Atomic, she had her IUD in 2 months after she had her son, which was about 2.5 years ago.
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Atomic, she had her IUD in 2 months after she had her son, which was about 2.5 years ago.
This is so scary Im happy we did not use EW anymore! Do I know this lady is she from IG?
She is from IG, Flava. She was in the Blue Crew.
Foxy, did you hear back yet? Did she confirm that her infection was from the EW??
Hobbermittens, her doctor thinks it's from wiping back to front. It just don't make sense to me. I don't know if she asked her doctor about the EW. Forgot to ask her about that.
ETA - She never mentioned she used egg whites, but is seeing her doc the first week of April and is going to mention it to him then.
Oh Im sorry for her! Some one tell me who is she plz?
I don't know why the doc think it's from wiping ?Unless she told the doc she do that?but if not then I don't think so.
That still doesn't mean that it wasn't caused by the egg whites. It could have been living up in there for a long time and her body was keeping it in check, and then she got run down or the bacteria just built up such a population that it overwhelmed the body's defenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy
Thanks for this update! Honestly, even if is IS wiping wrong (which I'm sorry I find that completely ludicrous and even more so that the doctor suggested she had salmonella poisoning and just somehow missed it) that's even SCARIER to me because that means a TINY amount of salmonella can get up inside all the way from outside the VJ and into the uterus and cause problems - I mean people are shooting whole entire egg whites up inside to their cervix (at ovulation, right when the cervix is wide open) that they left AT ROOM TEMPERATURE for days!Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy
The FDA estimates that 142,000 people get salmonella in eggs every single year - that's a heck of a lot of eggs out there with salmonella in them and leaving them at room temp just means the bacteria can grow! It's like a big bacteria bomb right when your cervix is open, your pH is at its highest due to ovulation, and you're TTC so a baby may soon be on board. Other mammals are def. having miscarriages caused by salmonella and it does not seem like much of a stretch at ALL to think that could happen to humans.
My point is NOT necessarily that OMG we are all going to have this problem happen because I suspect it's a very rare chain of events that will never occur again. My point is that hey, we have undeniable evidence that salmonella CAN infect the human uterus, whether it was able to live in there for 3 years or got in there from cross contamination or whatever we know for a fact that it can live up inside there, so maybe it's time to stop the egg white business because the risks may just be too high!
There will never be any way to confirm it at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobbermittens
Not to belabor a point, but please understand that I'm not saying that this means that everyone who used egg whites is going to get some rampant infection months or years later, or even that Bobbi's infection was 100% for sure caused by EW because we will never know. I'm just highly concerned because we have hard evidence that salmonella can live inside the human uterus (no matter how it got there) in at least two cases one of whom is a person we actually KNOW. And since we also know that salmonella causes miscarriage in many mammals, maybe it's not the greatest idea ever to sway using unpasteurized egg whites, esp. after having left them at room temps for many days.
Old post I know but I used egg white and had a miscarriage
Thank you Strawbell! I like keeping these threads open and going indefinitely so we have the info all together rather than in dozens of threads.
I'm sorry for your loss. :(
I work in epidemiology and most cases of salmonella are not from eggs at all. Surprisingly, dirt is the most common culprit! Scary--that's why children get it more often, from crawling around on the ground then touching their mouths/eyes. And as crazy as it sounds wiping front to back is a very real way to spread disease into your urinary tract and repo tract. It could very well be the ew, although after 2.5 years I think it's unlikely. What a horrible and scary thing that happened to her, I hope she is fully recovered. ..
Thanks for the info!
Please understand, I'm not even saying that it was or wasn't the egg white (I also think it's somewhat unlikely after 2.5 years but you never know.) It's that this is proof that salmonella can 100% infect your uterus and has been known to cause miscarriage, so given this, it's best to avoid the egg whites since Preseed is more sanitary anyway.
Some of the sites have people leaving eggs on the kitchen countertop for weeks before using.
Yes, she's all better and up to her same old tricks LOL.
Oh I know I know:). I'm so happy she's better, that is really scary. Wouldn't eggs start to smell after a couple weeks on the counter?? lol:eek:
Apparently, they don't smell as long as they aren't cracked or old, and actually if they haven't been washed, they're allegedly safe for a while at room temp (eggs have a kind of coating on them that keeps bacteria from permeating the shell.) But most eggs people get have been washed, even farm eggs are usually washed, and the washing process can wash off this coating and also force bacteria through tiny pores on the shell. Then, the egg sits for a week "to raise pH" and the bacteria can grow.
I cringe every time I read something on that other site about incubating and then inserting egg whites. Certainly seems like warming them up would invite bacteria growth.
There's a big difference between pelvic inflammatory disease and a UTI. A PID can leave you sterile.
And with a UTI, they can do a culture and sensitivity to see if it's e coli (from wiping incorrectly) or salmonella (which is rarely found in UTIs) or some other bacteria.