I guess as a final follow up -- do I need to worry about his sperm count next month from this fever? If it's a roughly 72 day life cycle, is another month enough time to kick those numbers back up? We're doing EOD, occasional 3 day gap.
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I guess as a final follow up -- do I need to worry about his sperm count next month from this fever? If it's a roughly 72 day life cycle, is another month enough time to kick those numbers back up? We're doing EOD, occasional 3 day gap.
I am a bit confused about husbands having fevers! Mine had a fever this month 39C /102F for 3 days. I am swaying pink but I'm 41 so more worried about just not getting pregnant. I thought fevers affected sperm in the following 3 cycles, not the current cycle when the sperm is already made?
I found these when researching it:
The Sperm Cycle - I Got a Fever and the Only Prescription is?? - Texas Fertility Center
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14507826
https://community.babycenter.com/pos...ll_about_sperm
The consensus seems to be that fevers for sure affect sperm count, and even sperm health, but it varies and is not necessarily impacted in the present -- so now I'm even more conflicted, since the sperm issues might not be now but in the coming cycles (though not necessarily next month). I'm due to get my surge tomorrow or so based on OPKs, and I just had DH release outside of me yesterday since I wanted to play it safe since I thought we were skipping this month.
I know these's no crystal ball, but this really seems like a possible Catch 22. Waiting 3 months to TTC is out of the question.
I just don't have the data. I see below you've read all the same stuff I have and the simple fact is no one really knows, it may even be different due to the various effects of viruses, etc, and by individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
If you can't wait 3 months, you can't wait 3 months. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many couples with all/mostly boys whose husbands went 3 months ever without being sick.
You can't wait as I already mentioned because time is not our friend here. Panther has time to wait and she's swaying blue. I really urge you to stop worrying about this, because it is one of those pointless things that doesn't help anything and plagues pink swayers. The worrying feels like you're doing something to fix a problem that inherently is unfixable and you have to just step out in faith and TTC because in the end, worrying about whether you're going to conceive or not does nothing to make it happen and only harms your sway.Quote:
Originally Posted by hopetoswaypink
Good luck PT. Just keep doing your excercises and have hearty food! You will get pregnant and be over the moon..I know how hard this mentally can be. Dont think any month feels good as long as you feel good abour your effort! There are atleast four women I know who are expecting boys. Believe me they didnt put as much effort as we do. Most of them took their vitamins and didnt care about calories. Had their meat and vegetables, changed their diet and went for it.
We keep delaying it out of fear. Fear for not putting enough effort in a specific month or DH's state.
Thank you, I really appreciate this! It's something I've rationalized, too, especially knowing how extreme I was before my DD and how long I've been HE.Quote:
Originally Posted by meoab
Looks like we're out this month, too :(
I'm starting to get nervous. How was it so easy to get pregnant under terrible conditions (including with DD!) and now I'm better and nothing??
(((Huge Hugs))) I'm so sorry TP [emoji20]. I view improving fertility like turning an ocean liner- it takes some time. For whatever reason, the metabolic changes as of late we're harder on your body than the conditions that led to your DD. Just know it WILL happen for you! Don't give up and keep up the good work you've been doing! Take comfort in that you can still get a DS with it taking awhile to conceive- my DS3 took 8 long months of me improving my fertility. I do believe that acupuncture and Yoga helped me. Yoga more so for keeping me calm and maintaining a healthy perspective (I was beginning to self destruct).
Vent away- don't keep it in-we're here for you!
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Don't get nervous. Getting nervous isn't warranted. We know that you had the thyroid situation going on before and that is the number one mystery thing that prohibits conception. So while I know it's tough, in your mind, hit the "reset" button and treat this as Month One, a fresh start. You weren't really trying to conceive before, now you are. It's going to be ok, you WILL get pregnant, and it will happen sooner rather than later.
This ended up being for sure a chemical :( Two days of super faint tests this late in the game made me expect a loss. Heavy spotting now (incidentally after acupuncture today).
Do I need to be pursuing an RE? I just learned about balanced translocation -- it would explain DD's success. I know progesterone is such a mixed bag, but my LP keeps being around 11 days. Do I need to drop the 1-2 nursing sessions with my DD still?
You do not need to stop nursing, but be aware if you go to an RE they will tell you to stop nursing.
Translocations are possible but not the first place my head goes. We haven't had many on here. The thyroid thing is the most likely cause (apart from sheer bad luck).
11 day LP is still enough to conceive with - that having been said, it's not me who has to go through all this and if the progesterone feels like something to try, then it's a possibility.
Oh and I'm really sorry...I know you've been through the wringer and I'm so sorry this has happened.
I'm sorry you're having such a tough month, this ttc can be such a rollercoaster even when things are straight forward and then adding in extra complications can really let doubt creep in. It's hard to clear the slate and reset. Keep your chin up:bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer: sending you positive thoughts for next cycle. Need some blue cheers in our lives.
A psychic at a ren fest today said she never sees me giving birth to a boy, but I will become pregnant "at any time now."
I knooow this is BS... right? But what if I'm miscarrying all these boys because something IS preventing me from carrying them?!
Also should I throw in n CoQ10? Should DH? How much??
Yes, it's BS! I promise.
NO ONE can't carry boys. There is a rare situation that I'm sure you're aware of, where half the time, a woman can't carry the boys she conceives - but it's only half the time and you'd have some sort of family history. So much more is known now than even just a decade or two ago - it's a lot less likely that your family wouldn't have some knowledge that something was amiss than it was in the 70's and 80's, for example. It doesn't mean it's impossible and by all means, while genetic testing is quite a lot of money if it saves you stress and heartache it may be worth it.
I honestly don't think the Coq is doing anything. I was using it for a while, it really didn't seem to be helping, and while I do still give it to some people just in case, it is expensive. If you want to try it, you can take 200 mg for yourself, 100 mg for your husband.
Thank you. It's so dumb, but that reassurance helps. I'm never doing a damn tarot reading again!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
The rare boy carrying thing though... I think I've mentioned before, but my whole generation of cousins on my mom's side are girls except 2 (who were from uncles, not aunts). Several miscarriages for many and otherwise GIRLS. Literally 88% of my generation in the family is female!
But several of those cousins have had boys -- though one I know had IUI for two of hers. This means they're can't be a genetic thing, right? Especially since I know my husband isn't bringing that to the table since he's from a BBBG family descended from a very evenly mixed family before him.
I got a referall to a fertility doc anyway, so I'll meet just to cross off other things.
I'm sorry I'm asking pretty asinine questions. I feel really out of sorts from yet another loss and that stupid reading. Sometimes I feel like the last two years has been so hard I'm just wishing my life away to get to the "happy" -- my boy.
My bleeding for this CP was really light and short not only compared to my other losses but also just to my period. Should I be concerned about lining issues? I finally got a BFN today after the really light BFPs over the last few days, so this doesn't look like any hopeful situatuon with a vanishing twin or anything, but I didn't even have any cramping and still had early preg symptoms.
your tests no longer have lines right panther? so the probability of still being pregnant isnt there?
Light bleeding with a loss would suggest lining issue to me
Yeah lines went neg, so my desperate, "VANISHING TWIN?" is pretty moot. Never suspected lining either until this weird bleed.
We'll figure it out either way! I moved FAST on this. Just saw an RE today and had a ton of things tested. Have a hysteroscopy next week.
so sad to read this TP :( i am glad your RE has tested for lots of things today which you can then either fix or tick off the list. ignore the psychic!! all women are capable of carrying both genders, i spent 4 years crushed and completely convinced i was defective and couldn't successfully carry a girl after the doctor who dealt with my baby girl mid pregnancy loss made a comment along those lines.. please dont do that to yourself by allowing your mind to go there and believe that (easier said than done i know) whatever this is it is not your body rejecting babies because they are male.
i really hope you get some answers from all your tests so that you can plan the best route forward :heart:
Hi TP!,
I'm not sure if this will hurt you or help you but I'm hoping it will help. My sister went through the same exact thing as you except she didn't have a living child at the time. She kept having MC's (about 5 total) she ended up seeing an RE did 4 or 5 rounds of failed IUI's and I think another MC until her and her husband finally decided to do IVF. Well thank god she did cause the baby took and she now has a very happy healthy 15 month old boy. Not sure how or why the IVF helped but we are just so glad it all worked out. :o
Do you know if she ever figured out why the MCs were happening?Quote:
Originally Posted by Would luv a son3
They really weren't sure but her RE said that he thinks she had some form of PCOS. So I'm guessing "skinny PCOS"? Cause she wansnt over weight but she did have some symptoms. I can ask her more. If there are any specific questions you have let me know and I'll ask her for you.
Yes exactly - if the cousins have had a bunch of boys, it's very unlikely. This would be ALL over the mothers side. It cannot be coming from the dad's side, since it's linked to the X chromosome, and if there was something, he would have it (since males have only one X chromosome)
Also, I didn't want to mention this in the thread and apologies if it sounds harsh, but one of the women who was asking about a psychic a few years back, that you commented in recently, sadly passed away a couple of years ago. The psychics couldn't see that coming, didn't warn her, didn't tell her to see a doctor, nope. They were all full of advice about the gender of her baby but could not see that she had an underlying very serious illness that later killed her. So please put zero stock into the advice and guidelines of psychics even the ones that are purported to be real.
Everyone worries about lining but hardly anyone has ever had a legitimate lining issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
I see quite a lot of chemicals with very light bleeding and at least one study has found this is a variation on how chemicals occur for some. Miscarriage in the Early Weeks It may be that something hormonal keeps the entire lining from coming off until the following month (which I have heard speculation that this may be part of the whole "improved fertility" factor - it may be that your lining is actually great and even better next month because of the chemical.) Total speculation, but I have seen plenty of very light bleeds after chemicals that went on to get pregnant within 1-3 months after, no lining issues at all.
UPDATE:
So after multiple procedures today, we discovered I did have some retained tissue as well as a uterine polyp. We don't know yet if it's placental tissue from my DD or retained from one of the early losses, but I'm scheduled for outpatient procedure in two days to remove it.
All other testing so far has been fine (it'll take weeks for the genetic stuff to get back), including prolactin so I will keep nursing DD before bed as I have until she seems more done!
It's slightly hopeful that the tissue and polyp could have been contributing -- both were right at the entrance of my uterus.
My question remains: I had to take two-three motrin today before the procedure, and the ultrasound did find a larger left follicle suggesting that's where I'll ovulate (though there were others slightly smaller on the right as well). Should I worry about trying this cycle? Doc said I'm fine to try after bleeding stops from procedure, and I could potentially catch the egg this month still.
I AM on antibiotics from the procedures which I know is more of an old school sway tactic, but there it is. Also doing weekly acupuncture, etc. Discovered my weight despite trying not to know it after all these months and it's much higher than I'm comfortable with :( Like highest end of healthy bmi, which is making me extremely anxious. Now will be the huge battle of me staying stable for a boy at this weight and desperately wanting to diet.
Hang in there sweetie! I know you're dealing with a potential relapse. Let your acupuncturist know before your next appointment. I kid you not, they can help with anxiety. I was a HOT mess the cycle before I conceived. While I don't struggle with an eating disorder, my struggle comes from my anxiety causing me to control things and everyone to an emotionally abusive end [emoji20]. I mean I become viscous. I hate it. I try to avoid it all all costs. Luckily my kids are spared but it's not healthy for my DH. Fortunately he's made of steal. Anyway, my point is let them know- they can help. It's not a magic bullet but it may be enough for you to be able to contain it.
I'm praying for you!
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Thinking of you TP, you are so strong. My fingers are crossed for you this cycle.
Thank you guys. I sure haven't been feeling strong!!
Oh XX, I relate so, so much. I have so much empathy and understanding for you. We sound insanely similar in that regard. I will bring it up with her next time -- although she definitely has noticed what a hot mess I am already lol!
Hang in there! I know you can do this! I believe your desire for a son is much stronger. You just have to believe that and refocus the desire to control things to something outside of yourself. Maybe relocating the controlling urge will help. It works for me most of the time. I relocate mine when it happens to cleaning/organizing my house. My kids have learned to leave mommy alone or help out. At least it's productive instead of destructive. This is just a part of who we are. Give it a try.
(((Hugest Hugs)))
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Haha, I've already been simultaneously organizing our closet and creating a playroom for DD!Quote:
Originally Posted by XXforhubby
Definitely trying to keep the faith and combat the fears and failures here. I'm just so desperate for things to go my way finally!
Yes that's great news - there is something going on and there is something that can be fixed.
I think you should try. I think you need to try for your sanity and the fact is none of us know how anything sways at the end of it all.
Thank you atomic, that really helps.
Procedure went well today so I'm all squeaky clean and ready to go once the bleeding stops. It's barely just spotting, so hopefully we'll be able to DTD soon ;)
so glad they found something they could act on and make right for you TP hang in there with the weight you have worked so hard on HE and remember its not forever its to get you to your baby boy :heart:
Looks like I'm about to have another chemical :(
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Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
Just throwing this out there, I have not read all previous posts, and I don’t know you, so I apologize if this is old news... but I had three chemical pregnancies. Two of which I know had to be due to a weakened immune system. I had been fighting about a hundred flat warts on my face while trying to conceive, (about a year) after burning them four times, and trying homeopathic gels, and not getting pregnant my mother suggested I try to do a liver cleanse to see if it would help my immune system recognize the warts. I took liver cleanse herbs, and garlic, ( and more recently diatomatious earth) to try and clean my liver and kill any bacteria, viruses, or parasites. I got pregnant ( with a boy, but I was also eating high nutrient Whole Foods to go with the liver cleanse) the cycle after the cleanse.
I do know from your posts that you are a go getter, a lot like myself, bound and determined to accomplish goals. I am assuming you have probably studied about this or had much advice given to you from atomic. I just thought I would share my experience for whatever it is worth.
Oh, and the warts went away immediately after the cleanse too. Thank goodness!
And of course best wishes!!
I don't seem to have any immunity issues based on testing and eat a lot of garlic and quality foods already, so not sure if that would make a difference, but thank you, I do appreciate the input.
My acupuncturist said I feel pregnant to her still, but tests are so faint. I wish my RE had returned my calls.
Not looking forward to Femara. I wish we could just do IVF with PGD but DH and I have gotten into fights every time I bring it up...
I have considered IVF PGD too, and I can’t get past the awful feeling I would get throwing away embryos, because I can only have one more baby. Otherwise, I think the idea sounds great... expensive... but it would be worth it.
I get the whole fighting with the husband issue. I mention six kids and he gets an upset stomach. :D even talking about swaying drives him nuts because he doesn’t want me to get my hopes up. Guess I can’t blame him, poor guy has to live with my emotions over the whole gender desire thing.
I hope you ARE Still pregnant. And things finally go your way. Good luck.