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Nope. It's speculated that some of us even have more nerve endings some places than others just from sheer chance so we may be feeling things only for that reason and no other!
The only way to know is have a transvaginal ultrasound. They'll be able to see the corpus luteum. But after seeing dozens of people do this only to find that they were not able to predict based on the pain the side of ovulation, I can say definitively that it's not possible in any reliable way.
That’s good to know. At least if I don’t catch this cycle I will know moving forward that it doesn’t matter.
After my 48 hour static I re done the test to be sure and it was just the circle. Although the test strip seemed to look just as dark? Is that normal to happen or does the lines not really matter? Hopefully I ovulated yesterday or today so I’m either 0-1 or 0-2 which I’m praying is enough for me. My first static smily was 2 days ago and that was my attempt.
Some tests will automatically give you a negative after 48 hours no matter what. YOu might want to add in an e4d attempt or two after this just to be on the safest side.
Yeh I added in another attempt just to be sure. Although this morning I had brown discharge again 🤦*♀️ I thought I missed it this cycle so I have no idea what’s causing it. I’m hoping everything is maybe just sensitive and there’s no problems.
It may just be cervical bleeding post-o.
Yeh I’m hoping this is what it is. Iv had it now for 4/5 days after my positive OPK. It’s not a lot of it but I have mild cramps with it.
Were you ever able to get in for an ultrasound and bloodwork like we discussed earlier in this thread?
4-5 days after O (especially since this has been going on more than 1 cycle) needs to be checked out.
Not yet. Everything here has been cancelled with the pandemic. And I’m assuming the wait will be big. What do you advice I get checked and I can maybe look at going private for this.
It usually lasts around 4 days but it’s only ever get it 1/2 times each day and only when I wipe. It’s also accompanied with lots of clear cm. Never on it own.
I do think at this point you may want to get it checked. The odds are good that it's nothing, but it's simply that I cannot advise you properly because it's just beyond my ability to diagnose from here.
Yeh I appreciate that. I might call tomorrow to check up on the ultrasound. It was an endometrial ultrasound so I think this could pin point any problems. Iv never experienced it until October time and it’s been happening each month. This time it happened around 4 days after my suspected ovulation.
Hi Atomic
Been to doctors today for a pelvic examination. She said everything looked healthy so wouldn’t be a problem that end. She has chased up my ultrasound which should be in the next few weeks.
She also mentioned I come in for blood work for my hormones in CD21. In due my period in the next day or so and already started cramping. I’m also not sure if this is really a thing but my RHR has started to decrease in the past 2 days which I’m sure signals my period is on the way.
My testosterone levels are normal from my previous blood work which she said would count out PCOS?
The doctor cannot tell anything of relevance from the pelvic exam (well, cervical erosion, but that's fairly unusual). We need the ultrasound to tell us what is happning up inside.
For the most part yes if your testosterone is normal you don't have PCOS, but sometimes if you're controlling PCO via diet your testosterone would still be normal
But we have gobs of people with PCOS and they do not have this bleeding which is pretty unusual. That's why I hope we can get that ultrasound done soon!
Yes hopefully this comes in soon. I did say if we didn’t have it before the end of the next cycle I would go private.
No period today? But I just don’t have a good feeling anyway. I am thinking I maybe ovulated later than my positive OPK. I started to get the brown bleed 5 days after this. This is possible right?
I am trying to look at my graph on fitbit with rhr as I don’t temp. Again I’m not sure if this is something to go by but I seen it worked for a few people. Probably something else to obsess over.
I would not use Fitbit to track ovulation.
If your period has not come 14 days after ovulation then yes you most likely are either pregnant or else you ovulated late (or both). FXFXFX!
Cd 32 and still nothing. I’m too scared to take a pregnancy test just now as I’m
Dreading the negative :(. I took one on 12dpo, from my ovulation date with the OPK surge. But I think I maybe ovulated the week later with the brown bleed which I usually get.
If nothing tomorrow again I think I will pluck up the courage to take one. I’m hoping my body isn’t playing tricks on me and I get to day 33 with hope 🤞🙏🙏🙏.
Praying that this is my month
AAA!!! Good luck!
Hi Atomic
At got me today. Day 34, I am honestly gutted. I just don’t know if I can keep going. It’s making me feel miserable now.
When did you end up having your attempts in relation to when you got your period?Quote:
Originally Posted by jac1417
What are the parts of the sway you hate the most?
Well it looks like we had an attempt every 2nd day this month. The actual week I thought I would ovulate I didn’t. I originally got the static smily on CD 14. But from CD19-22 I had the brown discharge which I usually get around ovulation time. Going off the cramps I get in my left ovary side and groin it would work out that I ovulated CD 21 which co insides with 14 days from ovulation to AF which would be today.
I have a chat again tomorrow with my doctor as I was to book in for blood work on day 21 coming.
The actual swaying part of it I don’t mind. I am now in a routine of not eating until later on in the afternoon and I’m vegetarian. I’m not under weight in the slightest as I’m probably heavier than when I conceived my 2 boys. Although I had more muscle mass with them as Iv stopped any weight stuff.
I think the part that worries me most is the brown bleed. I just feel this is indicating a problem and now going onto month 9 when Iv usually fell pregnant much sooner than this worries me. My cycles have been 33,28,35 now the past 3 months. Again I’m no expert but I’m not sure if I am actually ovulating or the fact it could be later which is why I can’t catch.
Hopefully I am able to try something to help this month but I think my doctor will probably want me to try again this month then with blood work and also an ultrasound which I have booked.
More than anything it’s how disheartened I am when I get to the end of the month and it hasn’t happened again. Even with this month trying more than we should have for a girl sway.
The key here is that we have got to get you in to have that brown bleeding checked.
Now, the cycles being 33, 28, 35 is no biggie at all. That's well in normal range. And if you were having cycles like that and then getting your period I would say you're for sure ovulating. But that brown bleeding could be throwing a spanner in the works - it may be you're having super short anovulatory cycles and 2 a month, so we need to have that checked. I truly can't help you without that ultrasound at this point because we need to rule out any physical reasons why that is happening.
I would keep going with regular attempts in the meantime. That way when the egg shows up (which can happen at any time! Your body is working to fix anything that is amiss even as we speak) you will be in a position to catch it.
I would advise doing more like 72 hours apart if you are still trying to sway, and no closer than 48 hours for conception. Too much sex, if you are having it all month long, may be too depleting for your husband.
Yeh I agree. I think it’s the brown bleed that’s really throwing me off here. Iv never experienced it ever and the fact it’s lasting upto 4 days just worries me that I wasn’t ovulating.
That’s good to know you think I am ovulating so here’s hoping that the blood work will confirm this.
This cycle coming I will go ahead with the every 72hrs and hopefully by the end of next month we will have a clear answer and a way forward. Yes it’s generally every 72hours we were doing until ovulation and back to 48hrs. I never even looked at the fact from my husbands part either so will definitely stick with 72 this time for who whole month.
The longer we are trying the more impatient I’m getting so I don’t want it to effect my sway in anymore so will keep pushing forward as much as I can.
If you are doing the OPK I would consider adding in another attempt at the first positive OPK. This may help boost odds of conception.
Hi Atomic
Sorry Iv been quiet I wanted to wait until I had all test results back. So ultra sound went well. She said I had ovulated this month and my right ovary was the dominant side. Everything looks really good. No issues what so ever.
Bloods came back all normal, progesterone is were it should be and no issues with thyroids. She has told me to give it another 3 months before I am able to seek any fertility treatment. I’m hoping that we don’t need to go this far as I have already had 2 kids with no struggles.
Every month my body is completely different. This cycle I would say I have all the symptoms and had negative test today at roughly 12/13dpo. So I think I’m out another month and no idea why we are unable to conceive.
So your lining was all good and there were no polyps or anythign?? GREAT!
So what probably happened was that your hormones simply went back into a normal range of where they should be and then that's when you were tested. This doesn't mean you didn't have something going on, just that by the time the doc got around to testing you, it was already on the mend (which happens all the time, it's SOOO frustrating!)
I would just keep having attempts every 72 hours and then add in one more attempt at first positive OPK.
So your lining was all good and there were no polyps or anything?? GREAT!
So what probably happened was that your hormones simply went back into a normal range of where they should be and then that's when you were tested. This doesn't mean you didn't have something going on, just that by the time the doc got around to testing you, it was already on the mend (which happens all the time, it's SOOO frustrating!)
I would just keep having attempts every 72 hours and then add in one more attempt at first positive OPK.
Yeh they have said everything looks as it should and the lining at the time of my cycle was normal.
The brown bleed the doctor thinks is associated with hormones as this cycle I got it 1 week before my positive OPK.
The past 3 months I have tried the every 72hrs and another at positive OPK. I’m beginning to think maybe I’m unable to conceive again as I am doing everything I possibly can to conceive. I think because we were so lucky with our boys every month is now a struggle to come to terms that it’s no happened again.
Apart from the obvious there is nothing else I can do or take to hopefully catch next month.
Right, well, that's like saying that breathing is associated with lungs. :) Not really very explanatory as to what is going on. The important thing is that she did the ultrasound and ruled out any polyps or fibroids that are causing the bleeding.
When did you start and finish the 72 hours?
You are making a massive and unwarranted leap assuming you cannot get pregnant again. You were having that bleeding (which again, is extremely unusual, which is why I was so emphatic about you getting checked by your doctor) for SOME reason - and your doctor throwing up her hands and saying "hormones" is a non-answer that is meaningless. There was possibly some reason for that that is clearing up on its own now.
There are not magical pregnancy pills, unfortunately (this is why you can see sites full of people taking everything under the sun and still not conceiving) I strongly, strongly urge you not to "take something" because 99% of the things that people say are good for conceiving make matters worse. I think your body is fixing things on its own and I really urge you not to interfere with that.
If you would like, we can consider going to Sperm Meets Egg Plan if you're ready to do that.
Also, are you using any lubricant, or doing anything you think could be cutting odds of conception??
Yeh I feel the same way. I have never ever had brown bleed until September last year. And since then it’s been re occurring.
As everything looks normal I think it’s just a case of get on with it until cycle 12. She also seemed to think my body was trying to get back to normal from the implant but is this the case. Can it take so long? If I’m definelty ovulating then surly I am able to conceive.
We have not taking or tried anything different to conceive. There was tablets and lubricants I seen but if I’m ovulating then I can’t really see what else I am able to take?
I done the 72hr with positive OPK in Jan and Feb I then went on and done every second day and this month has been every 72hrs. I remember you mentioning about depleting the sperm so stuck with just the 72hrs this month.
Last month I got my OPK surge a week before I actually ovulated. This month my surge was day 14+15 with possible ovulation day 16. Again I’m not too sure if I actually did ovulate then as I don’t temp. My day 21 blood was on day 22 so if I did ovulate later would this have flagged up on the bloods?
It would be tomorrow I am due so we shall see how things go but it’s looking likely that I’m out again this month.
Iv never heard of that plan? Did this cut the odds of a girl.
The longer this goes on the less likely it is related to the implant. I think she's just saying that to placate you to be honest.
If you're ovulating then yes you can get pregnant PROVIDED that in the other months your lining and hormones post ovulation were ok. Now, the brown bleeding may indicate something was going on that was preventing that. We're going to hope that clears up from here on in.
I want to know when in your cycle you're starting the every 72 hours. And how long in the cycle are you doing it?? In terms of cycle days.
If you ovulated CD 16 the CD 21/22 blood tests should have been ok. And that they came back normal indicates you did have them done at the right time. If it wasn't at the right time we'd have seen numbers saying you hadn't ovulated when you had instead. It told us what we needed to know.
Yes, Sperm Meets Egg Plan might cut odds of pink some so if you want to carry on wtih every 72 plus one more attempt at positive OPK that's also ok.
Hi Atomic
I am so very sorry I didn’t see you had replied to message 🤦*♀️
We tried Sperm meets egg this month but I didn’t ovulate until CD 23 which is late ovulation. My spike was CD 22. I am out again this month even with doing all those attempts. Although I was sent to hospital the day after ovulation with an infection ( still not sure what caused it but suspected UTI but urine came back clear so no idea what caused the agonizing abdominal pains, high temp and heart rate increase) I’m not sure if this would have dubbed our chance of conceiving this month.
I agree that the longer it goes on it’s definelty not connected to the implant. I have 2 more months to try before I’m even looked at by fertility specialist and she seems to think it will happen.
This month coming we are moving house so I think I am going to take it off from trying. If it happens it happens but somewere in me thinks there’s a problem and I have said it for a few months now so hopefully I am wrong 🙏
CD 23 is not terribly late O though. Did you still have attempts at that time?
Oh no I'm sorry to hear you weren't well! It does sound like a UTI, did they give you any antibiotics?
Have you had any spotting this month so far?
You could try "not trying, not preventing" as a method if you wanted to. Just have unprotected sex when you want to and then don't worry about it otherwise. It can help cut the stress a lot to do that.
Hi Atomic
Sorry I taking time away from everything as we were moving house.
So I’m back again and still not managed to conceive. This is exactly a year now and still no further forward as to why. I’m ok cd 41 today with no period and no sign of it. All negative tests and I’m pretty sure I didn’t ovulate this month which would be a first for me. (I track my rhr every month and it rises until I get my period which it then declines. This month I just declined straight away, although I had all the symptoms of ovulation). I had bad cramps the night before my period was due and then Iv had on and off cramps and my belly is so bloated I can barley hold it in.
While I’m waiting to be seen by a fertility specialist is this common for that to happen and do you think it’s possible to ovulate this month coming.
Hey, you guys never need to worry about not getting back to me! It's my job to get back to you, not the other way round. :)
When did you think you ovulated in relation to where we are now?
I don't find your heart rate to be very predictive of who is pregnant and who isn't. Even though it seemed to be accurate for you in the past that doesn't mean it always will be. Many things affect your heart rate that have nothing to do with hormones.
Have you taken a pregnancy test?
Yeh Iv took loads and still negative. I usually always ovulate between days 14-23. It’s never really went over this or even missed it. My cycles have been so regular for over a year now.
I know I think with my rhr it’s always the same graph roughly that happens. It tends to go up after ovulation and then decline when I get my period. But this month it went up twice and just declined straight away. I had all the usual symptoms of ovulation and had all the cramps when I thought I was along with the brown bleed I have been getting and then cramps after when I was due on.
My only explanation would be my hormones are all out of balance ? Would it be possible to just ovulate again or would I need to take a period before this can happen 😞
If you have not ovulated, which is entirely possible, you can, and in most cases, still will, ovulate. If you have ovulated, which is also possible and you've just not gone long enough to get your period yet, you will get your period soon. There is also the possibility of an anovulatory cycle which simply means you will get a bleed that acts like a period, your estrogen will drop and you'll have bleeding, without ever ovulating. This is ok because if it happens it will be a reset and you'll start over with a new cycle. In most cases, the following cycle is normal and everything will be good to go at that point.
If you feel you need more clarity, your doc can give you bloodwork or an ultrasound to see where you are in the cycle. Please note, they are not always flawless in doing this and can make mistakes (less so with the bloodwork, but they sometimes interpret them wrongly). Your doctor can prescribe some medicine that will make you have a bleed (not a period, but a resetting bleed like i described above) but PLEASE do not take it till you've gone 14 days without unprotected sex and a negative pregnancy test at the end of that time. Even if they do the bloodwork and ultrasound, they can be wrong and make mistakes, and using that medication when you're pregnant can cause a miscarriage. Do this waiting for 14 days even if they tell you it's ok not to, please trust me on this as we've had several sad/stressful stories from doctors being neglectful in giving out the medicine to people who were pregnant but just too soon along to have it register on a pregnancy test.
Thank you so much for all the advice.
I still haven’t had a bleed and booked in tomorrow for blood work. I have taking another test today which is negative again so I’m assuming the blood work tomorrow will confirm I am not pregnant.
I will take everything you have said on board and if they offer me something to restart I will wait the 14 days.
Could all my hormones being out of whack cause tiredness, bloating, and sore breasts. I have no sign of either ovulation or my period coming but I’m just hoping I will bleed soon so I can re start again.
Do be aware though that if you've been having unprotected sex you can still be pregnant, and just not be far enough along though to have it register even on the bloodwork. I would go 14 days without having unprotected sex and a negative pregnancy test before using any medication to trigger a bleed to kickstart a new cycle.
Extended cycles do sometimes seem to bring with them many unpleasant symptoms. But try not to think of it as being "out of whack" because long cycles are one manifestation of normal that your body does sometimes when it needs to. Doctors too often treat women's bodies as if we're broken if we don't have what htey have deemed "perfect" 28 day cycles, but in reality we're not meant to have 12 cycles a year, it's normal and natural for us to have some longer cycles in the mix and historically the 12 regular 28 day cycles a year is the exception, not the rule.
Hang in there, hopefully AF will come shortly.
Thankfully AF arrived this morning. I don’t think Iv even been glad to see her than I ever have. 🤦*♀️
So I have made an appointment to go private and will be seen within 3 weeks rather than the 6 month to a year after my referral. Hopefully we can get to the bottom of this. I wish I don’t it sooner but was forever told I had to wait the year.
My cycle there was 7 weeks so maybe it’s what my body needed, who knows.
Can you think back about 2 weeks? Did you have any symptoms of ovulation at that time?
To be fair that full month my body was everywhere. I had the usual brown bleed I have but around 1 week before the suspected ovulation date and tiredness and bloating all just before AF arrived.
My AF this month and last has only lasted 2 days and then stop/start for 2 days after it. Plus yesterday after exercise I was bleeding when wiped. I had the heavy feeling in my pelvis I usually get before ovulation/AF
just after exercising. Wish I knew what is going on down there.