Jaw Dropping June 2ww - part 2!

Mummy2boys it's so good to hear from you!!!

And yes definitely get another attempt in while dh is 'cooperating' as such as you may never get another chance and I would have very little confidence in a bd that pretty much ended in j &d. I don't feel you have the luxury of using 'one attempt' as a sway tactic so better to get a proper attempt in, especially at pos opk (omg how amazing is the timing of it 😀😀🎉🎉👌) What if he brings up permanent birth control next week? You'll have lost any chance so go go go for it tonight I say!!!!!!

For some reason I've not got any notifications so will go back thru now :)

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Max agree that cd20 could 'possibly' be a second attempt but the odds would be pretty low in my mind :) Did you take both yesterdays (sorry can't remember) and todays temps earlier or later than usual? Have you kept doing opks? Just curious if they are fading out normally :)

LMSM woohoo! Up in the 37's already 😮😀

Nacire cant wait to see that temp spike way back up again! Please please please be tomorrow mornings temp that it does 😀 post your opk after you've done it and fx it's fading out!


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Thanks pbn, can always count on you for fab advice!! The deed is done and he 'cooperated ' [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Got no more opks left so hopefully temp will rise soon so I know I've o'd. Had loads of twinges so must be close.
How is everyone else? Still not had chance to read through yet, need a catch up!


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Hello everyone! I just got back home after being out of state since Wednesday night. Sorry I didn't have a lot of time to check in while we were gone. Did I miss anything exciting?? I read through this new thread, but with the amount of chatting, I don't think I'll get a chance to read all the pages I missed on part 1. My girls are happy to be home and all about mama time! :) I'm expecting O in the next few days, but kinda hoping it's a little delayed so I can make up for a few "minimal effort" days!

:fx: for you, Max! Would be so exciting to give dh such a wonderful birthday gift! :)

Mummy2boys- yay! Sounds promising!

AF arrived last night! I'm out of limbo land now and can start clomid tomorrow... that's the only part I'm not happy about as I don't like how I feel taking it.


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Iwant4kids do you take clomid 2-6 or 3-7? Just checking as if af only arrived last night then today would be cd1? Hope it doesn't knock you around too much this time :( will be great for your sway :) What are you doing attempt wise this cycle 😀

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Thanks Iwant4. Glad you are out of limbo now. How does clomid make you feel? I don't know very much about it, what does it actually do?


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Morning!

Mommy2boys – good to read you – glad you got a nice little holiday – how was your son’s Bday? How old is he?
FX that attempt will do the trick – or as our guru says if you can another BD in, go for it!

PBN – as much as I want to be hopeful, not getting my hopes up too much, last cycle I was in the 37’s ish all cycle post O until CD1 – so will be very cautious – though would looooove a BFP this cycle, it’s hubby’s Bday on Thursday (and I know that is your appointment day too! Counting down with ya) – though that would be too early to test then, I would love to be able to give him a slightly delayed Bday pressie :D
We probably won’t celebrate it as such until Friday anyways due to work – the girls and I will make him a cake on Friday that we can have together that night – my eldest has mandated it has to be a Batman cake – so might transform it into a “Rad Dad” cake instead :P

LMSM love the cake idea!!!! That's awesome that you'll make a cake together with your girls ❤ what a lucky man your dh is! So are you counting yourself as 2 or 3dpo? We may be able to tweak your chart to shift the crosshairs if you like?

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Not guaranteeing the result of said cake so not sure if he’s lucky haha – I actually want to trial making a mirror glaze (since DD1 wants a frozen cake for her Bday, I thought I would make a blue-purple-ish mirror glaze for hers) – so it will likely look...interesting lol
As for the DPOs – I am pretty sure O day was Friday at some point – so could be 3dpo? But who knows eh? Just when I think I know my body super well, it does things that I am unsure of how to read lol
Would only be 7dpo on Friday then – so may test on Sunday? Will likely depend on symptoms or lack thereof too – with both my girls I felt something was different from around 6 dpo – as it is now, feels like my body is doing something, it feels like AF is coming – but then, could be anything and don’t want to read into it, as it is way too early to even have symptoms lol

I take clomid CD2-6 but going to take it 3-7 due to the time it came. Checked with Atomic too.
It makes me feel depressed and moody and just not myself... only 5 days though, so it's okay.




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No worries Iwant4kids! I just seen you've marked you chart as cd1 on Sunday. Usually cd1 is first day of full flow if it arrives before lunchtime'ish but if it arrives afternoon to night my understanding was to make the following day cd1. Not that it matters as you're holding off until cd3 which will technically be cd2 when you start taking lol just thought I'd mention in case you want your chart to line up with clomid days etc accurately without doing a minus one day thing in your head when you look at it :) If af arrived afternoon or night for me I'd mark it as spotting so 'I' knew that's when af started late but it kept my chart days correct as such. Gee I hope that all made sense, feel like I've waffled on and not really explained what I mean 😂

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Pbn3
This is my typical day (PCOS diet)


Morning - no breakfast

Morning tea (11:00) - 1/4 cucumber, 1/4 red capsicum and carrot sticks. Sometimes fruit instead of one of the veg.
And a cup of coconut water with a few berries on top

Lunch (1:30):
Cup brown rice, veg on top, bit of satay sauce and 3 veg balls made from zucchini
Or
Brown wrap with cheese

After work if I need something I'll have an apple

Dinner: vegetarian stir fry with noodles or rice
Or
Sometimes wholemeal pasta and veg and sauce
And always a coconut water
Sometimes followed by a small bag of popcorn

Do you think this is too much? Not enough?

I also have fiber after lunch and dinner.

Plus I'll get into running for 20 mins each morning again


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IWant - That is definitely low cal and sounds very girl friendly [emoji175]

Pbn3 - I started getting ovulation pains last night and earlier this morning. I may sound cray but it definitely felt like something was happening in there. Maybe because I'm totally aware so I'm looking for the signs?.. My CM turned creamy yesterday, and my OPK is faint but there..but negative for sure. I so hope I have that spike tomorrow :nails:

Iwant4kids fibre is best taken before your one or two highest fat meals. Yours sound very low fat though so not even sure you should be using fibre? Are you monitoring nutrition? How many cals, grans of fat and protein? Remember not to include green/leafy veggies in your intake. From what you've just listed it seems on the very low side of the le diet and I'm not sure its enough? How is your weight loss going? Not sure I'd introduce any exercise if your at a low weight. I'm not overly familiar with what is different in the pcos version of the le diet but I would strongly recommend you copying and pasting your typical day pcos le diet in a thread directed to atomic and mention everything that you've done to date. How long you've been on diet, your d&c last cycle etc, taking clomid this cycle and the idea of incuding exerise. All I would suggest (and only if it is in line with what atomic days) is to make sure you are hitting your fat and protein levels (the upper limits too) plus for some reason I think the pcos version has a higher limit for protein or perhaps even both?) Your d&c and most of all clomid will sway very strongly for you so I would take full advantage of that, especially this cycle, and aim for the upper limits of diet and probably do e4d with an extra attempt at pos opk?? Again though run everything past atomic while you have the time :)

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Pbn3 - I started getting ovulation pains last night and earlier this morning. I may sound cray but it definitely felt like something was happening in there. Maybe because I'm totally aware so I'm looking for the signs?.. My CM turned creamy yesterday, and my OPK is faint but there..but negative for sure. I so hope I have that spike tomorrow :nails:

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Eeeeeeekk!!!!! This sounds so very promising nacire!!! You may have even oed and caught the rise on its way up!! Cannot wait for next temp!

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Hi ladies! Ok phew what a day...finally have a few moments to sit and look through the thread.

LMSM, I love that cake idea! You guys are all so creative!

Nacire, fingers crossed for a temp increase!

Iwant4, doesn't coconut milk sway blue? Could be wrong, but just in case...

Pbn, I stopped opk because it's the weekend and we've been running around like crazy people... I took my temps yesterday and today 45 mins later than normal bc DH let me sleep in. I'm reeeeeaaaaallllly hoping I only got one attempt in! If I did, I feel great about this cycle because my diet was pretty good with lots of wine and coffee, which is my fav and makes me sooo happy! ;) the 2 attempts does make me a bit scared, although I know I wanted to get it in since I have been trying 1 attempt last cycles and not getting pregnant. I looked back and saw that my attempts with DD1 were 0-3, 0-2, and 0 day. I wasn't swaying at that time and my diet was certainly great at that point since we were trying for our first, so I'm really hoping I'm naturally pink friendly. 🤞



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Also, holding out on testing hasn't worked for me in the past, so I'm going crazy this cycle. Please tell me when to start testing and with what. I have opk, wondfo hcg, osom, and 2 FRER. [emoji322]


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Oh yay maxim that is awesome 😀😀😀😀😀 ok so those osom seemed really sensitive! I wouldn't bother testing with opks as they only act as a hpt if they are fully positive and by then you'd have had a pos hpt for days! Also some people (myself included) get a lh surge prior to af so it could be misleading if it starts darkening. So why not start osom and wondfo hpts on Friday?! You'll either be 7 or 8dpo. I'd keep using them until you see a line then use an frer! Maybe keep your fmu until after your tests dry in case we see something so you can dip another 😀😀😀 oh boy bring on the weekend!!!!

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Nacire what hpt tests will you be using and when?

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Nacire – woohoo, just a matter of waiting for O to be confirmed then :D

Iwant4 – like Max I thought coconut water was a blue friendly food moreso?

Max, FX for you that you can catch the hcg in there early hehe
Gosh, you’re making me want not to wait until Sunday to test – I’ve got like 20 + ICs, 7+ FRERs, 2 CB digi +2 BD digi with conception indicators (the digis are only coming out if a cleeear bfp shows up one of the others) – so yes, enough to go crazy – wich I had some of those OSOMs, they seem just so sensitive! :D
I was actually going to ask about the “protocol” for testing with opks – at what dpo to start, at what time of day etc etc – but you’ve rained on my parade now PBN lol (joking of course hon)

Hahaha sorry LMSM 😉!!! No reason for you not to start testing Saturday especially with that stash😀! You're either 2 or 3dpo too!! I'd use the IC's first couple days but as I said to Maxim, save your sample in case you need to dip another test!!!

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Max & LMSM-you both sound like me prepared with all of those hpts lol. I think you should both go all out with POAS this time [emoji322][emoji322]
Max-agree with pbn...start with OSOMs and wondfo's. My lines on those were much more noticeable than the frer. I wasn't sure if I could see anything on the frer or not. Excited for all of you to test!!!!
Nacire-Fx that you O'd and that you'll be testing soon too!!!

Max & Lmsm - I got very faint lines on wondfo htps at 9 dpo so y'all should definitely try it!! Now we have something to look forward to this weekend!

Woohoo, ok I'll start on Friday (8 dpi). [emoji322]


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Maximbella - Fingers crossed

Pbn3 - I have the Wondfo. Is there something much better to get instead?

LMSM - before swaying I don’t remember this part of it all so stressful in a way. You never sat around really waiting on O. You just sat around waiting on AF lol

Lolabelle - I sure hope I O’d. I think I did but only temping will tell..

Wondfo is great nacire and we also like frers as well!! Especially for early testing! Once we see a line clear blue digis are probably next best in line! Nothing beats seeing that 'Pregnant' word on a digi!!

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Nacire-wondfo's are perfect for detecting it early! Showed up at 9dpo evening for me as well! I will say that while you can see progression, it takes awhile for them to get dark like the lines on the frer. Once you see a line on the wondfo, try a frer for sure [emoji4] And just like pbn said-there's nothing like seeing that word "Pregnant." Oh so excited for testing time!!! I know we'll be celebrating lots of BFPs as the the jaw-dropping June success continues [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

You push to consumption ladies, you are totally poas enablers hahaha Max you caved :D though I don’t think you needed convincing lol
I guess I will have to consider testing early too then :P sooo nervous, I keep getting these stabbing pains in my lower abdomen esp on the right side - not sure what to make of it

Nacire – Wondfos are apparently really good! We don’t have them readily available here in Oz, but if you have some , then you are set :D (Having said that the OSOM Lola used were hyper sensitive and you should be able to get them on Amazon, and I know that Max ordered some ^^).

LMSM I think that stabbing pain you're referring to is a fertilised egg pushing its way down the tube towards the uterus 😀

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LMSM I think that stabbing pain you're referring to is a fertilised egg pushing its way down the tube towards the uterus ��

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FX so bad that it is what that pain is! :nails:

I actually vividly remember having a pinching (or stabbing) and pulsing type pain at 2dpo one pregnancy. I recall it so well as I visualed an everyday chicken egg as my egg pushing through a tight tube (think flesh coloured garden hose 😂) hence the pulsing 😂😂 in no way is that even close to what happens and certainly not what it looks like but my visualization was so hilarious I've never foegotten it 😂😂 Didn't feel it this or other pregnancies but I had deadset af pains at 6-8dpo this time (dont recall them other pregnancies) and they were exactly like my usual af pains I get at 10dpo. I actually thought af was going to come early.... but I got a bfp instead 😀

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Haha – I could totally do the same kind of visualization myself! :P
Now, don’t know whether it’s just because I want it to be because an eggie doing its magic or because it actually is – but man it’s distracting pains for sure!
I probably am overthinking every little detail so it makes it feel more prevalent than what it really is though lol

LMSM-I totally had cramps this time starting at 7dpo on and off along with a temp dip, then slow rise. Fx it's that magical egg for you!!! Love that you're ready to test early!!! Who's testing when?? It is Father's Day this Sunday right? Wouldn't that be an awesome day for a BFP!!!

I know that for DD2, I had an implantation dip quite late, around 8-9dpo I think with a bof around 11-12dpo – so hoping that the pain is not for nothing ! :D
As for testing, was initially considering Sunday but who knows what I will be willingly coerced into??! LOL
It’s DH’s Bday on Thursday but here in Oz Father’s day is the 1st Sunday of September so that wouldn’t work here – would work for Max though :D

LMSM-I easily forget that all of our holidays aren't the same. Will you be about 7dpo on Thurs? If you test on 8 or 9 dpo...you could always say you had one more gift!!
Max-I remember you saying DH's bday is coming up-is that this weekend? A BFP for his bday AND Father's Day!! That would be Ahhhh-mazing!!

Oh worry not Lola, I have already planned the whole “I have another pressie for you thing” – been thinking about the announcement for yonkies, and one of the “scenarios” I envisaged was if I got my bfp around hubby’s Bday – I actually have about 3 ways of announcing it and still don’t know which I would choose lol
Australia likes to do Public hols differently, so hard to keep up! heck, today is a PH in all other states but Qld – Labor day was May 1st here but they are having it today everywhere else in Oz lol
Could it be a sign with our DH’s Bdays plus Father’s day (it is father’s day in France this WE, which is our country of origin though ^^) around the corner? Let’s hope so! What prefect timing it would be especially for you Max :D

Kat - thanks, I hope so!


Nacire - fingers crossed!


Pbn3 - I had lost 5kg before my blighted ovum, but now it's back on. I should be able to get 3kg off before I ovulate. I've paid for a plan with Atomic, so I've messaged her to run it by her again. The PCOS diet has some compulsory items, including yoghurt and coconut water, plus more whole grains and brown rice instead of all white. I feel totally commited this time, like it's my last shot as I KNOW this will be the month.

Maxim - I think with two girls you're girl friendly anyway. So with what you're doing you'll be fine. Yay for testing Friday

LMSM - How annoying are all the different public holidays! Loved being home today! :)

AFM: Just figured out I'll be testing in the first week of July....another month down! Feeling a little crampy but good. I actually feel good when I have AF - motivated and lots of energy. 9 school days to go and then 3 weeks of holidays; maybe that has something to do with how I'm feeling!

Sounds great Iwant4kids! And yes! This will be your month! What's your bd plan?

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