Peony - it looks like you have 2 little boys very close in age too! Mine were 15.5 months apart, and are little balls of energy!! ;)
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Peony - it looks like you have 2 little boys very close in age too! Mine were 15.5 months apart, and are little balls of energy!! ;)
Mine are 22.5 months apart. I thought that was a handful! The most competitive children you can have is 2 boys who are less than 2 years apart. Mine certainly live up to that.
And about the 2WW, I always stopped the diet in the 2WW last year as I was not TTC every month. I have not stopped it this time as I am TTC in Jan and Feb. However, my diet is not as full on as the LE diet, so it is easier to stick to. My naturopath told me it was fine to only be on the diet for 2 weeks leading up to your attempt, as if the diet is really different to what you normally do, it will work that fast on your body. You should just always do what you can live with and have no regrets about later on.
Yep - I have to agree with that! I have identical twin boys who've been fighting since they were in the womb!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeonyPrincess
It's fine to give yourself some cheat days on the diet, but make sure to try your best to maintain low blood sugar in the 2WW since that's when it's most important - so that means no snacking between meals. What I always did is give myself a big cheat day the day af arrived - it helped lessen the blow somehow, especially as I'd just spend 2 weeks dreaming of all the things I could eat when I got my BFP.
:wave: Hi, ladies! Well, I am skipping Feb because of the whole thing that happened with the clomid but I will still be hanging out with you all cheering you along and the trying again I hope in March!
Sorry, Katie, about AF. Pink, did you get yours too? I feel mine coming on soon.
Who here is doing vitex and/or saw pamento? How about of the clomid users? I know you can't use it the same months but I think you can use it up until the af before. I need to go read more about them...
Amari - understand you wanting to wait.. I'm taking vitex
Hi Amari. I hope your poor tummy has settled. That did not sound like fun at all. I take vitex but none of the other stuff so am not much help with the dos and don'ts. Take care of that tiny body of yours!
Hi guys...I'm joining this thread now. I haven't read through it yet to see who all is here but chances are that I know many of you.
I should be Oing around Feb 23rd(ish) so it'll be the same time as many of you it looks like! I'm still waiting on AF to show up but w/3 days-worth of BFNs and today's temp drop, I'm definitely out. Katie, Pinkin and Amari, I sooooo feel your frustration and disappointment...:HH:
:wave: to the rest of you!
Looks like there's a lot of late February attempts. I'll be following all of you to see how they go. Hopefully lots of BFPs. :)
Pink, it doesn't matter when you attempt, I'm going to stalk you like it's my job. haha
Jazzers, did you figure out if you O'd? Did you have an attempt?
Amari, have you tested again or is AF here?
hi all ive got some serious cramps today 3-4 dpo but it cant be anything as we didnt attempt lol, so i dont know whats going on !!! cant wait for my first attempt in feb, im soooooooooo excited !!!!
Oh my, you ladies are so chatty it is hard to keep up, but I will try.
Jazzers: Welcome! Yes it is possible to miss your surge over night, but if you checked the night before and the morning after you would have noticed some changes. You should definitely switch to Clear Blue smiley face -- they check for the increase in your lh so as long as you are testing at least once a day it is nearly impossible to miss your surge. It will detect elevation from the following day, where as with the lines its ify and you never really know.
Katie- So sorry for your bfn. Much luck in the future.
LittleMiss- You're attempt sounds great! That is my ideal attempt -- abstain and one time bd on o day. The only problem is that the diet is killing me and I wanna get pg this month so bad, so I feel like I can't just leave it up to one attempt and hope for the best. Good luck to you!
Peony- Your post was funny - I never have had much of a libido at all and I have all boys...go figure. In my experience I am not sure that libido has much to do with it. Never had a Big O with any of my boys. ???
Hope&Dream - I would do all 4 attempts: day before, day of, 24 hours after and 36 hours after. If you only want to do 3 attempts then I would stick to the 24 hours after because then you will know you definitely caught the egg. I was doing IVF so they always scheduled my retrieval for exactly 36 hours after I gave myself the shot. My sis-in-law just did IUI and she o'ed exactly 36 hours after the shot as well (it was monitored by ultrasound).
I went out to dinner last night with my dh for our anniversary. Cheated a little but not much. I have been on this diet so strict w/ no cheats for 6 weeks, and it is 3 1/2 weeks before my attempt so I figured if I was going to treat myself now is the time to do it before I get my af. I had a vegetarian veggie soup and a vegetarian entree w/ eggplant, pumpkin, spinach & rice....oh, and a glass of red wine! So at least no meat but probably more sodium and calories than I should have for the day, though not much.
I have decided to change my plan for the month. I was reading so many people's attempts - boys and girls - and noticed that there is no pattern at all. Boy moms dtd once or many times on different days; and girl moms dtd once, or many times on all different day. I don't think how much or when you do it matters at all. I think it is really all up to diet and the maternal condition at the time of conception that will determine whether your body will allow female or males to penetrate the egg. If your like many in the middle and just fine then its 50/50, if your more nutrient nurished then you'll sway more boys and more nutrient deprived will sway more girl.
So, I had a talk with dh last night and told him that we are changing from abstaining to fr b/c we need to do multiple attempts to ensure getting pg and he needs to help me out cause I am not doing it all on my own. He is not one to take care of himself. We will bd on o-3, o-2, o-1 & o using his 2nd batch of the day after having him fr for 10 days before 1st attempt. He will release 1xday up to 3 days before attempts and then start 2x day for 3 days before and through attempts. I'll use rephresh every 3 days and a touch every am on morning when I am not due for a full app. Bd with sylk each time.
Do you think I should jump and dump on o-1 and o day? Maybe just wait 5 minutes?? Do you guys think this sway girl good? I feel like I am doing the diet so strict and even doing a mini fast o week -- I have to get a girl. My original plan was the bd once, so this is a big change for me mentally.
Anyway, sorry for such a long post, I just wanted to bounce my new plan off you girls and get some feedback.
:Hugs: to all the BFNers
Hope this Feb cycle is much better!
Rainbow & Surgena, MG & I are counting on you to join us in the Sept/Oct/Nov due date buddies group with Oct. bundles!!
Hope lots more of ya'll join us in the Nov portion of the group!!!!
I haven't gotten af yet, still waiting.
Pforprincess- sounds good, I wonder if you should do quite so much to reduce sperm though w/ so much releasing, rephresh, sylk j&d if you want to get pg fast? Maybe cut back on some of it?
Did I miss something? Surgena got a bfp? Let me go look...
Hi Girls, Sorry to everyone who got af or is waiting for af ..The worst is waiting when you know its def coming my cycle was 35 days this time it is usually 31, I have a feeling this will happen every time i attempt because i get myself so stressed ( i know its not a good thing) But next time around i am going to have to try and release d/h a few times before dtd.. How bad does that sound??
OOTB, sorry you got a BFN. This girl swaying is hard work. I had such a good feeling about 2012. I guess there are plenty of months remaining though.
Prayforprincess, I like your thinking about timing not being important. However, what you are planning sounds very similar to what pinkin tried in January. I wonder if the FR and the rephresh and the J&D together are all too much to end up pg?? I am not sure of your age, but she is only in her 20s and got pg easily with DS1, so it made me wonder if it was too much for the sperms to deal with.
Amari~ You can take the vitex and saw palmetto straight through starting now until CD1 of March. You can't take at the same time as clomid. I've been on since Mid December CD 1 of February I will stop and my clomid begins! Hope your feeling better.
Suregena~ came to see about your testing? How'd it go?
OOTB~ sorry about BFN, you are among a few of us who will all O the week of Feb 20th!
Prayforprincess~ you had the same thought process as I did. I also was set at first on a one time attempt, and timing. I have totally changed that plan, to mutilple attempts. I agree I will do 4 attempts: day before, day of, and 2 days after the injection. I'd like to hear about your experience with IVF, I was starting to give it some thought.
Jazzers~ I would also use the clearblue digitals (with the smiley) it will pick up an increase you can't miss it overnight that way.
Again, pretty much SAME experience!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeonyPrincess
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Originally Posted by auroara78
Believe me, I want to join you there! Because if I don't get pregnant (if I'm not currently) by February, I'll have to take a break for a bit! :(
(Because we're flying to the US for Christmas this year... I either have to have had a baby older than 6 weeks by the time we do, or I have to be under 36 weeks pregnant. Timing is everything, eh?)
Oh, it was BFN this morning, but I expected that!
I could only be 9dpo or 10dpo at the latest today.
But we were having a date day so I went ahead and aimed for today as the test day. My husband doesn't want me to test anymore until my AF is due... but... how... do... I.... NOT?!?!?
Prayforprincess, I am not sure if I would use that much Rephresh myself because I must admit last year I had a play around with it a few times and didnt fall preg.. In january I had my real attempt I used it the day before first attempt and then used it again 12 hrs before second. I dont think I would even use a finger full of it before my attempts next time. I will just aim to try and make it my last full app 2 days before o.. I plan to dtd on o day this time. If you use the rephresh right through then i think maybe dont do a Jump and dump ( or wait 5 mins or so) but if you dont use it for every Bd the def jump and dump.. Its just so hard to fall preg as it is I am really down at the moment alot due to i didnt get preg and that i have to do it all again! I hope rainbowflower reads this and chimes in about what she thinks to do with the Rephresh?
Pinkin, I am not surprised knowing you have to do it again is making you feel down. You and DH did so much in December and January. But it sounds like you are already making a few adjustments so that your sway will be even better. And March seems like a long way away, but with your busy February, it will be here before you know it.
Thanks Peony, I think as I said under stress makes you do things that you were not going to do.. Anyway in march I am going to take it easy and try and relax about it and try not to miss that EGG!!! Oh and keep the little wigglies alive!!:pinksperm: I only have one child so we dont have much time to muck around.. D/s is nearly 3 and a half and keeps asking for a baby!! I dont want them to grow up with too much of an age gap that they dont play together I am not even sure if they would play together with a 4 or over gap anyway!! thats what gets me down why have i left it so long to ttc , Now its just a rush If you get what i mean
A long time ago I read that if there is a 6 year age gap the children can feel like an only child. I don't know how true that is, but I am sure you have not left it too long. It is a great sign that your boy is excited at the prospect of a sibling. My DS1 can't remember a time when it was just him, so it has taken him a very long time to think having another one would be a good idea. My DS2 is baby obsessed and asks me when he will be able to have a baby in his tummy?!
Aww how cute is he! Yeah i know what you mean about the 6 year gap thing . A lady I know had 6years between the first and second and then 2 years between second and third , she said the oldest boy never has and still doesnt have much to do with the last two which i think is sad. I Really need to get preg asap i dont want more then a 4.5 yr gap but you cant control these things hey, If only!
Surgena - fingers crossed for that BFP!! I don't know how you could possibly hold off...I have terrible POAS syndrome myself :)
Peony - that is too funny! My son's friend (he's 3) at daycare came up to his mom and I and said "Mommy, when can *I* have a baby in my tummy?". Of course his mom said "oh sweetie, boys can't have babies in their tummies". The little guy turns around all mad and says "Mommy, that is NOT very nice to say I can't have a baby in my tummy. That hurts my feelings". LOL!! Kids are too cute!
Ok, I totally fell off the wagon this evening! I went for a run this morning, followed by a long walk with a friend, and hadn't eaten much all day until the hunger just hit around 4pm!! I was out working, and we still had nothing for dinner, and that little gremlin in my head kept saying "well, you probably O'd yesterday, so if the sperm met the egg, it's all said and done anyways so what does it really matter....". LOL! So I went out and bought a huge pizza for dinner and ate 1/3 of it myself!!! The funnier part is, I totally had dreams about what I would do when I could finally let loose again, and all the things I would eat and enjoy....but the reality is, ALL I could eat were the 3 big slices of pizza, and then I was SO stuffed, I had to go to bed and lay down! A couple months ago, I could have eaten that whole pizza by myself, plus chocolate cake for dessert and a bowl of popcorn while watching a movie later that night! UGH! Ahahahahaa, so sad!! Back on the wagon tomorrow....
Don't get too stressed out over it (though I can understand the feeling of wanting control over it, my son is 2). There is a 5 year difference between me and my younger brother, but we have always been really close and played together quite well. It might be different for an older brother/younger sister combo? It was a little odd at 16 and 11...but that age always is! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pinkin2011
If I get Preg in march or april bub will be due dec or jan.. D/s is 4 september 30th so that age gap is alot but not too bad i dont want anymore then that.. I am thinking if i dont get a bfp by april I am just going to dtd all over o, start middle and end to maybe up my chances.. Yeah its very stressful, Life just got so busy and before i knew it d/s was 3!! I bet you can all understand that!
I can totally understand life getting busy. The only reason we have 2 children fairly close together is because DS2 was a complete surprise. DH and I literally looked at each other when I found out and said "Did we even BD together?!" Fortunately DS2 looks just like DH. lol. It must have happened when we hosted a great Easter party, but neither of us can recall!! If that hadn't happened I am 100% certain I would be in the same boat as you.
Yeah its pressure on me because d/h has been saying for a year lets ttc and i have been putting it off sort of but for no real reason just so busy. Now its a rush i guess i have 2 more months to sway TBH if i dont get preg in those 2 months the swaying has to stop , my d/h doesnt believe in swaying and i am doing it sort of without him knowing.. Naughty me. My attempt in Jan though he knew about and released everyday for 21 days he did so well but just cant do that every month couldnt even do it for 10 days .... He just wants another child so bad and also he is not happy that we have left it so long he feels the pressure too.
Couldn't help myself! Another BFN this morning. However it still could be early. I should have O'd the 18th but don't think I did, so AF tomorrow seems unlikely. It could really be anytime this week... who knows! I've had steady daily cramping throughout this 2ww however I'm going to run on the assumption to keep expecting AF for now. If I am not pregnant this cycle, it will be the first time I wasn't pregnant first month trying which could be viewed in a positive way that I've changed up some things in both our fertility. As odd as that is but what you want for ttc a girl! Still, would be nice if I was but if not, hope I can be next month and will also give me a chance to be really good and solid on the diet as with birthdays, guests, and holidays, it was a tough one that I definitely fell off the wagon many times during!
Suregena~ Sorry about the BFN... I had a BFN in November and it was the first time every. DS1 first attempt, DS2 oopsie, angle baby- surprise!! So I know how you feel I was pretty confident it would happen first shot- but on the upside maybe what we are doing is working!!
My 2 boys are 16 months apart-never would have planned it that way, but it is the BEST thing ever. I often think this next baby would be better off a girl (not only bc I am dying for a girl) but bc if it was a boy he'd feel left out of their relationship. A girl would be special in her own way. However, I also have seen sibs 12 years apart with the greatest relationships. I think its all about the dynamic of the relationship/their personalities etc. not their ages!
:cheerteam: AND lets go FEBRUARY!!!!!
I believe if I had used Rephresh for my Dec. cycle that I wouldn't have gotten pregnant.
I know there are many swayers who have used Rephresh and did get pregnant, but I felt like for *me* it was akin to birth control! I just don't think my husband's swimmers could have navigated through it. Plus, I'm not old by any means, but I'll be 34 in April, and I knew my own fertility was just not at the peak like it used to be, so that was a consideration for me too.
I still think swaying pink is so hard because of the impact to your fertility you do want to make, but too much won't get you preggers. I still really believe even if my husband and I DID want to keep DTD'ing until we got a BFP (we were previously going to take a break until April), that if I had kept using Rephresh it might have taken UNTIL April or later to concieve.
So it's a real deeply personal choice and decision how much to put into the sway vs. wanting to get pregnant in a certain time-table. For me, getting pregnant in a certain time-table trumped wanting a "perfect sway."
I couldn't have said it better myself, auroara. I decided to drop parts of the sway too since last summer it took me 4 months to get pregnant, and I only got that BFP after I dropped the rephresh. I wasn't willing to wait 4 months or longer this time. Some women are super fertile and can get pregnant on the first try with a full sway (like our beloved zanacal), but I think women like that are few and far between.Quote:
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If I am indeed not pregnant, I think I'll stick with the antihistamine and drop the repHresh. We'll see.
I am definitely dropping RepHresh in Feb. The Sylk will stay (b/c I need it down there now...TMI :oops: ) No more FR for DH either! This will be our 3rd attempt TTC so I really want to get knocked up this round....Failure is not an option, lol!
Right now, I'm still waiting on AF. Wish it would get here soon b/c I'm ready to start this next cycle!
My boys are the same spacing too! They're best buddies and worst enemies! Usually best buddies, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by PeonyPrincess
Amari, any sign of AF? I’m still waiting too :(
We'll all be in good company! That'll be fun to watch all the BFPs roll in after our attempts! :luck:Quote:
Originally Posted by HopeandDreamG
Lynxie…when will you POAS? Soon, right!?! YAY!
Surgena…sending you BFP vibes! Still early so don’t get discouraged! :HH:
:wave: to everyone else!
hey ladies how are we all, im ok i swear my bodys trying to tell me in pregnant, huge temp rise this morning and cramps all day yesterday but cant be we didnt even try this month as we have only been on diet for 3 weeks, oh an just wanted to say i have 3 sisters and there is 9 years between me (the youngest) and my eldest sister and we get on like a house on fire we just love each others company,
just a Q if your ph is 4.5 - 5 anyway do you need to use replens/rephresh ?
I hope so, OOTB. :(
LMN7...I'm so excited for you to start testing!
Regarding Replens/RepHresh, you may want to choose RepHresh (over Replens) b/c it keeps pH low even when sperm come on the scene (since semen raises the overall pH inside). Replens doesn't keep working for that long & probably won't be as beneficial to you as your pH is already low. If you find you're not getting preg though, you may want to drop RepHresh all together, especially w/your naturally low pH. Hope this makes sense...I feel like I've not worded this well...
OOTB hun i wont be testing this month as we didnt dtd this time, was just saying i think my body is playing tricks on me this month i think it knows i want to be pregnant with my girl sooooooooooooooo much its getting me thinking all sorts lol,
thanks for the advice on rephresh its weird as before the diet my ph was 7.5 !!! and now is 4.5 and went to 4.75 just before ovulation (thats if i worked out when O actually was) its just il be on clomid next month for my first attempt and i dont want to be on it for long as i used it 3 times in the past with 2 pregnancies, worked a charm for me before, but didnt know if your supposed to use rephresh if you have a low ph to begin with if you know what i mean,
Littlemiss, with you being on Clomid, I wouldn't use Rephresh or replens, if anything I'd maybe use Sylk since that's a lube that's good for TTC pink.
There is a 7 year age gap between my brother and me and we were very close growing up. I used to wish I had another sibling closer in age, but I was the "last chance" baby so they decided to get pregnant one last time after before deciding that 3 was enough. My two sisters are 12 and 10 years older though, and I'm not very close to them, although they are nice, etc. I just felt like I could never relate to what they went through. Now that I have young children, they have young teenagers, so the age gap continues, but now for the cousins. My two sons are the youngest of the whole brood; my 2nd sister's last baby, Teddy, is going to be 6 in April; at family get-togethers, Teddy and my oldest, Quinten, do play together well.
My brother's step son Justin is 14 and he's really good at humoring my oldest too; he lets my oldest pound on him with a nerf sword/gun. It's so cute! My oldest really thinks he's "getting it" but it's only because he lets him.