I like eggs, they just don’t settle with me that well :( okay perfect. I can do that. Thank you. Cycle day 5 so we will see what happens.
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I like eggs, they just don’t settle with me that well :( okay perfect. I can do that. Thank you. Cycle day 5 so we will see what happens.
Atomic. I just need some reassurance and verification lol.
So I’m going to start testing prob around cycle day 11-12 or so. Text after lunch once a day. As I get closer maybe twice (I haven’t been doing that) and then when I have the first positive opk, bd at that time (even if it’s that night after getting the opk pos around lunch). DH can abstain for 7-10 days and one unprotected attempt at opk pos. No need to do a cut off (I need to try to get that out of my head lol)
I think you need to start before the earliest you can possibly O. So I'd start more like CD 10 or even more like CD 8 to be sure you start with a negative test for sure.
But other than that, that sounds great to me!
Okay will do!! Do you think it’s possible to get a true positive on CD 11 with a 28 day cycle? With no other symptoms? I’ve never gotten a positive that early but it’s been a darker negative. Just curious.
Yes absolutely. We have people sometimes tkaing 72 hours after first positive when they're testing regularly. Within the wheelhouse for sure.
Okay good to know! But ah I hope not ha. That would definitely mess up my pervious tests and what I thought I knew ha. But I will see. We had a cut off last time Due to schedules and ovulating a little late, so I want to try to be able to be at that positive opk. Having him abstain still. And then trying not to use any lubricant. I think that also hindered things.
Just because it happens this month, doesn't mean it happened in the past. You ahve all different times to ovulation after the first positive OPK. There's no set consistency from month to month.
Sounds great! Keep me posted!
Do you recommend testing twice a day for OPK? In the afternoon and night? Or Is that not really necessary.
For sure test with OPK after lunch (around 1 pm). If you want, you can add in another test prior to dinner (not at night but like 5ish) to guard against your pee being too diluted at lunchtime. But I'd only do that at times of month I felt it was likely to have a positive!
Okay thank you!! We DTD last night and I just knew it would be positive today and I had the kids so I didn’t think I would be able to get away. It was positive about 5:30. So “assuming” Ovulation is 24 hours away i guess it would be a two day cut off. One other protected BD about 6 days prior. (That was the only thing that worries me) but I’m good. Tomorrow “ovulation day” would have been my grandmothers 90th birthday and I have always loved the name Elizabeth so we shall see!
protected BD doesn't matter. Good luck and pink dust headed your way!
Hello Atomic, looking for some advice from you. This is my baby #2, trying to do a girl sway. Planning for TTC in three weeks and started doing the below :
1. Daily Cal and Mag supplements + 2 glasses of milk
2. Tested PH last cycle : 3 days before O = 4.5 - 5, 12 hours after O = 4 - 4.5. (Used PH testing strips). This makes me believe in TTC on O+12 rather than Shettles even though I believed in Shettles a lot earlier.
3. Planning to follow girl diet next three weeks but figure since my PH is kinda optimal, wondering if I follow it to a T.
4.What should I Douche with for O+12 ? This is my biggest concern. My PH is already optimal but what if its not in this cycle? How cna I decide )+12 vs Shettles? DH semen PH is > 7.
5. Anything else I should be following?
Any help would be appreciated!! Desperately trying for a girl this month, and even followed the chinese calendar that says I will have one this month.
Thank you!! Ah I’m hopeful. Feeling good. But of course we will see :). I kept testing. Idk if I should do that or not but I had a positive at CD 15 (5:30) and then I tested again and had another positive at CD 16 (2pm). In my Premom app it said cd 16 was peak. (The numbers were .2 off from each other). Today I tested again CD 17 (2pm) and stone cold negative which I knew it would be, but just for clarity. CD 16 night I didn’t test again but curious if it could have been going down then because of cramps that I was having like ovulation pains. Who knows! But we will see.
By dropping fiber (and who knows what else changed) I was four days earlier with ovulation so that’s good. My LP should be longer this time. So we will find out in the next two weeks or so. Thanks for your help and we will see what happens.
I will answer this in one of the other threads you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinkpink24
The apps like Premom are not that helpful so please don't take it too seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamingofBoth
Great that you Oed sooner!! FXFXFX and keep me posted!
Well I am out again this month. I know it takes a while for healthy couples so I’m sure swaying only adds to that. Spotting yesterday and my cervix is very low so I expect to see AF today. I had a couple of cheat days during the TWW, I was so sure it would happen this month. Felt good about it. But need to move on to the next try. What would you suggest trying this time? I’m wondering if we should do the same thing again? 1BD at OPK POS. This would be month three trying But the first month ended up being more of a cutoff Due to schedules and ovulating late. ( I got preg the third month with my first; first time with my second). November is also the month that I’ve gotten pregnant with both boys lol. (Both August babies). Also we did have a protected bd about 6 days prior and then the one attempt and then waited a few days and then protected again. So only one Unprotected bd the whole cycle. No lube this past time. I laid down afterward for a little bit. Didn’t get up immediately. So I guess maybe We should do the same thing? Thanks.
It's your call to make if you want to continue with one attempt or go to e4d. Totally up to you and depends on your priority about what you want to do. If you're ready to boost odds of conception we can do that, if you want to give it another month on one attempt that's totally fine too. All about the timeline that you feel comfy with.
Well i would definitely like to boost the odds of conception, but I guess at the same time it makes me a little nervous. I get the best chance of a girl it to actually get pregnant lol. Ugh I was so hoping it would happen this month! Lol. I was so sure. Anyway. So every 4 days, is every four days from the end of AF. This is probably a stupid question, but for example Let’s just say it ends on Sunday. So start Monday, Friday, Tuesday, Saturday, Wednesday.. and so on through ovulation? And the “big o” question, I guess it doesn’t matter? I haven’t had one during the one attempt at pos opk, but I guess we don’t know of that really sways or not.
Yes, start attempt the day after AF ends (or sooner if that's your preference, there's no magic to that part of it just whenever you want to start, as long as you're in with a couple attempts prior to the fertile window)
You can do the e4d in the "every 72 hour" (better odds of conception) or "every 96 hour" (possibly better chance of pink) pattern. So Mon/Thurs or Mon/Fri depending on your preference. (if you can't decide, don't agonize over it, just flip a coin and do what the coin tells you to do)
Then continue on with that even after you think you ovulated. We are trying to guard against both early and late O by doing this technique and stopping too soon is the #1 thing people do wrong. They assume O happened, stop having sex, and end up missing the entire month!
The truth is we don't know about the Big O. Many of us, myself included, had one when we got our girls. Theoretically it's supposed to sway blue but it's far from proven. I have a funny, very much NSFW thread on it here: https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gen...tml#post378932
Okay thank you! It’s definitely nerve racking. I didn’t think it would take long and then the stress of that doesn’t help lol. And now the pressure is on for an August baby lol. So I have to suppress that. I want to get pregnant but I also want that possibility for a swat as well. What about positive opk and then four days after that as well? I know you said e4d is getting the early and late ovulation, it just worries me with the closeness of the two on the fertile window.
positive OPK and then every 4 days after that may not help boost your chances of conception, though. One of the positives of the e4d is that it introduces an element of chance that attempting at positive OPK does not. What if DTD at positive OPK, even though statistically it's been a good chance of conception, is NOT a good chance for you personally (or at the least, isn't this month?) People could go on and on having sex on a bad day for them to conceive! Some people don't O till as long as 72 hours after that first pos OPK. So by randomizing somewhat when that attempt falls with the e4d, not only are we guarding against the early and late O, we're also guarding against the notion that positive OPK may not be the best time for some people to conceive.
Plus, even with the "every 72" let alone the 96 hour pattern, it is NOT close together in the fertile window. Earlier in the cycle you're much less fertile, and sperm simply do not survive very long. So if a person had O-5, O-2, and O+1 attempts, that is still just one attempt in the fertile window because the O-5 is too early and the O+1 is too late. If a person had O-4, O-1, and O+2 attempts, only the O-1 is viable. Even in the worst case scenario of O-3 and O Day, it is STILL one attempt because if anything from the O-3 was left, it would already have fertilized the egg before the O Day shot could capacitate and make it to the egg. And if there wasn't, then the O Day attempt would have a chance.
It's totally your call to make, if you want to start off with pos OPK then go to every 4 after that, it's fine, I just want you to understand how it actually works before you make a decision. :)
Okay that makes perfect sense! Thank you very much for explaining that to me so that could understand. Thank you!! I think i will go with that. I do get that it can take healthy couples many months to conceive but I didn’t think that would be a prob seeing as we already have two without too much trouble. But I would like to increase the chance of conception. I am still much smaller than I was when I got pregnant with my second and a little smaller than with the first. I think that will help some with the stress to. I guess my concern is that my second was conceived with two BDs that were 72 hours apart. Although I wasn’t doing the diet like I should have and I was at my heaviest since I didn’t lose all my baby weight (and supplements). And I also get nothing is 100%. I assume you see pretty good success with every four days (72hours) And nothing else besides the LE diet.
The e4d is newer and so has a smaller sample size, but as it is right now it actually has somewhat better results (this will likely go down over time as more people start using the method, including people who aren't doing anything else to sway...there are lots of things that factor into our success rates so it's not always as cut and dry as just comparing them). The one attempt has a much larger sample size, but that includes a lot of people who did nothing else to sway (not even diet) and so I think the results are skewed to be lower than they "should" be.
Long story short I have more faith with one attempt but think that in the long run they're both going to work.
Ugh so nerve racking. One side of me just wants to be like ugh whatever, ha I want another baby no matter what of course as long as it’s healthy. Ive done so much to “help” and then the other part of me is saying that I need to do everything I can. Which I know that doesn’t help either.
Then I think my first attempt was a long shot with a long cut off because schedules and late ovulation. Then my second attempt I guess ended with I assume was a three day cut off Idk. I had two days of positive tests (bd day before first pos) So then I think, Maybe try one month right at opk pos since I haven’t truly done it on that exact day yet. But then I’m ready for another little one. Lol.
And other thoughts.
So what are you thoughts on abstaining. That could make it hard to conceive right? so we can dtd with protection and still have the one attempt at OPK POS. Would that help boosts odds? Still diet (keeping Weight Stable) and No lubes. No jump and dump.
I’m sorry :/
The more you debate about it internally the more wound up and "control freaky" you feel about it. I would just pick something, even if you have to flip a coin to do it, and go with it. The endless obsessing over things that probably don't even make any difference is not beneficial.
Abstain doesn't work and cuts odds of conception by a lot. Dropping abstain but still having one UNprotected attempt this month is def. another option.
I assume you mean one unprotected:) but yes you are right. I have issues. Lol. I feel as though I’ve done somewhat of a cutoff the past two months so I need to go closer to peak and possible ovulation. We will see what happens. Will not abstain or anything else that may cut odds. Thank you for your help. Here’s to this month :)
Yes, I did LOL. Sorry. Good luck and pink dust headed your way!
Probably a stupid question but just to verify, Protected BDs at any point of the cycle, are they okay? It’s just the one attempt that’s unprotected at opk positive that matters. Is that right lol? And the big o doesn’t really seem to matter on those protected times?
yes!!!
The Big O thing probably doesn't matter at all anyway. Some people seem to think avoiding them all the time helps, but we have done tons of polls and posts about them and no strong trend really jumps out at me. The couples with more boys are more sexual overall but that does not equate to female O swaying blue. Plus, it helps keep you and hubby happy to continue that. I would not worry about it at all. I had one when I got my girl!
Haha thank you. And just for more verification, position does not matter either correct LOL I know what you are going to say. But I just want to verify LOL.
My husband just found out that he has to have surgery next Friday the 13th so we are praying that everything goes OK. Of course the stress of that does not help LOL. Although I’m hoping to ovulate next Friday and maybe have peak on Thursday At the latest for our one attempt but I guess we’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully it’ll take this time since he might be down for a little bit.
yep, doesn't matter. We've had people do all sorts of positions for girls and for boys and they don't seem to sway by much at all.
So I’m expecting to get my opk positive tomorrow around 1ish when I typically test based on pervious months and how my tests are today. Is it okay to wait to dtd tomorrow night?
Yes it's fine to wait till the night after the pos OPK!
Well out again this month..... I know it can take time, but at the same time I didn’t think it would take long to get pregnant. It definitely gets frustrating month after month. So I guess the next step would be to do every four days? Monday/Thursday type of deal (depending on when AF ends).
Yes. After your period ends have unprotected sex every 72 hours (not to the specific hour but tha'ts how I want you to count the days). Keep going with this till you're sure you've ovulated even if it means going all the way thru till your next period begins.
How long are you laying down after intercourse?
Are you doing female O?
Okay thanks.
I’m laying down for a good 10 mins.
No female O. I’m wondering if I should though. For my second I did a kind of every four days and I did not one time and then three days later. (It was a little closer than 72 hours) but i think I had already ovulated by that time.
Ok. Be sure to spend at least part of that 10 minutes on your tummy not just your back and we may want to extend that over the course of time.
Yes let's go ahead and add in female O. It can help boost chances of conception and we have no evidence that it affects a sway in any way. We start off without female O just for the sake of the "old school" sway tactics but truly, there's no data that shows it sways at all. We've done tons of polls and threads on this issue and while there's a trend that couples with all boys are on average more sexual than those with all girls, there are plenty of pink mamas who have Big O all the time and some blue mamas who don't.
Okay thank you. Ugh this is so frustrating! Lol. Thank you for your help.
So I just got a faint positive. I’ve never got one like this after so many negatives. And so faint. Currently Cycle day 31. Peak opk on day 15.
We have had a rash of false positives on pregnancy tests this last few months - they're very light, but positive, and then hang around several days but never get any darker. And some of the people getting them even had blood tests that were negative. So keeping fingers crossed but do be aware we've had several cases of false positives of late.