19wk scan today they think its a boy but not with strong certainty. I will be getting a 32wk scan. Boy #3 for me.
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19wk scan today they think its a boy but not with strong certainty. I will be getting a 32wk scan. Boy #3 for me.
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OH, gosh Kiwi I'm so sorry it didn't go how we were hoping. How unsure were they??
We went for an elective one today as I couldnt deal with the uncertainty and needed to see with my own eyes and he's all boy!
Will be honest, have shed a lot of tears but will be able to move forward and love him now. Unsure whether we will go for #4 later or 3 will be enough for me.
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:hugs: :heart: :hugs: There is something very very special about our opposites. I know it's so hard though - especially at first.
Thanks Atomic. I had really hoped DS2 was a girl and he is so devine and brings so much joy. This next one will be 18mths younger so hopefully they will be great buds.
Its hard not to analyze what didn't work but I did struggle with the diet as I eat quite alot (normal weight PCOS) and to reduce the fat & protein in my diet as my blood sugar can be so unstable and I find my mood plummets with not much protein.
I didn't take a prenatal but I was still on low doses of zinc and cal/mag for my mental health through a practitioner. I had demonstrated zinc deficiency. I had been off omega 3 for 6mths when we conceived though.
Re our timing, we were doing E4D as with my mc cycle I never got a + OPK. My darkest OPK with this cycle was CD13. We BD days 6, 9 and 13. When they dated me at 13wks it put ovulation at CD12. It is haunting me a bit we ended up with 2 attempts in the window as DS2 was concieved a long way from ovulation. I think next time I would be more patient and use a barrier method until + OPK once i got better at using them.
Hubby wants a 4th regardless, I think I will let him have his way. If we sway again I will pay for a personalised plan but how is the pill rating in your stats? If I went on that for few months after breastfeeding, the one for PCOS reduces androgens as well, would that help sway?
We live in New Zealand so high tech is a pretty remote option for us.
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I wouldn't go too nuts analyzing what went wrong...I understand the tendency but for all we know you had an ideal sway and just fell into the group of opposites that seems to exist no matter how much we try to break through that upper ceiling.
The pill does seem to help and it's certainly worth a go - I don't feel we have a good body of data to prove this, but biologically the pill should sway pink.
How much protein and fat were you eating?
I wasn't counting grams, I was worried I would get too obsessive & anxious about my intake. I made changes to my diet which is usually high fat high protein due to blood sugar lows and also needing to be gluten free.
I changed things like instead of a paleo nut and seed muesli on my fruit & yogurt breakfast, had a gluten free grain based muesli.
Went for honey or jam instead of peanut butter etc.
We usually eat meat daily (seems common in NZ), sometimes leftovers or tuna for lunch as well so I tried to keep lunch vegetarian, reduce meat serving size at dinner and have vegetarian dinners twice a week, no bacon.
I cut way back on butter and dairy (which I love).
I wasn't underweight but I do seem to have a fast metabolism if I compare what I eat with my friends.
I think if I had a meal plan to follow that would be easier on my mind than counting grams.
I was on metformin 500mg 3x a day with this baby and my 2nd. It had no effect on my weight but certainly shortened my cycles to within the realm of normal. My first was conceived cycle day 42, my second day 19 and this one 13 or 14 but yes all boys!
Also quite a coffee drinker and plenty of alcohol with DS1 & DS2 [emoji6]
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I know it's annoying but it's particularly important with PCOS to count the grams of fat and protein. Because by getting a certain amount of fat and protein, and then a specific amount of calories, we ensure you don't go overboard eating carbs. An excess of carbs for PCOSers can possibly sway blue so that is one thing we may want to focus on. Anyone with PCOS will be best off skipping things that have sugars in them like honey and jam. But the metformin does help a lot with that and if any way to use the Met in the future I'd definitely do that
I should be allowed met again due to my age and time to conception.
Toast was a hard one as my gf bread is the highest fibre grain food I have but anything I put on it was hfhp or high sugar.
I had an eating disorder when I was young into my 20s so counting grams just feels like a total no-no for me and I had thought the obsess factor of it would sway blue for me and hopefully the met would outweigh the diet issue.
If I sway again, perhaps I will just be too busy chasing 3 boys to get obsessive about my diet and just count sensibly.
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Yes that definitely adds a wrinkle - we would likely just have you do the PCOS diet I made that requires no counting of the grams if you decide to sway again.
Hi Atomic,
I'm back again... my baby boy is 4.5mths old and soooo yummy., I'm so in love with him. You are right about them being special thats for sure.
The topic of number four is often in conversation (mostly when).
Due to the GD I had after the last gender scan and my hubby's negative experience with licorice (sooo moody) he is not keen on swaying hard this time.
I want to check, how long before trying should I wean off supps?
Is Diane 35/Estelle 35/Ginet a pill worth trying to delay pregnancy and sway pink? I'm a bit bothered by the PCOS sxs these days. I don't know if its age or my diet and lack of exercise breastfeeding and having three children.
I will try for met again, I'm 35 now, and use the OPKs... I have like 40 leftover from the last baby.
Is the PCOS eating plan part of your personalised plan?
We have totally dropped the licorice root - it hasn't worked and caused too many side effects.
12 weeks beforehand I would be off prenatals and stuff.
If you will be on the BCP longer than a month or two then yes go for it. When people are only on it for 1-2 months I think it creates more trouble than it's worth but otherwise if you'll be on it a while then it may help sway pink.
The PCOS Diet is part of the plan for anyone who needs to be on it. I would def. recommend it for you. https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gen...rt-3-pcos.html
Thank you. Hubby is on board with swaying again. We are thinking to plan for a 20mth ish gap so would need to start diet in near future.
Would probiotics be included in the 3mths beforehand things to stop or just the cycle before? I'm very prone to thrush and find they help.
Are the jellies still scratched for swaying?
I have fallen pregnant first time each time we've tried so I'm ok with cutting the odds of conception alot to sway.
Lastly, if I purchase a plan is your diet compatible with people living overseas (do you specify brands for example)?
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The only problem with starting diet too soon postpartum is that it may make your cycle take longer to come back. ARe you nursing?
If you need the probiotics you need them. Things that are for your health need to take precedence over swaying. If you come off them I'd do it 12 weeks before you plan to try, though.
The jellies are up to you - they have not helped at all and have really cut odds of conception hugely, but some people do want to start off using them. Totally your choice
With the personalized plans I work with you in the coaching forum to tweak your diet (using foods you already like and are accustomed with). I do not make a custom diet. We work together to make your diet via the coaching. The custom plan is everything BUT diet and it comes with the coaching service. :)
Ok so the personalised plan is the 6mth one and the coaching plan is the bundle that lasts 12mths?
Probably mummy brain but I'm having trouble choosing. Due to the exchange rate I think the bundle is out of reach for me. I think for the gap we want we need to attempt in Feb and March for a Nov/Dec baby but maybe attempt in Jan too.
Yes I'm still nursing but not full time as I don't have a full supply but I am double pumping a bit but ready to give it up soon due to other children to care for too. He is on formula during the night usually though.
Every plan that says "personalized" in it is personalized. There is an option for 6 month coaching along with a personalized plan, and 12 months. the only one you don't want to buy is the "Immediate Download" as that is NOT personalized (although you could have it right away) and it doesn't come with coaching.
Ok so I got my new prescription for met. Is it ok to take it with psyllium? (Will the fibre reduce absorption).
We've agreed to have our attempts in Jan/Feb/March (Feb being ideal but I mc last time we started & it delayed things a bit getting back to O).
This means starting diet at the start of Oct.
Is there benefit to doing the diet longer or is there the risk of falling off the wagon before getting preg?
Should I buy a plan now or closer to Oct so I have more time on it at the other end?
Wondering about OLE and folate and ordering these from iherb.
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Yes fiber can mess with met absorption so just don't take it at the same time of day. You also will want to avoid mixing metformin if you're having alcohol. The metformin is likely more effective than the fiber so if you can't get a schedule worked out to include them both please drop the fibr and keep the met.
Most people (buying the 6 month coaching) like to have the plan about 3 months before they plan to try. This gives 3 months of lead time and then 3 months swaying with my help. Our average time to conception is 3 months so for most people this works out just fine. You can also renew the coaching for a small fee if you need to.
12 weeks on diet before trying. No benefit to being on it longer than that before trying and in fact a risk that you'll stop ovulating if you cut back too far for too long.
I do give most people OLE and folate so that's a safe purchase.
Thanks so much, I decided to buy a personalised plan now since my schedule is a little less hectic at the moment and it gives me plenty of time to get sorted before starting PCOS LE etc. Also great I'll be up to 1500mg/day of met by then as well.
I know what you mean about mixing metformin with alcohol. Yuck.
Can you let me know what to do next and either link the questionnaire here or tell me to expect it by email.
Ok plus since you're on that high a dose I'd just skip fiber totally.
The link to the questionnaire is here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/misc.php?do=forms