and I wanted it to work so desperatly , I know inside I haven't given up all hope. I just don't have any symptoms at all now so I think maybe I lost them

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Pinklady I'm so sorry for what you're going through. I also have a dh that never wanted to talk about anything. I think someone else suggested it but I would need to sit him down and force him to listen to how I feel. He never really gave me what I wanted but he did try when he saw my intense emotions. Some guys just aren't feelings guys I guess.

I have cried myself to sleep too and I'm so sorry you have that horrible feeling. I know nothing anyone says can make it better but I hope you get some good news soon.


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tfahn, I am the same with drs. I totally understand your POV. I looked at your chart more closely and I do think you're 2dpo. The one high temp with an open circle and high temps on Clomid are misleading, but you are in your typical early post O temp range. My post O temps on Clomid were actually a bit low, so maybe you're the same. Btw, I did have a scan after O last cycle, on Clomid. I requested it though.

Momamia, I'm sad you didn't get the trigger shots but I'm still optimistic for you. Though I think you Oed at least 1 day later than FF thinks, maybe even two.

farmgirl, fx AF stays away and your temp goes back up. I'm sorry about the fight with your DH. It's a rough time of month.

pinklady, hang in there! It's true that most men suck at talking about deep emotional issues especially regarding TTC. Fx for your blood test.

DF was able to return a day early so I insrminated at 5am today. Unfortunately, I think I was in tensing my kegels too much bc the semen didn't really make it very far inside, just made a huge mess outside. I was so upset! I couldn't even scoop any back in. He won't be able to go again today though I will try tomorrow anyway. I think I Oed around noon at the earliest, and maybe I'm popping another egg as the pain has barely dissipated now at 4pmish. It's the worst O pain I've had in quite a while.

Pbn3, I have not been able to find many male escorts at all. I don't think there's much demand. But I'll keep looking bc I do need another donor. I really wish people here used Craigslist or something similar!

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6dpo feeling out took temp hour early it was 98.42 then check again few min later and was 98.20 so strange. And I haven't been sleeping good this month

My AMH level came back at 8.5ng/ml. Is that good or bad? I really don't know what it should be at my age (I turn 29 in a few weeks).

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My AMH level came back at 8.5ng/ml. Is that good or bad? I really don't know what it should be at my age (I turn 29 in a few weeks).

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I would post a separate thread asking Atomic. She'll know!

Got my results back from bw and apparently all is in normal range :)

Maiden oh no :( hope df provides you with more and you catch what is hopefully the second egg!

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Glad all is good with you Pbn3! Did your DH ever have a sperm analysis?

No lol! He made a joke about maybe he's firing blanks which kinda gave me an opening but I really don't want to push things atm so I'll see how this cycle plays out and go from there :) How are you going? What cd are you on?

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Got my results back from bw and apparently all is in normal range :)

Maiden oh no :( hope df provides you with more and you catch what is hopefully the second egg!

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Excellent, Pbn!!! :)

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Maiden - good luck, hope some swimmers found their way

Pbn - so happy your results came back normal.

As I expected I got another temp drop this morning & AF started once I got home from school & daycare drop off. Have felt so down yesterday & today. Dh & I need to have a chat about things. I was still cranky with him yesterday morning & made a sarcastic comment about how if I'm not pregnant this time maybe it's a sign we shouldn't have another one & he agreed. It's not how I really feel as I want another baby so bad but am wondering if he meant it or if he just agreed cause he was still cranky too. Am going to try to get him to let go of shettles timing, I'm worried that maybe I did o same day as +opk last cycle & we may have missed it.


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Ksmom, that's a great AMH level. Mine was about 5 at age 34.5, last August.

Farmgirl, oh no, I'm sorry your DH said that. I hope he was just trying to agree with you. Boooo for AF.

Pbn3, so glad your BW results came back normal. Good luck getting the SA, I had quite a time with DF doing his.

DF was able to produce a 2nd batch at 2:30am today. It was only 1.5ml, vs the 5ml I made a mess of yesterday. I got most of this batch in though, I think. I believe I Oed between noon and midnight based on when my O pain was most severe. I do think I probably popped 2 eggs and I'm praying there was a good gap between them. It's so strange to have 2 attempts in 20 hours! But I'm definitely ready to just be pregnant, regardless of gender. I'm still doing the diet though, I'll stick with that no matter what.

I started cramping this morning and have had bleeding like a period I just cried . I knew it was coming so I'm not suprised. This is my second ivf attempt and second time transfer has failed . This was a first fresh cycle tho, I am on day 10 of my embryo transfer. I'm lying here still hoping that there could be some hope for me and it could all turn out ok. Other half has left and gone to work I feel so angry at him , nothing is ever as important as work. Probably won't hear from him all day. I can't believe I will never have my baby girl, I can see her in my mind but I guess a dream is all it will ever be as we can't afford anymore ivf. We have two beautiful sons which I am thankful for probably why other half isn't too bothered each time it fails . I'm gutted but just go to get on with it

I'm sorry pink lady. :(

My chart, I got my temp rise today:

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So sorry Pinklady.

Got a good temp rise this morning and FF gave me my crosshairs!

Today is CD26. I think I ovulated on CD13. I got a FAINT positive line this morning on a cheap test

I tried to uploaded here. I don't know if I should be excited??

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I see the second line BertieBear, Do you see color in the line? Maybe get a First Response test since they are more sensitive. Looks promising.

I'm so sorry Pinklady!! :hugs:

bertiebear, I would definitely go get a frer!!! I can totally see that line!!! :bluecheer: :cheer:

Oh I see it!!! That looks like the positives I got on the cheapie tests. FX for a sticky bean!!

bertiebear, congrats! That totally looks like a BFP to me.

tfahn, will you be testing early? I think we are the closest to each other in terms of dpo.

Farmgirl sorry again :( and things are often said in the heat of the moment that arent meant, especially when ttc.

So happy you got another batch Maiden!! What a shame there's no way to store batches at home! Would make your life a helluva lot easier! Back in the 2ww!! Fx!

Tfahn yay for you being in 2ww and fx!! Could you post your chart when you get a chance?

Bertiebear I can see that line easy!!!! Congratulations and please post your frer bfp or progression on IC's :)!

Pinklady I'm sorry again :( were you given any chance at all even small of conceiving naturally?


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Maiden, I will start testing at 9DPO so next Wednesday the 9th.