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ok, then i can't say the darker the line the closer to ovulation?
The spotting took place exactly on the day of the 1st Max. Before that, I had severe back pain for 2 days, I don't know anything like that. The first time happened! Am I worried about that?
Yes. The darkness of the line does not tell you how close you are to ovulation. It only tells you how much hormone is coming out in your urine. But the amount of hormone in your urine doesn't give you a timeline of ovulation, when it will happen, or even IF. Many times people hav their darkest positive AFTER they've already ovulated. Other times they do not ovulate till after their test has gone negative.
I would not worry about it, it's something that happens from time to time even without swaying. If it goes on into other months we may need to discuss having you eat more fat but for now I would just chalk it up to a one-off and see what happens.
many thanks. she help me with so many things ..
something else for my husband, should he avoid coke and coffee to sway pink?
No, he can have them in moderate amounts. Just not right before intercourse for the coffee.
great thanks, my husband will be happy;)
But for women, drinking a lot of coffee is right? or am I also not allowed to have sex?
I don't quite understand what you're asking me here, but you can have coffee and also can have sex with protection. Some people try not to have a female orgasm but it is probably ok.
Dear Atomic
Thank you, I got it wrong but I got it right, sorry.
I came across an interesting article:
If the man "collects" sperm for too long, there will tend to be more girls because the boys are not intended for long storage. Y sperm would be more sensitive.
What do you think of this Theroie?
Many thanks.
It is not true and based on an old theory that has been completely debunked.
X and Y sperm are equally strong, live the same amount of time, and swim the same speed.
The reason why abstain (collecting sperm for a long time) sways pink is because it lowers sperm count and lower sperm count may sway pink for reasons we do not know. But there are always about 50-50 X and Y sperm.
Thank you Atomic. I think it's so nice of you that you always answer? Why are you helping all the unsteady mothers? Do you even have time with that many children? :-) I just think you're great.
This month I will now, as you say, try to ovulate, wish me luck.
P.s. another question
Can I drink mineral water containing magnesium? I find it hard to just drink water? Since I'm losing more and more weight (size 168 and 52kg) Is white rice and white pasta, white bread ok? I'm trying to keep my weight down ... Do you have any other tips? Can i eat cheese? I'm not so sure about the diet whether cheese is ok or not ...
Thank you!!
This is my job. I make about the same amount of money doing this from the coaching service that I would get from a job, so I answer questions and do research as a profession.
My first two sons are adults and live in their own house, so they don't take up that much of my time. And my younger children are 12, 10, and 8 so are less work now. When my younger kids were small, my older sons still lived at home and did a lot of chores and they were a big help then.
Yes mineral water is fine, I agree I don't much care for straight water either.
As long as you're not on the alternate diet (in which case you should have brown rice, pasta, and wheat bread) then that is ok. Eat as much as you need to keep weight on.
Cheese is fine on all forms of the diet and is completely allowed.
Very exciting, in any case I am very happy to have found you and will happily recommend you to others.
Which I still can't get out of my head. You write everywhere, the only thing that seems to work is 1 attempt (amount of sperm count). They say that there are an equal number of x and y sperm. And you also say it is not correct that male sperm die earlier and are faster. The following is therefore not clear to me:
No matter whether 1 attempt, 2 attempts or 3 attempts. It always has the same number of x as y (as they say) so it shouldn't matter how much ejaculate there is?
I hope you understand my question is a bit complicated. I tried to find out on your site but I have a button :-)
I hope I don't annoy you, I find it all so exciting!
We don't know why, but things that seem to end with fewer sperm, even though they are half X and half Y, seem to sway pink.
So it's actually best to have one attempt to make fewer sperm, even though they are still 50-50.
Dear Atomic
I'm turning to you again. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out yet.
1 attempt on the 1st max day of Clearblue (morning). My husband was abstinent for about 3 days. I had a lot of hope but unfortunately it doesn't work out.
I have the following question: my cycle has changed again. I always have brown phlegm 3-4 days before my period.
Then the period always starts with a lot of brown spotting and only on 2-3. During the day, the period is really intense. It used to be the other way around (1st day totally heavy period and then weakened.)
I'm a little worried, since everything is so different, is this normal? Or a bad sign?
My Lutel phase is exactly 14 days including this spotting and my cycle is always 27-28 days.
Thank you.
It is very normal to see changes in your cycle when swaying. That doesn't concern me at all.
Are you ready to start making changes to boost odds of conception?
I'm ready and I know, I just wonder if I'm on the right track, that's all, hope you understand me ...
If you're ready, I would go to every 4 day method now - have unprotected sex every 72 hours or so apart starting after your period ends and continuing on till you're certain you've ovulated, even if that means going all the way through till next period starts.
Are you doing jump and dump, shallow release, jellies, douching, frequency, or anything like that?
is the every 4 days method also good if I ovulate on day 12?
I will try, thanks. I don't do any more attempts like jump and dump or anything. Why would you recommend this?
Do you think of the JonasM method? (boys moon, girls moon) found this in a thread and found it still interesting.
Yes it doesn't matter when you ovulate. It doesn't match with the timing methods, but they don't work anyway.
The reason I recommend that is because when we do the one attempt, it is easy to have the one attempt on the wrong day for our bodies. For instance, we assume "it would be best if I always had an attempt the day of positive OPK" (because that IS best in most cases). But what if YOU personally would be better off having an attempt the day before, or the day after? Or what if you never get a positive OPK that month?? By doing the e4d, you are always in with just one viable attempt in your fertile window, so it's an easy way of having one attempt, but changing the day without doing it deliberately. That way you can be more likely to have a lucky attempt at the right time and you won't miss the month having a false positive on your OPK.
The Jonas method is nonsense. It does not work. The method came to Jonas in a dream and it is based on magic and mysticism. I know several people who ordered the calendar and had sex on the right days and a) did not get pregnant for long periods of time because the days were impossible for them to conceive on and b) got opposites when they did finally conceive.
Thank you Atomic. And if that doesn't just work every 3 days?
Another question, you read a lot on the Internet that just one attempt in the fertile window is not enough to get pregnant, is that correct?
What do you think is the higher chance of getting pregnant if you have sex at the first or second positive OPK from Clearblue?
How do you see the chances of getting pregnant after ovulation for a girl? (There is this woman from New Zealand with the 6 boys).
There is no every 3 days. There is only every 4 days done either in the "every 72 hour" pattern or the "every 96 hour" pattern (not those hours, but that is how you count the days). For a better chance of conception, do the every 4 days in the every 72 hour pattern. For possibly better chance of pink (tho we are getting good results with the 72 hour pattern) go to every 96 hours. Again, NOT those hours, but that is how you count the DAYS. Any time that day is fine. I know it is confusing but that is the least confusing way we can explain it.
No, it is not correct. If you couldn't get pregnant that way, I would not tell you to do it! Men make enough sperm in one batch of semen to impregnate every woman who has ever visited this site! One attempt is more than enough to get pregnant with. But over time we will add in another attempt, for those who actually don't get pregnant with one attempt.
First positive OPK. That is why I recommend that. Second positive OPK may be O Day for many people, which is proven in studies to be worse chance of conception than O-1 and 2.
The chances of getting pregnant after ovulation are very slim. O+12 is my least favorite sway technique. It is impossible to do because it is based on lies about how ovulation symptoms work (meaning that many of the people who get pregnant with the method had a totally different timing than they think) and it is believed that most eggs live only 8-12 hours and NOT 24 hours as the people who believe in O+12 claim. The study of O+12 only had 33 people in it, and only TWO got pregnant with the desired timing. And Kynzi, the lady who claims it worked for her, did not have any way to know when she ovulated other than guessing. All nonsense and it is nonsense that has caused a lot of people misery and ending up at a fertility clinic - in some cases with no baby at all because of the years they wasted on the terrible O+12. I have the full scientific case against O+12 here:
https://genderdreaming.com/forum/try...9-no-12-a.html
So just for the correct understanding:
I tried this cycle to have intercourse every 96 hours. Then in the next cycle you would try every 72 hours, correct?
To have a higher chance for Rosa you should have traffic every 96 hours and not every 72 hours correctly?
Hope I got you right. I keep trying and hope it works out soon, THANK YOU!
Yes, that is what we think. Though we have gotten very good results with 72 hours, 96 is more certain to be one attempt. We do NOT have statistics that prove 96 hours is better, it is just what we guess to be true. So since every 72 hours has gotten good results, it is not a bad thing to try with that pattern either. Your choice.
All right, Atomic, thanks for your help.
If I try again on ovulation day, how many days would you abstain for good results (pink sway)?
I know you have no statistics, but what are your successes with?
I just wanted to tell you that the change in diet is great, I have a lot less pain during my period and less blood. Thank you! :-)
If you're doing the e4d you would not have another attempt, you'd just have the e4d attempts. I would want to see you do a month or two trying with e4d before we added another attempt.
Most people do the e4d in the 72 hour pattern. But I still believe 96 hours apart is better to start with, it's just that most people have had many months of trying so they go right to 72 hours.
Great!! We do see a lot of changes in cycles with the diet!
All right, I'm just wondering whether it is better to try 1 attempt in the fertile window with "emptying outside" every 3 days or
as they say every 96 hours (with sex). I am wondering this because of the number of sperm count. Don't you think that every 96 hours there is too high a sperm count and fluctuates blue?
Wouldn't it be better to try 1 attempt in the fertile window with "emptying outside" every 72 hours? I hope I express myself correctly :-) I just still haven't fully understood this, please excuse me.
Yes, it's been funny since I've been eating less meat = less bleeding = less egg deficiency just great!
Another question, I was given a ton of peppermint syrup, should I go without this? I love syrup but maybe better another?
It is up to you. There is no difference between emptying outside and emptying inside, though, because the sperm can't survive 96 or even 72 hours inside.
The abstain and the FR didn't work. So apparently it is not making too high a sperm count, because lowering the sperm count isn't helping anyway.
2-3 times a week peppermint is ok. I would not have it more than that.
I read in many forums on your website that the sperm quality is best every 2 days.
If I want to get pregnant quickly, wouldn't it be best to have my husband void every 2 days and then try on the day of positive OPK?
Or is your experience that the chance is higher every 4 days?
I bet a lot on my next ovulation and want to do it as well as possible :-)
I'm a little confused now because so many forums say something else.
I am so glad to have you by my side, it makes a lot of people easy, thank you Atomic!
Sperm quality is best every 2-4 days. Not every 2 days. There is no difference between every 2 or 3 or 4 days. That frequency makes a lot of healthy sperm.
The problem with having one attempt is that you may have the one attempt at the wrong time! People make a lot of mistakes - they miss early ovulation, and late ovulation, they think they ovulated when they did not, and so on, and the every 4 days lets you still be in with an attempt even if those things happen. It is actually MUCH better chance of conception than one attempt. Plus, while on average the day of positive OPK is a good time to conceive, it isn't always for everyone and so the e4d allows you to have an attempt on a different day, if for you personally the day of positive OPK isn't a good day to conceive.
All the other forums base their recommendations on 50 year old or even older science that has been completely debunked using modern technology. Most of us on here got at least one opposite doing things that way. I know it's confusing but we are trying to IMPROVE chances with swaying, and that means stopping tactics that do nothing but cut chances of conception, or in some cases even sway blue!
Dear Atomic
I will follow your instructions and do so with timing!
One more question, can you have a quick look whether I am doing the LE diet correctly?
- skip breakfast regularly, but drink coffee with little milk in the morning (2 pieces)
- At lunchtime I eat pasta, rice, salad with a salad dressing and sometimes vegetables, and sometimes chicken
- Afternoon coffee with little milk now and then fruit
- In the evening I choose between bread with cheese and milk or fried eggs and milk or pasta / rice with vegetables
- Sparkling wine and wine every day
- 1 diet cola and some milk daily
- I always drink syrup with mineral water for lunch
- in between by always mineral water or diet coke
Can I do something better?
If so, can you send me the link where I can buy the diet plan?
I can't comment on anyone's diet without knowing their totals for protein, fat, and calories. It is possible to be eating too much or not enough based on serving size, even if you're eating the right kinds of foods.
All the plans and stuff are here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/payments.php
which package do you recommend me if it works quickly?
It is all about what you think you'll benefit from the most. The only differences between the packages is the amount of "stuff" that comes with them. If you only want the diet book (which is not personalized but useful for everyone) you'd just get that, or if you wanted a personalized plan you'd get that, and then there's also an option with diet and personalized plan, and then one that has everything we offer all together. Whichever you think would best meet your needs!
All right, I bought the instant plan where can I download it?
With my purchase, is there a way to get a list where I can easily find groceries and tips? Where can I download it? My purchase is shown in my profile but I cannot find a download. Thanks for your help.
Did you get an email message? Check your spam folder!Quote:
Originally Posted by Biene2019
Oh wait was it the diet plan?? It's here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...n-for-le-diet/ Sorry it's been a long day :p
Unfortunately I can't find anything in your link, it just says that nothing is available ????
Can you send me the Plan per E-Mail? Or what should i do?
I received the same link in Spam but no download?
I'll message tech support, but if you got it via your email it is supposed to be automated. I would check again with a different browser to see if that works.
it always just says:
There are no posts in this forum.
sorry i can't find anything else
Hello Atomic
Thanks for the plan, I feel very good with the diet and the cycle is super regular.
A question, a friend recommended the "Prefert Vaginalgel" to me. This is inserted into the vagina before intercourse, can you recommend this for pink?