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The finality of #3 is what has definitely been harder on me. This is IT. I'm a girl mom. LOL. I'm having a better day today than I've had in a the last two weeks so that's a good thing. FX you get a good nub shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Because you have SO many shots that are so consistent, I think it is unlikely you will hear anything OTHER than girl ... it's when there's just one photo that I think nubs can end up looking like something other than what they are. I think you're really in good shape to hear "girl" so I would say ... FIND OUT :) Think of how happy you'll be the rest of your pregnancy ... and oh ... the shopping you'll get to do ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Glittergirl
I'm trying to get excited about shopping for another girl but right now it's still hard for me. I so badly want to buy boy's clothes for once, which I'm sure all of you are like what?!?! why?!?! Lol. But I do. I might just have to go get an entire boys layette and donate it to the local pregnancy center so that I can bless a woman who really needs it. In a weird way I think that could help me heal some more.
Princess, HUGS. It is OK to be a bit down. Be gracious with yourself. Yes you had a tragic loss that reminded you how precious a baby is (I read your blog with tears pouring down; thank you for sharing) but this is a different pregnancy; it's OK to have hopes for it too. As much as we would like to, we can't control our emotions and our desires for a gender. And don't feel bad about wanting that and sharing when you're down; we're all here bc we wanted a DG, not because we DON'T love the DC we already have.Quote:
Originally Posted by princesssarah34
Remember too that pregnancy hormones are real and they are buggers!
Awww...thanks, Begonia. I'm glad you had a better day today. You're going to raise those girls to be strong, beautiful women who will make you proud. Every day will get better, and although I definitely don't want you to disappear on us, I'm told GD gets a lot better when you stop visiting these sorts of boards where we all obsess over gender constantly. Lots of women out there are completely happy raising one gender families and have never heard of GD. If fate decides to give me boy #4, I'm going to do my best to move on and put everything into raising them as sensitive, caring boys who enjoy spending time with their Mom ;).
Purplefairy when is your scan? FWIW the FMU wasn't right for me ... I was consistently shockingly high, like an 8, and am having a girl. Who knows?!?! FX you get your DD!
Man, Mocha that's another one that was wrong for me, the heartrate. Really all the OWT (including Ramzi theory) pointed to boy this time for me and I hate to say it but that's part of the reason I felt SUCH a let down, KWIM? I felt like with the sway, and the OWT ... for SURE I'd hear boy. I do hope the heartbeat is an accurate predictor for you DM!!!
Oh my gosh your scan is SO CLOSE!!!! Totally will be stalking you. And thank you for your sweet words on me deleting my sway. It was cathartic. It really did help me a ton. Not as much as kissing some sweet baby cheeks will help me in February but it did help :)
Princess that is super sweet! What a precious, precious gift.
Thank you Mocha! I keep trying to stop coming and then I get sucked back in :) It's hard right now because there are so many women that I am invested in; you know? I do totally agree that there are loads of women who probably have no clue about GD. Lucky ladies. Sometimes I curse the day I googled "having a boy after two girls" but ah, whaddya do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
And FWIW I've said it before but I would have loved to raise boys. I am certain that you will do a fab job raising those boys into wonderful men who adore their mother. My DH and his mom are super tight. And I adore her too ... we talk more than I talk to my own mom! FX you get a DD of your own but if not, FX you get a loving DIL and some sweet grandbaby girls. I'm already praying like crazy for some SIL's and a whole mess of grandsons to mess up my house!
LOL, by SIL I don't mean sisters-in-law. Got two of those already. Sons-in-law. Oh man they better be good, 'cause my girls are awesome:cool:
Begonia - my parents wanted a boy too (they had 2 girls then mum had cervical cancer and had a hysterectomy) and they now have 4 grandsons (and 1 granddaughter) with 2 more on the way!
DM - that's wonderful that you heard baby's heartbeat. I too am having that panic about going for my 12 week scan and not seeing a heartbeat. It's only natural when you have nothing but a line on a stick to go by up until that point!
Ugh, I'm sorry, I can't remember who else posted and what I wanted to say - I'm sat here feeling rather sick and planning to head off to my bed! I made the mistake of wearing an empire line top today and I looked so pregnant! I said to DH when he got home from work that perhaps I shouldn't have worn this top and he looked at me and gasped! I don't think anybody would be rude enough to ask though :D
Zan that's kinda funny about the empire top! Those things can make a flat bellied woman look pregnant though!
The way my girls love salt and potatoes I will definitely end up with some grandsons :rofl:
Thats so exciting DM!! Can you video the scan for us to obsess over??? Even if its wobbly we just might pick up some decent clues:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by DoulaMama
Hi Girls, I'm so gutted right now:( My puppy has come down with Parvovirus and is on an iv in the vets office for 3 days most likely. So that means we had to cancel our trip this weekend, hence no ultrasound:( It's been such a crappy week. My grandma passed away 2 days ago(she was my last living grandparent)and even though we weren't that close, it was shocking and unexpected.
I cried so much yesterday that my eyes are almost swollen shut. When it rains it pours.
Oh DM, thats truly awful:( Losing your last grandparent is so sad. Not to be a downer but is the parvo the same that humans can carry?
I'm sooo sorry about your puppy, DM. I know how hard it is to have your pet at the vet. I'm also sorry about your Grandma - sad news often travels in pairs. Hopefully you'll be able to re-schedule your u/s for sometime soon.
ELP - thank you:) And no, it's a different Parvo....thank goodness.
Mocha- thank you:)
I'm thinking I'll just wait for a 17w u/s now. Makes me sad but we don't have an u/s place that's close to us and I'll have to travel to one:(
Oh DM, I'm sorry {hugs} x
Just popping on for a minute to say SOOOO Sorry I've been MIA...Been on vay-cay visiting family this month and Internet access is limited. Got TONS to tell you all but I'll probably wait until my OB visit when I get back in 2 wks. Hopefully it's good news...I'm trying to stay positive. I'll try to log on again next week. Hope you're all doing well!!!
I haven't gotten a chance to read any posts for about 2 wks but I did see yours, DM...I am so very sorry!!! :HH:
DM - I'm so sorry to hear about your grandma, hun. :( I hope your puppy gets better asap!
Dm - So sorry about your grandma, hope you are doing ok. And hoping your puppy is better too. :-(
Thank you so much girls :HH: You're all so sweet. xoxo Today has been a better day. I'm just hoping and praying that when the vet calls to tell me how she's doing, it'll be good news.
I just can't believe the cleaning we have to do now:( We have to disinfect our entire house and our entire backyard with bleach water. It's going to take us weeks to make sure this virus is gone. Apparently it can live in the soil for 7 years, on soft surfaces for 1 month and hard surfaces for 6 months. Ugh. What a complete mess this is.
Really? That sounds awful DM! More {hugs}
OotB - Your post is intriguing! I hope everything is ok x
I heard some very sad news yesterday. A lady I used to work with had a little girl - well she's all grown up now and we're friends on FB. She's in her early twenties and had a baby by emergency c-section a couple of weeks ago and while they were in there they found an unusual growth and she's now been told she has cervical cancer. Can you imagine? Just awful.
I'm actually feeling fine (and happy!) about a boy or a girl baby now and I don't feel as though I would ever want to try again for a girl if this is a boy. I already know we did what we could for a girl and if we have a boy then it's meant to be and I'm meant to be a boy mum and I'll move forward and make sure I do it well!
DM....so sorry to hear about both your Grandmother and the new puppy! Our puppy had gotten it to when we first got him(that's was 6yrs ago)...but we caught it in time and he is a healthy dog now!
I tried to catch up on all the posts so if I missed something important...sorry about that! :happy:
Things here are ok.....I have not had any morning sickness at all for almost 7days!!! I am a little freaked out by this because I have always gone into the 12-13 week of pg with m/s. So I have been trying to not over think that something is wrong!:nails:
I keep telling myself things are fine...you still have other pg symptoms!! And you started having m/s at 5 weeks and that is not the norm for you either!
So I am hoping that because I had the m/s earlier it just ran it's course and ended earlier! :fingers:
Z, thanks for the extra hugs:) I have been feeling the same way! I have been dreaming of a little boy with dark hair, looks like my hubby, and we name him Jamieson:) I'm at peace with this right now:) I keep looking at my incredible little 15 mos old man and he's just such a doll. I know that it will all be ok if I have another sweet boy. It's actually a nice feeling. (((hugs))) xo
Princess- it's nice to hear that your pup recovered! I hope that she'll do the same. And yay for m/s being gone!!!!! Mine is too!!! Yippee!!
DM and princesssarah - I'm so happy you're both feeling better :D I haven't stopped eating for long enough to feel sick lately ... I must do something about that!
It's DS3's 2nd birthday on Sunday - I can't believe my baby is so big already!
Hola chicas!
DM, hun I'm so sorry about all that rockin' your world at once! That's just rough! Hugs to you, and hope you get happy news from the vet soon. Made me give my pup an extra cuddle; they really are like furry family.
I feel better these days. It's been almost 3 weeks since I found out DD3 is on her way and I'm starting to fully accept it; I didn't expect it to be this hard but I don't think I realized how fully entrenched my expectations of a son were. When it's something you've always wanted you almost come to believe the want is there precisely to be filled. Like you get hungry to remind you to eat. It's like I thought the longing was there to encourage me to TTC #3, because it would be this boy I always wanted, LOL. So it's been tough to realize that the dream wasn't a premonition it was just a dream, but I'm getting there. I can't say I feel thrilled at the prospect of another girl but I'm no longer devastated so we're making big progress :bigsmile: Feeling her kick in my belly doesn't make me upset anymore. There are even days, like today, where I'm not sure it even matters at all... why was it ever such a big deal anyway? It never has been to my DH and I wish it never had been to me.
Princess I'm glad the nausea is leaving! FX it stays away!
Zan Happy Bday to your sweet boy! Any big plans? Does he "get" it's his day?
begonia - I'm glad you're feeling better. GD sucks. I cried for days when I found out ds3 was a boy after swaying...but then I slowly picked myself up and started to get excited about the little guy's arrival. Now he's the apple of my eye and I can't imagine life without him. I hope my recovery is as swift if I find out I'm having ds4....
Z - maybe that's why I don't have m/s yet - I snack CONSTANTLY :bigsmile:. It's like I want to make up for 5 months of not eating all in a few weeks. I've already gained nearly 10 lbs :oops:.
Mocha do you think it will be any easier this time if you do end up with DS4? I think swaying might not have been so good for me in terms of the GD. I mean, I know beyond a doubt my sway changed me ... I got all kinds of physical symptoms like hair growth, acne in new places, cycle changed, etc. Clearly an X still won. But seeing all those changes and knowing how very different my lifestyle, diet, etc were this time, it gave me soooo much hope. And then that hope was just crushed, KWIM? Whereas I feel like if I didn't sway I wouldn't have gotten my hopes up so high. Part of my sway too was mentally imagining that I would have a son, I really felt like believing it would work was important, so I did. I believed it and spent months picturing my son. And that definitely was hard to get over.
But like I said, totally getting there, not there yet but definitely think I will be 100% thrilled to welcome DD3 when the time comes. I just don't know that I could do that to myself again with the swaying, I feel like IF we had #4 I'd just roll the dice and take what I get. What made you decide to sway again? Did you change much from last time?
FWIW I always gained 10-12 in the 1st tri with both my girls :) FX this is your little DD!!! I so badly want everyone to get their DG, that's part of the reason I keep hanging around ... it's so wonderful when it DOES happen for someone that I want to be here for the celebrating.
I have no idea how I'd handle the news of another boy this time. Last time I always had it in the back of my head that I could try again for a girl. In fact, my sway was veeeerrry loose because I just wanted to get pregnant quickly.
This time I know it is my last chance. There's no way we want 5 kids, no matter what. I didn't want to have any regrets, so I swayed hard. I feel like I sacrificed so much to sway, starving myself for nearly 5 months and losing 20 lbs, and I worry that will make me more upset because I did all that for nothing.
Honestly, I don't have very high hopes. So far my pregnancy feels the same as my other two, and I'm pregnant the exact same time of year as the others as well, which I feel does not help my chances at all. Although I did a lot to sway, I had dropped lots of parts of it in my successful month, so I'm worried I didn't do enough. I suspect dh has very high testosterone levels (big sex drive, heavily into sports, very short temper, etc.) and I didn't do anything to reduce his testosterone (he ate his normal diet and didn't take any supps), so I just have a feeling I don't have a chance for anything but a boy.
This was me ... what I bolded ... except obvi opposite since I did the boy sway. I went all out on that thing. And I do think it made it harder for me to accept. But I guess the flip side is we did all we could, so we have to be OK with the result knowing we gave it our best shot. I don't know ...I do think swaying is worth the effort, but I also think so much of it does come back down to which ONE of those millions of sperm happened to get in that egg ... I mean, for all I know there could have been 10 Y's there banging on the door and an X just snuck in, KWIM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mochagirl
Re: pregnancies I had 2 VERY different ones and honestly, this one has been pretty different too ... and they are all girls, LOL! So it could be, even with a girl in there this time, your body just has a pregnancy rhythm. My girls are all at different times of year, too; I think seasons have a small impact if any. I know LOADS of friends IRL with boys in Feb/Mar but maybe they are so boy friendly they didn't need the seasons, and I did. Who knows. Testosterone levels have some research behind them don't they; I can understand why that would worry you, but really, I think YOU bring a lot to the sway with all you did. I think you had a great sway ... I mean, you got down to a 00 girl! That is teensy! If that doesn't make you a girl friendly womb I don't know what else you could have done. Have you decided yet if you'll find out?
DM so sorry to hear about your grandma and also your little puppy. My sweet german shepherd got this virus and also had to stay on IV for several days, but he got better and lived to an old age so I'm sending you positive vibes! I felt so guilty cause I was in college and decided I would save money and vaccinate him myself buying it at our local feed store. well, I think I didn't do a great job or maybe didn't store the vaccine correctly. either way, the guilt was horrible but luckily he survived.
Mocha and Begonia--I feel your pain. Swaying makes it harder to accept! I'm so stuck about finding out the sex now. My gut tells me it's a girl because I want it to be a girl. I never cared before cause I always knew we would have 4 kids and I mainly wanted boys, but this is the absolute last for us. I can't sanely handle 5 kids and be 100% present in their lives the way I am now. So this is it! Should I find out? I'm about 19 weeks and my doc keeps telling me I gotta schedule the U/S. To top it off, we want the kids in the room to see the baby and I can't decide. In my mind, I thought if they say boy, DH and I will keep it a secret and tell people we didn't find out. I really don't wanna hear any remarks from family and friends. But now that we will have the boys come I'm not sure what to do. Aghhh I have been losing sleep over this. MIL calls all the time asking when will we know. I keep saying I'm not sure I'm gonna find out and I can just hear the pause and disappointment.--Sorry to vent!
I have a question....When did you feel baby movements? I still feel nothing! my OB isn't concerned but I clearly remember flutter movements by 16 weeks. I lay on my belly and I still don't feel anything. Sometimes I think it's my imagination and I feel things but I mainly think it's just gas LOL! Oh well, I heard the heartbeat last week so I'm just gonna stop the paranoia.
begonia - I'm fairly sure I'm going to find out the gender. I didn't find out with my twins and was convinced they were girls, and found myself having a twinge of disappointment when the doctor announce 'It's a boy!'. I want to be well over GD by the time #4 arrives.
Glittergirl - honestly, I'm not sure I remember when I first felt movement in my pregnancies. I think with my twins I was convinced I felt it around 16 weeks, but an OB friend of mine told me that was impossible (but he is a man - how can he know what I feel?). I think maybe I felt movement a lot later with ds3, and I seem to remember my midwife suggesting that because my uterus was so stretched out with my twins it was normal to not feel movement until later. I just don't know. I think if your OB isn't concerned you shouldn't spend any precious energy worrying about it (I know, easier said than done).
GG, I'm not feeling much movement still. I find if I lay down in the morning and put my hand on my stomach that I feel more this way, I think its because my uterus must be so worn out its gone numb lol, so I feel more on the outside with my hand!
Glitter, I think you should find out. I really do, those nub shots are pretty convincing. You could still keep it a family secret if you don't want to deal with everyone making a big deal out of it being a girl. It's a tough call. I think you're in a hard spot because with nubs like that and all those guesses, it would be hard for you NOT to be thinking this is a girl, and if (and I really can't imagine this) IF it is in fact a boy, it'll probably be that much harder to digest. Does DH know about all the nub guessing and have an idea that this could be your DD? I think I remember you saying he more than you really was hoping for a daughter.
Mocha, I think when you have your heart set it is a little easier to just find out. Initially I thought the opposite but the fact is, since I wanted a son so badly, it was all I could think about and was making me miserable even before I did know. I wouldn't have wanted to spend the rest of the pg that way. I was going to be sad not knowing, sad knowing girl, or happy knowing boy, and I took the chance because odds were I was going to be sad anyway so I might as well start working through it.
Re: movement I do feel this one, mostly at night when I finally stop for the day. She's a wiggly little one for sure though, my 12 and 17 week scans she wouldn't quit moving for a second, LOL. If you heard the heartbeat I'd say you're in good shape though! And the whole uterus becoming stretched/less sensitive makes sense too.
You all are talking movement...and I am a little freaked out by the fact GG is not feeling any movement. The reason for this is I didn't feel a lot of movement with Evan. I always felt movement at 16 weeks on with my other pg's....I chalked it up to my placenta being in front...but at the u/s at 23 weeks is when we found out that Evan was very sick with hydrops and that is why he was not moving much. GG get the u/s asap!! Sorry don't mean to freak anyone out but I would be alarmed. And it maybe nothing but I would just make sure!
Well said, begonia - my sentiments exactly! If I don't find out I'll spend the whole pregnancy torturing myself over whether or not my sway worked, and yes, I think I may start to feel miserable as I convince myself there's no way I'm having a girl. Better to get the news over with - quick like a bandaid - so I can either start to heal and work on getting excited for boy#4 or rejoice over a successful sway.Quote:
Originally Posted by begonia
I can't remember how early I felt movement with the first two boys, but with DS3 I felt it fairly early on but then nothing for weeks and I was worried about it so went to the midwife but all was ok - I guess he was just still so tiny at that point and he moved position or something. I wasn't feeling regularly movements until around 18 weeks.
Thanks for wishing DS3 a happy birthday. We had a lovely day at a farm park with my parents and my sister and her two children and he's busy playing with all his toys now. I bought him a lovely wooden play kitchen and while putting it together last night DH said 'you really want a girl don't you' and I was so annoyed with him - how is a kitchen a girl's toy? I so want my boys to grow up being willing and able to cook and clean (my DH can't cook!). Needless to say all 3 boys are enjoying their kitchen!!
My ds3 got a wooden play kitchen for Christmas last year, and all my boys love it too!
ITA kitchens are great toys for boys! My DD1 is actually only friends with boys, LOL, and every one of them wants to play with the kitchen.
Mocha here's hoping you get to rejoice in a successful sway! I had a tough time with the GD again today ... DH and DD1 came home from a camping weekend, they had a great time, but there were lots more dad's out with their sons. And he was like "it sure would be fun to take a boy out too one day." And I was just crushed. Crushed. I prayed for like the 3723rd time that MAYBE my us was wrong, and MAYBE we can still have a boy :( I know he'll be happy with a 3rd DD but for the love of God why couldn't we make just ONE son?!? 3 boys would have been my dream :( I need to let go of it, and I think once she's here and we both see what we've got to work with we're going to make it great. But man. It is hard to let go of these lifelong dreams.
FWIW I will say re: girls toys for boys and vice versa, people are MUCH more accepting of girls playing with boys things, aren't they? And for that matter, girls wearing "boy" clothes. DD1 is always in superhero shirts or camo or something that is decidedly boy, and we for the most part don't get comments ... I can't imagine how it would go though if a little boy had on a pink shirt with a princess twirling on it. People would probably be critical.
I'm sorry you had a down day, begonia - I know it's hard. When I had my several months of thinking we weren't going to try again and I was definitely never going to have a girl (dh didn't want anymore kids), I went between feeling fine for long periods of time, to having someone trigger a big crying spell. For example, once when all my family had converged at my Mom's house for the weekend, I was sitting in our bedroom trying to get ds3 to sleep, and I overheard sil talking to her daughter while doing her hair and saying "All I ever wanted was a daughter who I could talk to and do girl things with, and I'm soooo lucky I have you." I lost it, and was miserable for days. On that same trip I found an old children's book in my childhood bedroom called 'When I have a girl," about a little girl dreaming of when she could be a mother to another little girl. That was a tough week. Other times, I looked at my gorgeous family and felt fulfilled. I think if dh hadn't changed his mind and said we could try again, the hard times would have become fewer and fewer and the happy times more and more common. Sometimes I worry I'm unnecessarily opening up new wounds by doing this again since I was on the verge of starting to feel better.
Well...it looks like m/s finally found me. I'm 7 weeks to the day today, and I felt sick from the moment I woke up. Unfortunately I forgot my prenatal yesterday so I took it first thing this morning instead, which I think made things worse (as did my lack of sleep last night - I only got a few solid hours). This morning I couldn't even fathom drinking my beloved coffee, and finally, after feeling on the brink of throwing up for 2 hours, I just gave in and threw up.