Good luck Mrs. E!!
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Good luck Mrs. E!!
Because you can only take it 6 months (if that long, many docs will only allow 3/4) in a row before you have to stop using it. This is because if you take it many months in a row you will end up temporarily infertile. So taking it and not trying is wasting a month of time you could have been trying to conceive and gets you one month closer to the time when you can no longer use it. It's like burning up $100 hoping that you may get $125 the next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by onebigwish
I prefer 50 mg but some people have taken 25. Totally up to you.
:agree: there are also some rarer but serious side effects like cysts, allergic reactions, vision changes, and so on. Those things would mean you couldn't take Clomid any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
I'm pretty sure I O'd!! I had another high bbt this morning, and I was a bit suspicious of it, because I had spontaneously woken up about twenty minutes before I was supposed to get up, so i temped after laying in bed awake for twenty minutes, but I'm feeling pretty confident now because on my way to work I had a fit of "progesterage" -- the tendency to anger I get when my progesterone is high. It's pretty ridiculous. Nothing bad or annoying happened to me today, I was just recalling past incidences of when people "did me wrong" and getting myself all worked up and cussing out the offenders in my head.
So I think I have about a 1/5 chance of being pregnant now.
Fingers crossed mrs English!
Progesterage haha yes I'm very familiar with that. I try and try to explain to my husband "no I get PMS for about a week after I ovulate, has nothing to do with my period, if anything getting my period is a relief!" But men think "eh she's on the rag" or whatever. :/
Uninteresting update: I'm 9 DPO. My gut feeling is that I'm not pregnant this cycle, but if I have at least a 10 day luteal phase I'll be happy. Last time I only had an 8 day luteal phase. If I don't see AF by 13 DPO which is Monday, I'll POAS.
FXFXFX!!!
12 DPO and no AF yet!!
Pre-pregnancy I'd always get AF 12 DPO, sometimes morning, sometimes evening.
I'm trying not to let myself get too excited because AF isn't "late" until tomorrow morning. Also, the Clomid I took could have just made my luteal phase longer, since I don't know how Clomid affects my luteal phase since the two other times I used it I either got pregnant or had an 8 day luteal phase (when used shortly post partum).
Intuitively, I do not feel pregnant at all. When I was this far along the time I was pregnant, I already had felt implantation, was having itchiness, light headedness, and uterine cramping after orgasm. I have none of that now, and feel great and clear headed.
Hey, I"ve had pregnancies with really early symtoms and other pregnancies without any till I was more like 5-6 weeks. There's no rhyme or reason to it! Good luck!
Fx mrs English can't wait for an update!
First thing in the morning I POAS -- BFN.
Two hours later AF came.
On the bright side, I now have a luteal phase compatible with pregnancy.
So I have a date with Clomid tonight ��
Awww, I'm so sorry this wasn't the month - but great news your LP was so long!! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
Hello My Swaying Friends! It has been awhile! I need some advice from Clomid and Femara experts! My OB just had a baby and isn't available for questions right now.
I have been on Clomid and Femera for 12 months - (3 Clomdid, 2 Femera, 3 clomid, 4 Femara) . The last 2 rounds of Femara they added Progesterone - which shortened my cycle ( even though I started it day 17, well after I ovulated)
My last cycle was only 19 days!! (I am normally 28 with nothing, 28 on Femara and 33 on Clomid)
We decided to let my body rest for several months... so even with NO meds.. this month my period came on day 18!! Has anyone else had an issue with their cycle shortening after meds? I am concerned that my body now wont ovulate without meds. And using Progesterone - even for only 2 months - has totally messed me up!
My daughter was conceived naturally on day 12- with 3 months of swaying. We are desperate for several more baby girls :( But now I am all mixed up!
Yes IMVVVVHO you should have been off meds for at least part of that time. Reading that actually makes me break into a cold sweat. :/ It's no wonder your cycle is screwy!
I think you are going to see some weirdness for at least a month or two while this works itself out. Can u give me more information? Why were you on the medication? Are you not ovulating on your own? Are you taking anything else? Were you following a sway diet for part of this time? What are you eating now?
Good Morning!
I actually was off for a few cycles in there :) But during those months my cycle went back to normal right away.
The issue is my husband - I do ovulate normally but we needed to give him more targets. I had blood work and ultrasounds each month and i was reacting perfectly ( not over producing, great numbers all around) We added Progesterone " just to see" and both times it shortened my cycle - but then we stopped everything all together.
I was sway dieting and still am for the most part. We had used a small amount of PreSeed ( not not much, per your advice)
I do have metformin that I could take.. but i havent since last march because it didnt seem to help and gave me tummy troubles
So close to starting my first cycle using clomid, spotting started today.
When were talking take it at night, do you mean right before bed or a few hours before?
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Hi! Clomid and Femara are not meant to be taken for so long. I agree that you need a while off drugs. Especially progesterone since your cycle shortened after that. Your husband having a low sperm count already sways girl, so I think you should consider dropping any sways that hurt conception chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoobie1124
Could you afford IVF where they actually insert the sperm into the egg? Because if your DH's sperm count is too low, having two eggs instead of one doesn't seem like it would help that much, because if the sperm are making it there they could fertilize the one egg... Maybe IUI would help the sperm get closer?
I'm a big fan of Clomid, but I'm just not sure it is the best move in your case. OTOH, I've heard if the MAN takes Clomid, it can improve his sperm count.
Hope you get good news soon
You want to wait until you get full blown AF to start Clomid, not just spotting. If you seem like you have AF but not sure because it lighter than normal, POAS because you can be pregnant and have bleeding, and if you take Clomid in early pregnancy it can cause miscarriage.Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
Anyway, to answer your question, I take it right before going to sleep. While you want to take it around the same time each day, taking it a 9 pm one night and 11 pm the next night is fine.
Thanks Mrs English! Will be waiting til day 3 of full af [emoji51]Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
Getting very nervous.
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Oh ok good! Whew! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoobie1124
So hubby has MFI so we are trying to make you pop more eggs? Just want to be sure I understand the reasoning. Because as long as you're ovulating regularly and don't have PCOS (right?) then the Metformin is not going to help anything. If it's on DH's end we need to focus on that. Is he on any vitamins?
:agree: yes you need to wait for the actual flow to begin and start counting from there, unless your period always starts 14 DPO with a day or two of spotting and that's just the norm for you. Either way, though, it's forgiving stuff, ok to start CD 2 or 4 or 5 even so if you aren't sure just take your best guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
Most will take right before bed to minimize symptoms.
Thanks again ladies, still waiting patiently for what I would consider full flow...
Reading over drs instruction sheet with the clomid, he says
1. Avoid alcohol - should this just be the 5 days I take it or the whole cycle?
2. Suck sugar free lollies to help nausea - curious what your thoughts are on this!?!
Also diet vs non diet soft drink as mixer with alcohol. Phenylalanine seems to be the sweetener here in aus in soft drinks
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1. The most common side effect (from people I know online) of Clomid is headache and moodiness. I haven't really heard many people complain about nausea, vomiting, or vision problems as side effects of Clomid, but they are listed, and those are also side effects of alcohol, so the reason they say no alcohol with Clomid is because if Clomid causes nausea as a side effect and so does alcohol, then you could get really bad nausea since they both contribute. So IMO if after 5 days, you haven't had any side effects of Clomid, then you should be able to drink a reasonable amount of alcohol. If you are taking Clomid for fertility problems, it's probably best to skip the alcohol because alcohol slightly hurts conception. If you are taking Clomid just for swaying, then a reasonable amount of alcohol should be fine (IMO).Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
2. Like I said, I've heard very few complaints about nausea as a side effect of Clomid, so I wouldn't be too worried about it, but if you do get nausea there are a lot of home remedies you can try, and I can see how sucking on a lolly could help. When I was pregnant and had nausea, drinking flavored water and soda pop helped. Some people swear by Ginger for nausea.
What day are you on now? I'm CD 7 of my cycle.
Thanks for your thoughts Mrs English, all very helpful [emoji3]Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
Hoping today is going to kickoff properly... 🤞🏻
CD7 for you! When do you usually ovulate?
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Before getting pregnant or using Clomid, when I'd ovulate on my own it would always be CD 21 - CD 23.
My first round of Clomid when I took it properly (after getting AF naturally), I ovulated on CD 17 and got pregnant.
Three months after birth I took Clomid without having had AF, and ovulated really early for me, I think about a week after finishing the Clomid, and I actually think that I did conceive that cycle but it didn't stick because I had an 8 day luteal phase.
About a month and a half after that I took 25 mg Clomid midcycle and ovulated 27 days later but didn't get pregnant despite a good luteal phase.
So now I just took 50 mg Clomid after having AF, so I'd guess that I'll ovulate around CD 17, but anything from CD 12 to CD 27 wouldn't be surprising.
Wow! What a huge variety of outcomes. Wishing you luck this cycle. Let’s see where we end up 🤞🏻Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsEnglish
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My Husband is on Fertility Vitamin - although our RE preety much rolled his eyes when he told him that :think:Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I dont have PCOS - but they thought a low dose of metformin could regulate any issues we arent catching.
Also - since Sept - it seems like every month something weird happened - Flu on last day of Clomid, UTI on Optimal O day, Food Poisoning by husband on day 13 (We DTD day 12 and 15... but maybe missed the perfect day?) Etc. So maybe all of these are just flukes?
My body could have been a poster child for Clomid and Femara -- I reacted perfectly - great numbers - typical side effects but nothing bad. etc.
We have seen some improvement with our couples that are doing IVF in terms of improving sperm quality so have him keep that up no matter how hard the RE rolls his eyes. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoobie1124
:agree: in that case fine to keep going with the Met, was just at a loss why they'd prescribed that.
You very well may be right that sometimes it is just sheer bad luck where things go wrong just at the worst possible time! FXFXFXFX for better luck now!
Thanks for your reply and crossed fingers :) I’m trying to access the clinics that offer gender selection... is that still around?
Day 13 now... hoping for pink baby dust
Yes they still do IVF/PGD for gender! We have a big community of ladies who would love to help! http://genderdreaming.com/forum/high...-member-forum/Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoobie1124
I think I missed this, sorry!Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
The Clomid+alcohol is due to the fact that it may cause dizziness. Tons of people have had alcohol while on Clomid, just don't operate any heavy machinery if you do, LOL. It is only while you're taking it, not the rest of the time (although sometimes doctors will cluck their tongue since they don't want anyone drinking while TTC, of course - but just stop drinking after ovulation and it is fine.)
If you take the Clomid at night before bed you shouldn't have any nausea but yes it's fine to suck some hard candy if it helps.
Whatever kind of mixer with your alcohol you'd like. If you're ahving it between meals (and it is best to have alcohol with meals, but that is a rule many of us have bent or broken, myself included) you should have no sweetener or artificial sweetener. if you're having it with a meal it's fine to have a non-diet, sugary mixer with it.
Not a problem atomic I just skipped alcohol last night to see how the clomid went. I am a little blurry this morning but only up close stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I never drank alcohol before the sway so I’ve been having it with food to help absorb its effects, I really shouldn’t mix it with metformin either but I think that’s because they both drop blood sugar. I generally only have 1or2 and I’m fine. Quite enjoyed it.
Love the lol over operating heavy machinery!
My boys would love to see that...
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Should ask when do I start opk? CD4 now.
I have a stack of cheapies which were pretty much on par with the clear blue digi dual, picked up surge night before the early morning positive on the clear blue (as I was using fmu)
Think you said atomic that clomid may cause false positives on the clear blue because of the estrogen?
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Yes Met and alcohol are worse combo than Clomid and alcohol that's for sure but it's very rare and usually only in heavy drinkers that it can be a problem.
I would start OPK 3 days after your last dose of Clomid. You may want to have an attempt that day too just to cover you for the next couple days. It is highly unlikely, even impossible to O sooner than the 5th day after taking the Clomid. Yes the Clomid can cause false pos on the OPK, but this is gone by the 3rd day and even if it's not, by having attempt either way you're covered just in case the one in a billion chance that you O sooner more like the 4th day after Clomid (that has only happened once that I am aware and I wonder if the person who had that happen had skipped a day possibly)
Oh crap... so even though I wanted to do only one attempt this first month on it I should do bd 3 days after final tab (so CD10).Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
What happens then if I get +ve opk on day CD12?
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Just wondering why I can’t access the Clomid/femara info accessible for dream members through the app. It always sends me to a web browser where I have to then log in again, and then loose the page I’m on - I then have to search around trying to find this page...
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You don't have to have that attempt if you don't want to. It's fine to skip it, just that I feel like people get a lot of stress if they then get a positive OPK that day - is it real, is it a faker, they don't know what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by emshe
It's not super likely you'll get the pos OPK CD 12. What you can do instead is to plan to have the "just in case" attempt CD 12 instead. That way you'll be covered if you get positive that day, CD 13, and CD 14. Then attempt again CD 15 (for better odds of conception) or CD 16 (for better odds of pink.)
Or, don't do any of that and just wait till positive OPK! Totally your call to make.
Tapatalk (which we are not affiliated with) has released a couple really glitchy updates. We can't do much since it's on their end, other than wait for them to fix it. Several forums are having this issue. IF you can use a different browser on your phone and not the Tapatalk app it can help.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoJo1984
Or go to the Dream Members forum, click where it says Extreme Gender Swaying, and then they are posted in that forum.
Links for DM - EGS forum here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/extr...-swaying-egs-/
Clomid essays in DM section Here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/extr...bers-only.html and here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/extr...84-clomid.html
Food for thought, & I’m sure by now everyone around here knows my biggest weakness is DECISION making.... aghQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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