Yes, that's exactly right, it's best not to take the multi-vitamin as high nutrients sway blue BUT you must take the folic acid! Just buy it separately and not bundled up in a multi-vitamin.
Yes, that's exactly right, it's best not to take the multi-vitamin as high nutrients sway blue BUT you must take the folic acid! Just buy it separately and not bundled up in a multi-vitamin.
Both of my boys were surprises, too. ;)
Those are very fascinating statistics!
Yes, I agree about not taking the prenatal but you should def. take folic whether it sways pink, blue or plaid. You can continue taking it throughout your attempt even if you do not fall pg this month.Quote:
Originally Posted by annabel♥lee
Please don't panic that you weren't taking it though, as long as you start taking it RIGHT NOW and maybe even take more like 800-1200 mg, that is fine. You do get some folic via fortified breads and pastas anyway.
:agree: Thank you Zana!Quote:
Originally Posted by zanacal
my fisrt 2 boys were both "suprises" and i was 19 when i got pregnant with my DS1 (but both times missed/late taking my pills,) but Ds3 was planned and changed my diet but out popped another boy lol!!
Hi and welcome boys boys boys!
Some of us are just blue-makin' mamas! ;) Takes us a little longer to join team pink but it will happen for all of us over time. Swaying is just a way to hopefully speed that process up so none of us have to "duggar it out." :)
Great statistic! I was actually wondering this the other day, and made up a list of people i know that had a DS first, and what their second one was (i specifically looked at those that had a DS first, and ONLY have 2 children)Quote:
For 2-Children Families
All Boys - the real number was 25.8% (25.0% Predicted)
Mixed genders - 52.2% Actual (50.0% Predicted)
All Girls 22.0% Actual (25.0% Predicted)
Out of the 10 people i personally know that had a DS first - 2 had another BOY as their second, whilst 8 had a Girl.
I take it with a grain of salt as i know that it doesn't definitely mean anything, but i like to boost my confidence with such numbers.
This is very interesting thread! Although I did have two suprise boys (both were pull-outs, and really, not to be TMI, but I really, really did not suspect FOUL PLAY at all in either case!) I think for us my boy friendly diet and moderate excerise won out on the possible low-ish sperm count from the pull-out.
Also, my sister's only girl concieved (she had 4 boys after) was an opps with the condom on their honeymoon!
I'm sorry I don't understand the breastfeeding part. 40% chance of a girl if you are still breastfeeding when the child is 12-24 months old? That means that it is a bigger chance of a boy? Or how do you mean? I know this thread is old but I'm really curious since I am still bf my 20 months old dd.Quote:
Originally Posted by purplepoet20
This is just speculation from one person's doctor based on his personal experiences. Please don't read too much into it - while it's def. interesting and I'd love to have more observations like that from everyone's OBGYNs, we don't know how accurate it really is and why...we'd need blind side by side studies to really know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
We've done tons of polls (not sure we ever did one on this site, but on IG we did several times) and people were all over the boards with BF and conception. I do think it sways pink because of biological reasons - lowers blood sugar and def. uses nutrients - but it's no magic bullet, that's for sure. Many BF have huge appetites and eat so much that they easily overcome any natural sway that BF offers and others find it impossible to lose weight while BF. Personally, my body has no qualms on shutting off breastmilk if I don't eat enough so I know for a fact that it's not always true that the nutrients go first to the breastmilk.
FWIW I conceived a boy while BF an 11 month old, and then a girl while BF a 23 month old!
Thank you for your answer! Im still a little bit curios about what they mean with the % though..You are 40% more likely to have a girl if you still bf when the baby is 1-2 yrs old? Or what they mean? You already have 50 % (ok 49%) of a girl and then if you bf 40% more chance? so 90% chance of a girl? haha I feel so stupid right now..Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
I believe he's saying that in HIS (limited and secondhand) experience 40% of people breastfeeding at 1-2 years old conceive girls while 60% conceive boys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiara
One thing to keep in mind (aside from the fact that this number is just one person's experience and speculation) is that most people don't breastfeed for 1-2 years. That in and of itself is something that can skew the numbers very, very much. Kellymom reports that only between 12-18% of women in the 2000's breastfed past 12 months, and I would suspect that they are a different demographic group than those women who either did not breastfeed or only bf for a short time. Might they be more disposed to conceive boys due to lifestyle factors?? (moms who do extended BF may tend to be a little more "crunchy", possibly eating a different sort of diet, and quite probably from different socioeconomic strata, because extended BF is a luxury that women who have to return to work early, don't have) May be pure coincidence and have nothing to do with BF.
In fact, I would even suspect that women who were able to get pg shortly after having a baby (the quoted 90% girls conceived soon after giving birth while BF) may not have been EBF and may have been supplementing with formula because most people who do BF a lot, can't conceive until at least 6 months.
All these things need to be corrected for which is why, while people's experience and observations are invaluable, no one should ever despair or read too much into any randomly quoted %. Even studies all too often do not correct for variables like that.
HI there, I was having a chat to two mums with 12 - 18 months between children (one with two girls the other 2 boys) and they were both BF exclusively. They were told that their cases were extremely rare (but then they both go to the same playgroup so how rare is rare?). However, just wanted to put this out there - as Atomic says MOST people can't conceive but some do!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Anyone know how were doing compared with the odds generally.
IE if 9% of moms go on to have four boys are these odds any lower from gender swaying or do i just increase my chances i won't be in the 9%. It does seems out of the moms in the position that i am in those who go on to have another child after three boys most of them get their girl however there are quite regularly the odd one that doesn't. Are we beating the odds at all as a group of just following them (1 out of 10 people still get a fourth boy regardless of how great their sway is). Is there any info on the percentage of sways etc that succeed
In the studies that have been done on diet, they DO correct for those things to some extent. Some studies on diet report 85% success rates from diet alone (I'm not totally sure that this is completely accurate, but it's DEF. better than the statistics as the population as a whole report.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs_P
Here is the link with our stats.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...k-version.html
Just to update, the stats seem to be holding fairly steady at about 2/3 success, 1/3 opposites for girls (keeping in mind we include ALL sways and do not eliminate any). We've had a ton of success with HE Diet for boys and tho I don't have the numbers in front of me right now I would guess it's at least 80% - which is good for pink swayers to be aware of as well. Some of the blue sways that didn't work out were people who had been doing IG Diet or avoiding calcium for a long time before switching to HE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs_P
I really hope I fall into the 73% of mixed families and get my girl! My husband seems to think the third is more likely to be a girl than a boy because families are more likely to be mixed than not. I say it's still the same chance its a boy.
Rosie i definitely agree with your DH out of 5 or 6 of us with two boys when i had ds3 within a month of each other we all had a third and i was the only one who got a 3rd boy, every one else got their girl so the odds are in your favour anyway
There's still the same chance it's a boy but at the same time, if someone was tossing a coin and it came up heads twice, at some point it's gonna come up tails.
Here is to hoping it lands tails! haha
I was a teen parent and had a boy. My second boy was a surprise too.
But with so many people gender selecting, using IVF, swaying, etc, can any numbers be accurate? Because going to the Super market and seeing a family of two girls, two boys, a boy and a girl, who's to say they didn't sway for that?
agreed and these numbers are dating from before HT methods to sway gender. That really hasn't been around very long. The studies that are done on gender ratio and families are generally done with older data (which can be problematic in and of itself)
I met a lady recently who had two daughters and was pg with twin boys and I was just DYING to ask her! ;)
My friend has two girls and has just given birth to twin boys!! JEALOUS doesn't cover it ...
So I asked her " how did you do it ?" She say " I'll ask hubby " Yeah ok nah not getting to that debate again!! People are still convinced that the man determines the gender .
They look at me like a loon when I try and explain! Pfff I give up
[QUOTE=atomic sagebrush;4255]4-Children Families
All Boys 9.1% Actual (6.3% Predicted)
Mixed 85.4% A (87.4% P)
All Girls 5.5% Actual (6.3% Predicted)
Four boys are more common than four girls by a whopping 4%!!
[QUOTE]
So, my odds of having a DD are higher this time, but that 9% is really daunting! :eek:
NC, those numbers don't mean that YOU personally have any better or worse odds of having a boy or a girl, it's that across the population as a whole, it's 4% more common. That's all. You personally may have had an 80% chance at a girl...those numbers are really impossible to extrapolate to individuals.
I must say.... I know plenty of people that have only 2 boys or 2 girls but I'm the only one I know that has 3 of 1 gender! I sure do get plenty of comments from people at the store saying "wow all girls" I love it. Also, just thought I'd add my grandmother had 3 girls then a boy and her mother had 4 girls then a boy. Family thing maybe? Lol who knows?
The data does not support the idea that gender runs in families - at least not in a genetically heritable way. Now, families do often tend to have similar lifestyles...
That's good to know!
Amazing! So I am statistically more likely to get a girl next time. Still too scared to try naturally at this stage!
Finally found this thread! Yay!!!
No hun, that's not what those numbers mean. It means across the entire population that is what the statistical average is. It says NOTHING about what your personal chances of a girl would be. You may be more likely to have a girl or you may be more likely to have a boy. You can't extrapolate those numbers t you as an individual.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1+2+3boys
I am not a mathematician but I do believe that the probability of having a girl can be determined based on those statistics? Maybe that is what 1+2+3 boys meant?
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No, they can't be determined by those numbers, because some of those people may have (just pulling numbers out of thin air) 100% chance of a girl, some may have 0% chance of a girl. Across the entire population, it's just the general average but it doesn't mean that everyone has the same odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2boysJustOneGirl
That's true, there are too many variables to consider.
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I have been told several times that since I have two girls my chances of having another girl is very high and I most likely will have a third girl. I don't know how many people have told me my third WILL be a girl. I have even had psychics tell me this. SO reading this am I more likely to have a boy then a girl or am I reading this wrong?
Yes M, according to research the odds of having a boy go UP over time and that is at least in part because there is ALWAYS a slightly higher chance of a boy than a girl. Depending on the country you live in, there are anywhere from 102-107 boys conceived for every 100 girls. (average about 51/52%/48/49%)
So in order to have girl after girl, you have to in essence "beat the odds" (even if only just a little) several times in a row.
I think I am starting to understand. I know these stats do not really mean anything for someone personally but I think people still like to know 'their' chances. If you put 10 pregnant women in a room who all have two boys then most should have a girl next but it is impossible to tell tell which one(s). That probably still is not right either, never mind lol. I am just starting to think about swaying again instead of HT and I like to think my chances of a girl this time are higher since my boys were conceived when my life was a natural big boy sway and now it is in the middle but I plan to tilt the odds more and that the girl sways on this forum are in the 70%s. I know it is impossible to come up with your personal percentage chance at the other gender though. I like the heads and tails comment. A tail has to come up sooner or later!Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
So in my close family i am the only one with all of the same gender. My mother had GBGG, my sisters and brother had mixed genders. (oldest sis, BGB, brother, BGGB and my other sis BBGGB). My paternal grandparents had 3 boys, maternal grandparents had BGB.I am my fathers only child- a girl. Now his brother also had one child-a girl. Now my MIL also had 3 boys, and my BIL and his wife have 2 children-GB. I can't help that feel as though my all of the same genders are hereditary. I look at these statistics and think tails surely has to come up next doesn't it? lol...
Look at the overall success rates for this site with swaying and NOT the general population.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1+2+3boys
Gender ratio is NOT a coin flip. It is happening for biological reasons and so you have to put the idea of coin flips to the back of your mind. I just cringe when I see anyone assume because they have 2,3,4 boys already, that they're somehow guaranteed a girl next. You could be one of these people The Arndt Family and there are also people with many daughters as well. So if you put several of those families in a room, and average that out, you could easily get 50-50 odds or nearly so but it is obvious a family with 14 kids and only one of them a girl does NOT have 50-50 odds at girls and boys, you know?? The results of the population say NOTHING about what you the individuals chances are.