If you really are only 3dpo (which I highly suspect you are), then there's just no way those are true positives. I've actually had problems with those cheapie ones giving bad evaps.
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If you really are only 3dpo (which I highly suspect you are), then there's just no way those are true positives. I've actually had problems with those cheapie ones giving bad evaps.
If you're really 3 DPO there's no way those are positives! I don't recommend ever testing before 7 DPO at the earliest and I prefer more like 10-12. Now, some people can have conceived sooner than they thought but given your chart I doubt you did, the chart seems pretty accurate.
I love your nails aa those are so pretty!
Thanks girls! I posted it on a tweaking page in Babycenter and apparently there is a wonky batch of wondfos out right now. I was given the lot # and unfortunately I have the wonky lot... ladies were having their husbands test and it was coming up as positive lol [emoji23]Quote:
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I only tested to be able to see progression (If I happen to conceive) and never would have thought I'd see something... especially with how early I am in days past ovulation... so when I saw it I was like oh [emoji599] red flag... so my first through was did I O earlier than I thought? Bc during my normal cycles without Clomid I would O on CD9.... anyways, now that I know I have the wonky batch, It all makes sense now. I appreciate all responses from you girls [emoji175] I so desperately want a little girl.. I'm praying it happens this month! I'm so glad I chart so that I can confirm O with my temps.
And thanks!! I got some "me time" this weekend and it's only day I have to pamper myself every few weeks. We all deserve a little me time [emoji6]
Here's my chart today: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...291bd5a446.jpg
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What is this me time of which you speak LOL? :)
Thanks for letting us know about the bad Wondfos! I can't keep up on all this stuff so really appreciate you guys letting me know.
Haha I know, right?! Usually it's going to a doc appt alone... woohoo!Quote:
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Here is the info on the batch:
Bad lot # for wondfo: W00170116-3
And you're welcome. Spread the word for anyone else... I know it's not so heartbreaking for me, but it could be for someone else who is at the end of their cycle testing with them.
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Thanks so much!! Really appreciate it!
AF is due today and I believe she's starting... took a HPT and its negative... Onto the second round of Clomid. My doc gave me the same dosage 50mg. and said I can take it days 3-7 or 5-9 again it's up to me. I've read better results with taking it 3-7 so I think I'm going to take it days 3-7. I've been thinking the past few days about what I wanted to do for my second round of Clomid and ttc our little girl. Rather than posting several comments, I've complied them into one to make it a little easier. I was looking into odds of conceiving twin girls, and if that happens, I'll be thrilled, but even if I just get 1 girl, I'd be happy. :)
Question #1: For my second round of clomid, Should I do the E4D attempt and then an additional attempt on positive OPK? or just E4D?
Question #2: Every 4 days-- does that mean dtd on say CD6, then again on CD10 CD14, etc? or does it need to be 4 entire cut off days then BD (CD6, CD11, CD15, for the example mentioned) Just needed some clarification for that.
Question #3: I've seen some forums with women using pregnitude along with clomid-- Do you think that'll increase my chances and sway for girl? If so when would I take it? I can get it as early as tomorrow from amazon-- which may be CD2 for me (if AF arrives today).
Question #4: After reading through success stories I've seen that exercise helps sway girl (hubby and myself). Hubby is in the army and jogs 3x a week, so that's that... I could increase my physical activity more. Also have read that coffee helps sway girl... I currently drink one cup of caffeinated coffee a day... If I take in too much caffeine, I get migraines-- could I drink decaf and it provide a good sway too?
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me on my journey to conceive a girl.
Yes I thin CD 3-7 is best results for conception.
1)I'd do e4d this time and then switch to e4d plus one next time.
2)you can do it either Monday/Thurs or Monday/Friday (not those specific days thats just an example). Closer attempts may be better chances of conception but lower odds of pink (still good though) and further attempts may be better odds of pink, lower odds of conception. Since you are on the Clomid I'd have you do the closer attempts so Mon/Thurs pattern
3)I only recommend pregnitude for those with moderate to severe PCOS or more than 30-50 lbs to lose.
4)Yes, exercise is among our best sway tactics. Hubby jogging is great. If you want to exercise it may help.
5)We don't know if decaf sways or not. I assume it does, because I think it's likely the coffee itself and not the caffeine (at least not caffeine alone) but we don't honestly know for sure.
Hi Atomic!Quote:
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I had a follow-up appt with my obgyn this morning to discuss the results of my sonogram I had a couple weeks ago. He told me that they found several bead-like cysts on my left ovary and that there were a few follicles just keeping put... He said upon the results of the ultrasound, and my blood work, and a few other things, he really feels that I have PCOS. He gave me another round of Clomid (to take next cycle since I'm on cd8 and just took my second round days 3-7) and prescribed metformin to start taking immediately. Do you have experience with metformin? Does it sway? My doc said when Clomid and metformin are used together, the chances are higher for pregnancy. Do you think I should start metformin now on cd8? Or wait until next cycle? I just don't want it to screw up my cycle or sway.
My other question is, I'm praying for twins, is metformin going to reduce that chance?
Thanks in advance!! :)
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I’m pretty sure metformin sways pink as it lowers blood sugars, do clomid & metformin is a strong pink sway from memory. Wishing you loads of luck!
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Awww thank you girl!! XoxoQuote:
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Just confirm with atomic, but I am pretty sure. Hoping so!
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Thank you so much! I'm trying to research it all but It got hard from my phone... Switching the the desktop now :)Quote:
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Yes go ahead and start it now, it sways pink we believe.Quote:
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We don't know if Met reduces chances for twins or not. Just don't have that information. I do kknow Clomid increases it so it's all good there. FX!
Good Morning Atomic!
I wanted to provide an update on my journey... my second round of Clomid when wonky with my cycles... not sure what happened but when I saw the doc on Jan 4th for my 2nd round appt, he told me that he believes that I have PCOS based on what he saw from my ultrasound during round 1. He told me to start taking metformin right away... I asked him whether or not I could take pregnitude and he said that it wouldn't hurt if I did, so I went ahead and ordered some and started taking it. In addition to Clomid 50mg days 3-7, I'm taking metformin every night with my dinner, pregnitude morning and night, and then adding in folic acid for extra consumption of it. We DTD E4D (72 hour version last cycle) and I ended up getting AF on CD18. Never had a positive OPK. I'm using Clearblue Advanced amileys which show a hollow, flashing smiley for LH detected, and a solid smiley for your peak day. I had flashing smileys for 8.5 days before I stopped testing and AF arrived the next day. I was also using the cheap wondfo ovulation test strips to double check what the clearblue was reading and I didn't have a positive on those either. My temps were very high throughout my cycle... I first thought Clomid was the cause bc during my first round, it elevated it some, but it came back down before O time. This time, my pre-O temps were at the point of where my post-O temps usually are (high 98 degrees and above). It only came down when I started AF. I feel like this cycle (my second round) was a waste! I called my Doc first thing on Monday morning and he is not in until Friday morning... I spoke directly with his RN and explained the situation and that I wanted to see if he would increase my dosage to 100mg since I didn't O this past round. She told me that normally he won't allow someone to increase their 50mg dose to 100 until they've had 3 cycles with the 50mg. Since I was on my second she said to just stick with the 50mg for this third round unless I get a call from the doc sooner than the day I'm supposed to start it. I didn't hear anything back from him, so I went ahead and started my third round of 50mg... I'm still doing all the same things I did for round #2. I've attached my Fertility Friend chart for my wonky cycle. Please help direct me on what I should do. I'm currently on CD4.
What I'm doing:
Clomid 50mg days 3-7
Metfromin 500mg once daily
Pregnitude Morning and Night
Folic Acid
Coffee 3x a day (1 caffeinated, 2 decaf)
Skipping Breakfast
DTD E4D (72 hour)
No Orgasm
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Well, I'd rather you took only the metformin. When did the short cycle occur in correlation to when you started the Pregnitude?? I think met and Pregnitude together are too much of a good thing.
Are they sure you didn't ovulate? I agree your chart looks anovulatory but sometimes temping on Clomid is unreliable.
Are they sure this is a true bleed and not some midcycle bleeding?
I think you need to stick with the 50 and ditch the Pregnitude and see what happens.
Ok, I'll do that. My doc talked about uping my metformin dose gradually and that's when I mentioned about using the pregnitude instead. But for now, I'll stop the pregnitude before I get too far taking it.Quote:
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I started Pregnitude the same day I started metformin-- Jan 4th. My cycle for that month started Dec 28th and went till Jan 13th, got AF on Jan 14th. At first I thought it was just mid cycle spotting, bc I had read online that metformin can do that, but as the day went on the flow got heavier... then on Monday and Tuesday I was changing tampons quite frequently, so I was sure it was AF. Actually, this was even much heavier than my previous AF (Dec 28th cycle)
As far as Ovulation, I only temp and do OPKs. Usually I have almost 2 days worth of cramping/O pain and i didn't have that during the wonky cycle. My next ultrasound isn't until Jan 27th and that's just to check the cyst they found on my left ovary.
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Here are my past cycles.
1st pic was my first round of Clomid 50mg days 5-9
2nd pic was my second round of Clomid 50mg days 3-7
3rd pic is my current (third round) cycle Clomid 50mg days 3-7 https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f5b91feec7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f286c45ac0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c1fbaa67a2.jpg
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Star, I hope this new cycle is your one. [emoji120][emoji177]
Thank you sooo much Filzma! You girls have been such a great support system to me. Idk what I'd do without all of you! xoxoQuote:
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Yeah I think you're right, anovulatory cycle with bleeding (not technically AF, but still acts as hormonal reset.)
Let's do exactly what we discussed, ditch Pregnitude, keep everything else. Most docs really have a limited experience thus far with Pregnitude (I am only just now starting to feel like I "know" Pregnitude LOL) and so I tend to trust my instincts on this vs. the doc. At the least it's something we can change up.
Thank you, Atomic. I agree. My doc is just an obgyn... not a RE... so I believe we are just experimenting on what they can do... he's not monitoring me on many things that I see other women being monitored with.Quote:
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I'm on CD5 now, and have taken 2 doses of Clomid 50mg CD3 and CD4 for my 3rd round cd3-7.... My doc told me to just continue taking it as directed even though I had that anovulatory cycle that was literally cut in half of my normal cycle length... would the Clomid that I took for my anovulatory cycle cd3-7 still be built up in my system while adding in more to this cycle? What I mean is am I giving my body an overload of Clomid too fast since I only had 19 days in between rounds? I'm probably looking into it too much but these are the things that cross my mind. Ha!
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No it's gone by now, you're fine to take it again. Clomid doesn't build up the way you're really thinking of it. :)
Hi Atomic! It's looking like I'm having another anovulatory cycle again this month. I had a followup ultrasound to check up on the cyst they had found during my first cycle back in December.... all of that came out well-- when they first found the cyst it was 3cm and my doc said with the followup ultrasound it looks like it's resolved itself. I stopped taking the metformin about 10 days ago but I didn't mention it to him. He also upped my dosage to 100mg of Clomid and said that days 5-9 Are most successful... what do you think?Quote:
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The first round on 50mg i Ovulated taking it days 5-9.... the 2nd and 3rd round I took it days 3-7 And had anovulatory cycles. I thought that the only changes I had made between the first round and second round was adding in the metformin and when I switched the days from 5-9 to 3-7. I'll attach my link for fertility friend just to get your opinion on what I should do.
Lastly, he told me that if I don't get pregnant with 3 more cycles of Clomid 100mg, that he'll then refer me to a reproductive endocrinologist... only thing is that my insurance doesn't cover IUI or IVF just prescriptions only. Should I have asked my doc to do more tests on me? I've never had the progesterone test given. I'm on CD20 and had a temp drop over the past couple days--- feeling like AF is coming. Do you think I should order some over the counter Progesterone cream? Can it hurt me ttc or my sway if I take it and don't need it? I don't know much about it, but figured you might know the best thing to do. Just looking for your roundabout opinion... I don't know where else to turn :(
Other things I'm doing to sway girl:
3 cups of coffee daily (1 caffeinated, 2 decaf)
1600mg of folic acid daily
Skipping breakfast
DTD E4D (72 hour version)
Thank you!
Fertility friend: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/46a231
Af is def on her way. Brown spotting has started and I'm very crampy. :( so this will be a 20 day cycle and my last one was a 17 day cycle. Idk what's going on.
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Can you tell me more about your diet? ARe you taking fiber? If so, stop taking it.
No OTC progesterone cream. It's not made to sustain a pregnancy, it's made for postmenopausal women and has about 1/10th of the amount of progesterone your body needs to sustain pregnancy. Plus, even prescription strength progesterone cream has been shown to be nothing more than a placebo anyway - the rates of pregnancy are no higher with and without it.
if you haven't ovulated, the issue would not be progesterone anyway. Progesterone rises after ovulation occurs and so prog cream would simply stretch out the cycle while delaying ovulation more. I"m going to look over your charts and see if anythign jumps out at me.
Hey, if it worked on CD 5-9 last time, let's absolutely try that again. That way you'll have time to allow estrogen to rise a bit before hitting it with the Clomid.
I'm not taking any fiber.Quote:
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I really am not dieting. I weigh about 113 lbs, I'm tall and skinny. I've been only watching the amt of red meats and the only thing I've been doing differently with my diet is skipping breakfast. I've never struggled with my weight with both gaining or losing. I think I take in a lot of carbs since I'm not really watching it too closely.
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:agree: Ok. I just have to make sure since I often end up finding out people are eating 500 cals a day. :)
So, let's be sure you're eating a serving of full fat dairy every day and 4-6 eggs a week and then do the Clomid CD 5-9. It may just be you're not having enough time to make estrogen before we block it with the Clomid.
Oh and I forgot to mention this but I did look over your charts and the two recent ones do look anovulatory to me as well.
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Thank you so much for the suggestions! So I know that I don't take in a lot of dairy as it is. What foods do you suggest as a full serving of full fat dairy? I was born lactose intolerant and so for a while I didn't touch it at all. Over my life I've built up a better tolerance of it. When I had my youngest son in June 2015, I had to go dairy free since he had a dairy protein allergy. I stopped nursing him when we started our ttc journey in July 2016. And went back to my normal eating habits. I still cant tolerate yellow cheese-- for instance, I can't stomach taking a slice of cheese out of the fridge and eating it... but eating fresh pizza out of a hot oven is just fine. I know, weird. Haha. But a full serving will be fine if you can give me some suggestions. For eggs, is scrambled suggested or egg whites? I'm not into the yolk but can eat it scrambled... and I love egg whites. Is there recommendations for both dairy and eggs that sway girl? Thanks in advance!
Emily
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Also, do you think I should start taking metformin again?
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My temps are already starting to rise only on CD3. [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] my usual AF temps are in the 97.3-97.9 range.
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Can you do yogurt or even ice cream? (I hesitate at ice cream because I'm lactose intolerant and I can't have ice cream, unfortunately) If you can't, then add in more eggs (like 2 per day) Or butter - that's 100% dairy fat haha and doesn't have much lactose in it at all.Quote:
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I want you to have the yolk of the egg. That's the part that has the good fat in it. So scrambled is fine!
The dairy and eggs in excess may sway blue but right here and now you need that fat to get you ovulating normally. So don't worry about your sway right now. It's like turning a radio dial, right now you actually need to turn the dial a little more towards blue to get you ovulating again.
Refresh my memory, why were you on Metformin and why did you stop?
My inclination is for you to not take the Metformin since I am not sure that is what our issue is.
This can mean you're a little lower in estrogen, did you take the Clomid?Quote:
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Not for this new cycle yet. Was going to go back to days 5-9Quote:
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Ice cream and yogurt it is lol. :) and scrambled eggs.Quote:
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I was prescribed metformin after my first ultrasound... whoever read my results from the hospital put in the notes that it looked like I had PCOS from the photos they got... so my obgyn said that with my bloodwork, excessive fatigue, acne and now the ultrasound results, he felt that I have PCOS. So he put me on a small dose everyday (500mg). I started that Jan 4th and that was also the first cycle that I switched my Clomid to days 3-7... and it happened to be anovulatory... then came my 3rd round of Clomid and I took them again days 3-7 also still taking metformin.... so after this past cycle was also anovulatory, I decided to discontinue the metformin on my own.
I didn't consult it with my doc but if you think it's a good thing to continue to take with my larger dose of Clomid this cycle (plan on taking 100mg days 5-9) I'll start back up.
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I'm going to call into my doc office tomorrow and just request a blood panel to see what my levels are... and also for a thyroid check. If they won't do it, may be my regular PCP will. I began to think I was having low estergon bc of my temps... under our assumption that, that is going on without a blood test to confirm (only going on temps right now) what I can i do to increase it?
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I would try staying off the Metformin. Let's just see what happens with just the Clomid in case the Met is too much of a good thing. Metformin has been shown to lower estrogen and of course Clomid blocks estrogen, so let's just see if it works better without the Met.
Eating more fat will help get the estrogen up.
:agree: getting a blood test. Keep me posted!!!!
So I called my obgyn office and asked about blood work... And the nurse told me that I had blood work done on 9/16/17 to check my levels and it all came back in normal range... And then I said well, I'd like for my thyroid to be checked and she told me that they checked it on the same day as before and my TSH was .66 which was considered normal in their range. They said they only get concerned if it's below a .35.... so then she said I should discuss my concerns with my doc at my next appt on 2/28/18. So that's the furthest I got with them.Quote:
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My temps haven't gone too high, which is good!!!
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Welll...unfortunately hormones can fluctuate a lot by the month so tests done on estrogen and progesterone in Sept. are not going to help us any now. But, if they won't do anything they won't. Let's give it a month without the Met and see what happens. FXFXFX!!!
I know, it was disappointing that my only option is to wait to talk to my doc in 2 weeks. Urgh. I guess that's the difference when you see a OBGYN than a specialist. My friend who was at a specialist said they have her blood tests monthly. I thought ahead and made an appt with a RE bc they are scheduling into late April right now which would line up with the time that I would be referred from my OBGYN if I don't get pregnant. Hoping that I'll end up having to cancel that appt bc of a pregnancy. 🤞🤞🤞 and thanks for the fx!! I can use all I can get! :)Quote:
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