Jam-packed January 2WW Thread

BD daily would sway girl from what I have come to understand, but that is if you BD every day from AF to O. I don't think you should continue if you are swaying girl. The key is to get one attempt in and just go with the first +OPK :)

This is my updated chart for today:

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My temps for the last 3 days go like this:

12/29
97.36 - 5:00AM Oral
97.63 - 5:00AM Vag

12/30
97.62 - 5:00AM Oral
97.83 - 5:00AM Vag

12/31
97.93 -5:00AM Oral
98.16 -5:00AM Vag

I've started taking Vaginal temps in addition to my oral temps so I don't have doubt about the pattern. SO yeah, it looks like O took place on CD14 or 16. Either way, progesterone is clearly taking over. yay! The only issue I'm having at this point is EWCM. Its not even like my usual EWCM, its super slippery and stringy. Gross I know. Sometimes it's white, but mostly clear and it has been going on for the last 2 days.

I've totally been symptom spotting and my notes are filled. What else do you do in the 2ww right? haha

You should ask in the general swaying forum so Atomic can help. :)

Robin- I would skip tonight and BD the following night. That would be SMEP- sperm meets egg plan. While this may be a tad blue friendly, SMEP is great for those that have been TTCing for a LONG time.

Just because your opks are getting darker now, doesn't mean the others were negative. You want to BD at the FIRST positive, not necessarily the darkest. Also, it's not uncommon to have 2-3 days of positive opks. You want to have BDing in at the first positive opk.

FX and GL to you!!!



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Robin- I would skip tonight and BD the following night. That would be SMEP- sperm meets egg plan. While this may be a tad blue friendly, SMEP is great for those that have been TTCing for a LONG time.

Just because your opks are getting darker now, doesn't mean the others were negative. You want to BD at the FIRST positive, not necessarily the darkest. Also, it's not uncommon to have 2-3 days of positive opks. You want to have BDing in at the first positive opk.

FX and GL to you!!!



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Great thank you! I'll skip tonight. 😊

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Oh my... December was chaos here. Someone was sick all month. Did I miss any BFPs?

I didn't even get an attempt in this cycle at all- DH got hurt and couldn't manage it. Waiting for AF later this week.

FX that this month things get back to normal for you Fox!! And your family stays healthy!

December, the end anyway, was crazy for us too. We hosted our first Christmas dinner for my DH's family (27 people came!), and my DH's grandma died. We had family gatherings every day for 9 days and counting!!



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I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but I'm wondering if you ladies think I've ovulated yet based on temps.
Positive opk was on Day 15 & 16
Those two high temps were from a fever so it's throwing everything off.
FF isn't putting cross hairs and I'm wondering if I should have another attempt tonight or not bother. Lolhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2017...bbe475e408.jpg

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Robin, since you are having a rough time pinpointing O and the fever throwing it off, have you considered just doing every 4 days instead? It is so much less stressful then trying to guess O day.

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Robin, since you are having a rough time pinpointing O and the fever throwing it off, have you considered just doing every 4 days instead? It is so much less stressful then trying to guess O day.

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Ya. I am thinking of doing e3d now... so today would be the day. To be honest I am kind of over dtd. It's getting annoying lol
You can't even enjoy yourself at the end if you know what I mean! 😉

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I totally feel ya on the dtd stuff. I also suggest e4d, As for the chart, if the OPK's were correct, you probably already ovulated by now, but you won't be able to tell from the chart until a few more days. Sorry I'm not much help! :/

Hi ladies. CD 6 for me. Nothing much to report except I've fixed my low progesterone. Pre O temps are around 98 and post well above 98, so I'm happy. Now if I could fix my low libido I'd be good. I do not want to DTD at any other time than close to O. DH has caught wind of it and is not a happy camper. Any suggestions... [emoji20] I don't know what has happened to my sex drive??? Please. Come. Back.

Libido is a tough one because it is related to two major things. Your psychology and your hormone balance. Is it possible that you guys are stuck in a rut? How is your relationship with DH, any unsolved issues between you two? How is your self image? Those things matter alot in the sex department.

Then there's hormones. Do you chart? How long is your LP? Are you very dry most of your cycle?


As for me, meh. I got a BFN this morning and I have been feeling emotional and angry since last night because on the day of O, we waited until late evening to BD. I KNEW I should have insisted on AM, but the OPK wasn't so clear. I had a strong gut feeling that this was it, but I ignored it and THAT is what is getting to me. Now I'm afraid my BD pattern isn't boy friendly u_u even though we did EOD and 5 attempts in my fertile window (2 before, 1 on O day and 2 after). I am having difficulty getting past this anger and a stirred the pot with DH last night since he wasn't being cooperative that day.

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Hi ladies. CD 6 for me. Nothing much to report except I've fixed my low progesterone. Pre O temps are around 98 and post well above 98, so I'm happy. Now if I could fix my low libido I'd be good. I do not want to DTD at any other time than close to O. DH has caught wind of it and is not a happy camper. Any suggestions... [emoji20] I don't know what has happened to my sex drive??? Please. Come. Back.

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I know what you mean! It's been rough for me these past few months.


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So today's temp was up higher but FF still hadn't put cross hairs. I played around with it and if I have another day of high temp (which I expect to) FF thinks I "O" yesterday on CD18. The last time we DTD was CD15.

If we DTD again tonight is it to late to catch the egg?!!!!
This could be what happened last cycle bc we stopped DTD after I thought I Ovulated

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Libido is a tough one because it is related to two major things. Your psychology and your hormone balance. Is it possible that you guys are stuck in a rut? How is your relationship with DH, any unsolved issues between you two? How is your self image? Those things matter alot in the sex department.

Then there's hormones. Do you chart? How long is your LP? Are you very dry most of your cycle?


As for me, meh. I got a BFN this morning and I have been feeling emotional and angry since last night because on the day of O, we waited until late evening to BD. I KNEW I should have insisted on AM, but the OPK wasn't so clear. I had a strong gut feeling that this was it, but I ignored it and THAT is what is getting to me. Now I'm afraid my BD pattern isn't boy friendly u_u even though we did EOD and 5 attempts in my fertile window (2 before, 1 on O day and 2 after). I am having difficulty getting past this anger and a stirred the pot with DH last night since he wasn't being cooperative that day.

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What dpo are you? It's prob that it's just too early yet for a line. Don't get disappointed yet! I hope it's your month!!

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Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.

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Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.

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Ya I'm deff going to. It's e4d today if we BD but I'm hoping it will be enough! Wishing I BD last night now. As the months go on.. it becomes more important to us to just have a baby. Not certain gender. Our DD needs a playmate. She's turning 2 in less than 2 months. I wanted to bring another child into the world before she's 3!

MeanVeggieGal-- I know what you mean about not feeling as attractive as you'd like. I too have extra weight holding on. The high carb diet did the opposite for me and I've gained a few. I switched to pcos diet now.. but I still find I'm craving carbs unlike before this diet!
Ugh!!


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Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.

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Oh I completely understand, and there isn't much I can say to convince you that those 10Lbs don't matter. I think you should focus on resolving issues, that is the bigger problem. Men are really not picky about our bodies the way we are, that's for sure. Maybe once you guys clear things up, you can have a heart to heart and he can give you some reassurance.

Your cycle sounds pretty healthy. Estrogen is what you are looking for when it comes to lubrication and arousal, but sometimes when other hormones are off, it affects libido anyway. How long has it been since you sorted the progesterone out?

About the bfn, yeah, I know lol. I tested 8dpo also :giggle: I have a pretty thorough symptom list and I really don't need a test to tell me what is, however, I still want a confirmation to make it official and congratulate DH. Whether it sticks or not, I'm fairly certain the egg was caught lol. I know he's been a good sport and did very well considering my demands. I'm so ungrateful sometimes u_u I have a terrible time accepting when people don't follow schedules and go through fully with commitments made. I think that's the bigger problem here.

Robin - have you tried removing the wonky temps? If you already O'd, then yes it would be too late to catch the egg, BUT, if you haven't (and you have to assume you haven't until you know for sure), you still need to go every 3-4 days.

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Oh I completely understand, and there isn't much I can say to convince you that those 10Lbs don't matter. I think you should focus on resolving issues, that is the bigger problem. Men are really not picky about our bodies the way we are, that's for sure. Maybe once you guys clear things up, you can have a heart to heart and he can give you some reassurance.

Your cycle sounds pretty healthy. Estrogen is what you are looking for when it comes to lubrication and arousal, but sometimes when other hormones are off, it affects libido anyway. How long has it been since you sorted the progesterone out?

About the bfn, yeah, I know lol. I tested 8dpo also :giggle: I have a pretty thorough symptom list and I really don't need a test to tell me what is, however, I still want a confirmation to make it official and congratulate DH. I know he's been a good sport. I'm so ungrateful sometimes u_u I have a terrible time accepting when people don't follow schedules and go through fully with commitments made. I think that's the bigger problem here.

Robin - have you tried removing the wonky temps? If you already O'd, then yes it would be too late to catch the egg, BUT, if you haven't (and you have to assume you haven't until you know for sure), you still need to go every 3-4 days.

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Yes it's ONLY then FF applies the ovulation date at all. I put my symptoms those days to "fever" and it calculates.
Frustrating


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Well, eventually a pattern will form on your chart anyway, but its a very long process. This has been the case for me of all months lol! Now, if I remove or keep the wonky temps, O day remains the same. Keep BD on schedule.

CD21 and still haven't ovulated; it has never been this late before. I guess the one month of birth control pills really messed me up. So tired of checking OPK's at this point :) Just going to continue to BD EOD until I see a temp shift.

Well it looks like I am at CD1 (I think) of my first ppaf! Finally. Crazy that is came 4 days after a +OPK. Who knows if my cycle will regulate now or now, but I am hoping. I started my exercising again today (even though I am super sick) and will be cracking down on the diet again. Happy New Year to everyone!

Cosmosis - I've been tweaking herbs for about 3 months and finally figured it out. This is my first month with consistent high pre O temps. Last month I had good post O temps. So I'm guessing this should be the first cycle it's all working together.

My cycles are regular with very minimal concern, but recently I started experiencing fatigue, thyroid issues (lots of hair fall) and low temps both pre and post O.

Good luck on your soon to be BFP!

Robin - have you noticed any positives since the PCOS diet? Carb cravings suck! Hopefully the cravings will settle down soon.

Tfhan- I hope you O soon.

Good luck SS

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Cosmosis - I've been tweaking herbs for about 3 months and finally figured it out. This is my first month with consistent high pre O temps. Last month I had good post O temps. So I'm guessing this should be the first cycle it's all working together.

My cycles are regular with very minimal concern, but recently I started experiencing fatigue, thyroid issues (lots of hair fall) and low temps both pre and post O.

Good luck on your soon to be BFP!

Robin - have you noticed any positives since the PCOS diet? Carb cravings suck! Hopefully the cravings will settle down soon.

Tfhan- I hope you O soon.

Good luck SS

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What herbs are you taking? Just curious!

I had the same things happen to me, low pre-O and low post-O temps, short LP, extreme fatigue, and hair loss by the handfuls! As it turned out, I had extremely low Vitamin D levels. Since I've started supplementing, my symptoms have improved. Hopefully, that means a BFP soon! It has been reported that deficient Vitamin D levels artificially decrease egg quality and cause reversible infertility in women.



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What herbs are you taking? Just curious!

I had the same things happen to me, low pre-O and low post-O temps, short LP, extreme fatigue, and hair loss by the handfuls! As it turned out, I had extremely low Vitamin D levels. Since I've started supplementing, my symptoms have improved. Hopefully, that means a BFP soon! It has been reported that deficient Vitamin D levels artificially decrease egg quality and cause reversible infertility in women.



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I encapsulate my own herbal/food formula. I use a combination of beef liver (clean, grind, dehydrate at 98 degrees, then finally powder) beef thyroid, organic vitex berries, Siberian gingseng, and bladderwrack. I use 00 capsules. I take 2 first thing in the AM and 2 before bedtime. I was having the exact same symptoms prior to my formula. Now my pre O temps are usually between 97.8 and 98, post O above 98.

My LP has never changed (14 days) and I still had 28 day cycles, but was spotting before and after AF, losing loads of hair, adrenal fatigue, low libido (still working on this) and weight gain.

Now, just working on the low libido and getting in the gym to get rid of the pesky 10 lbs 😤.

I may look into the Vitamin D. Thanks.

Well I tested today and I think I'm seeing a faint, faint line. I could be seeing things....I'll have to see what happens tomorrow. If this is it I really think having an attempt before +opk has been important for me. Here's the pic if anyone wants to go cross-eyed with me.

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Inforthree- I *think* I see a faint line too!!! I can't wait to see your other tests!!

I'm Xing everything for you!!



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I am not sure but I may see a faint line, hoping you get a darker line in the next few days. Fingers crossed for you inforthree

Thanks, ladies...I'll see what tomorrow brings. I'm hopeful.

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When are you guys testing? I'm using the cheaper tests that come 50 per kit off amazon...period due in 5 days. So far negative...


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Hope your test gets darker!! Very exciting!

Well FF pinpointed ovulation on cycle day 18 for me. We DTD on Friday and I ovulated on Monday.
Hoping I didn't miss the egg. Seems too far off ... I think I'm out this cycle. Not sure what I'm going to do next cycle bc I already have an October baby and with his birthday and Halloween I already find it very busy. I don't know if I want to add to that! However our Oct child has the BEST personality! He is just the sweetest, snuggliest boy around. So easy going and we love that. I'd be over joyed to have another one like him.


Wantanother---The earliest I've ever gotten a positive on an amazon cheapie has been like dpo 13. That's when I had my chemical. With the first responses I got positives at 10 dpo

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I tested today aaaaaand BFN.

*sigh* I was extra bummed today because I got some false hope. I just started using IC's and didn't realize there will be a light dye line after the "max" line and it looked like a faint line to me, so I got excited and then super let down when I realized what was going on lol. u_u

I'm SO irritable today. At least temps are staying up. 4 days before AF is supposed to be here.

It's still early cosmosis, it's not over til AF arrives!

My line was still super faint this morning but I think something is there. I'm probably 10 dpo today.

Robin - I have a Nov 1 baby! Missed Halloween by 22 minutes. But actually preferred Nov 1 so I kept asking if it was midnight yet. 😜
For me I really think DTD earlier than +opk was important. I DTD Friday, ovulated probably Monday and DTD Monday night. I suppose it could be the second BD, but I just feel like it's the first... So hopefully that timing works for you too!

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AF due in 5 days, all negative tests so far for me. With my cheapos that is. Not terribly disappointed because I really want to get pregnant on the next cycle for due date reasons.


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Sooooo, I found something to play with! :oops:

I was cleaning up all my BFN's and old OPK's to take a break this weekend looool. As I was picking up this morning's dollar store cheapie, I saw a squinter!

I understand it was past its limit, but this brand of tests doesn't give evaps and my OPK didn't get dark enough to be considered a positive until hours later (If you haven't seen my thread, you should lol)

To be fair, I noticed the ink line forming this morning, but after 20 minutes it looked like a blob and not a line so I just left it. I thought maybe I added too much urine and it was messing up.

The dollar store cheapies are 25miu and I took it for comparison purposes, but didn't expect anything to show up.

I got some IC's in the mail a couple of days ago and I've been testing with those since Wednesday, all stark white. I've had this hunch that they are duds OR not as sensitive as claimed to be (10miu).

Anyway I'm providing and old (negative) OPK, a BFN from 8dpo and today's test with FMU. I also inverted them. They are darker in person. I tried scanning and taking photos with different cameras, but is the best that can be done. Humor me, and tell me what you think :D

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I asked my DD to have a look since she has no earthly idea what all this stuff is, and she told me which ones she saw 2 lines on :D

The problem with my testing (including OPK's) might be that I drink alot of liquid all day long. Not excessive, but in total I drink about 3-4L of liquid per day and most of it is water, some is tea. I can't drink less than that without feeling very dehydrated and uncomfortable.

Anyway, I stocked up on some more dollar tree tests and got a CBD to check progression after a BFP is confirmed. For now, I'll keep entertained with this one lol.

I see it on the 13 dpo! Looks like my line does! Yay! Hope ours both keep getting darker!

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I can see a faint line on the 13dpo one too

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Sooooo, I found something to play with! :oops:

I was cleaning up all my BFN's and old OPK's to take a break this weekend looool. As I was picking up this morning's dollar store cheapie, I saw a squinter!

I understand it was past its limit, but this brand of tests doesn't give evaps and my OPK didn't get dark enough to be considered a positive until hours later (If you haven't seen my thread, you should lol)

To be fair, I noticed the ink line forming this morning, but after 20 minutes it looked like a blob and not a line so I just left it. I thought maybe I added too much urine and it was messing up.

The dollar store cheapies are 25miu and I took it for comparison purposes, but didn't expect anything to show up.

I got some IC's in the mail a couple of days ago and I've been testing with those since Wednesday, all stark white. I've had this hunch that they are duds OR not as sensitive as claimed to be (10miu).

Anyway I'm providing and old (negative) OPK, a BFN from 8dpo and today's test with FMU. I also inverted them. They are darker in person. I tried scanning and taking photos with different cameras, but is the best that can be done. Humor me, and tell me what you think :D

http://i64.tinypic.com/11kyuj8.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/10zz1n7.jpg

I asked my DD to have a look since she has no earthly idea what all this stuff is, and she told me which ones she saw 2 lines on :D

The problem with my testing (including OPK's) might be that I drink alot of liquid all day long. Not excessive, but in total I drink about 3-4L of liquid per day and most of it is water, some is tea. I can't drink less than that without feeling very dehydrated and uncomfortable.

Anyway, I stocked up on some more dollar tree tests and got a CBD to check progression after a BFP is confirmed. For now, I'll keep entertained with this one lol.

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Yay!! I see it too!
I'm wanting to test now to! AF is due for me in a week.
What symptoms have you had?!

Symptoms I've been having this cycle include: excessive bloating, gas, stuffy nose, fatigue, sore breasts and I get these flush faces.. like where my face feels like it's on fire. So odd.. but I can only remember this during early pregnancy..
However I do not feel crampy yet so I'm not getting my hopes up at all. I have a lower right pelvic dull pain that I think is a cyst though. Very frustrating bc for months I thought it was pregnancy pains only to find out I have a cyst on my right ovary!

I might start testing Monday bc I am impatient!

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