Due in December/January/February 2013/14

Rainbow I made him look at endless boy and girl potty shots so he def didnt see a willy and doesn't think it looked like a boy shot so it was either scrotum, labia or cord so guess we are none the wiser!

Funnily enough she said we could look and it was a potty shot with legs close together and no bits sticking out. Then she asked what we had and I said three boys. I said I wanted a girl but hubby wanted a boy and DH said he didn't care. Then she smiled and said oh I think if you got a little girl you'd be very smitten. Think it was just polite conversation though!

So sorry for the lack of personals ladies. I really hope you're all keeping well. :wave:
We finally exchanged contracts on our house a week ago & will be getting the keys to our new house next Friday. As you can imagine it is manic here & DH isn't allowed anytime off work except for the day before moving day. He has to go in for night shift on moving day!

Anyway, I went for my 31 week check-up today & was told that I have a happy baby! Always wonderful to hear. I was measuring a week ahead though & am above the 90th percentile. I was told not to worry at all but can't help thinking we're in for a bruiser this time! I forgot to ask the midwife when we are encouraged to write our birth plan in the UK. Does anyone know? I remember writing one with ds2 but that was over 4 years ago & I'm not sure if anything's changed. :)

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He peeked by accident! Tech said look straight ahead and he thought she meant at the screen.

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Rainbow I made him look at endless boy and girl potty shots so he def didnt see a willy and doesn't think it looked like a boy shot so it was either scrotum, labia or cord so guess we are none the wiser!

Funnily enough she said we could look and it was a potty shot with legs close together and no bits sticking out. Then she asked what we had and I said three boys. I said I wanted a girl but hubby wanted a boy and DH said he didn't care. Then she smiled and said oh I think if you got a little girl you'd be very smitten. Think it was just polite conversation though!

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Sounds like she did a good job to not give away any details! Our tech left me totally clueless! She never once told us to look away but I was so scared I'd see something that I was squinting the entire scan to blur what I was seeing LOL! She totally said at one point "and there's the leg bone" and she was measuring it, but there was only one on the screen so it's like she cut out the crotch and we only saw leg. At the very end she said while moving the wand around "and gender, oh right.. you don't want to know" and then quickly moved away. I'm like what? does she not already know.. gahhhh! Seriously, I hate the scans.. it's torture. I kept thinking I saw balls or penis even when she was measuring the head! I'm glad your still out of the loop because that makes it fun.. but now you'll be wondering forever what it was that DH saw!

Lol black&gold I'm thrilled to be doing team green. It feels like the right thing to do and I feel like I was told to do it in the dream!

Luckily she was only looking there briefly for thigh bone. I saw no bits and pieces but I know that doesn't mean anything! Dh said def didn't see a willy so I think we are still on for surprise baby! Probably still be blue though x

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Soar - Thanks for telling me that, glad I am not the only one! My husband just rolled his eyes when i booked the scan and said i should just trust the doctor. She did check twice to be sure. Hopefully she didn't miss something! We will be taking our boys to the scan so they can see baby too, my eldest (5) is really excited.

Waiting4daisy - I had really early positives with this one and the girl I miscarried at 17 weeks. I felt pregnant both times before the positive test too. With my boys I think the tests went positive after my period was due, I certainly had no idea I was pregnant either as had no symptoms with them. We were trying so I was testing but each time i was shocked. I never had morning sickness with my boys or the baby we lost at 13 weeks. This pregnancy and the one before (girl) I have had random bouts of extreme nausea even now still at 22 weeks.

Feeling really anxious this pregnancy, is anyone else? I haven't felt a lot of movement over the last few days, but was told that my placenta is anterior so I guess that must be it. I did have an anterior placenta with my youngest but I was so relaxed that pregnancy I don't remember being at all concerned at any point about movements. I think the two miscarriages recently are probably making me extra paranoid.

I haven't bought anything for the baby yet either, and really not sure if I will as it feels like tempting fate a bit, which is silly because we bought tonnes of stuff for both boys after our 20 week scan and it never crossed my mind not to. We do have a lot of stuff left from our boys in the loft so probably don't need to buy much anyway, but if it is a girl, then some pink clothes would be cute - I just can't bring myself to buy anything right now.

I really admire everyone who is staying team green. We did that for our first and it was such a wonderful surprise when he was born and really exciting. We did find out the gender of our second son. With this one I wanted to know but chickened out in the scan room, the tech agreed to write it on a bit of paper. She wrote it down but didn't conceal it very well before putting it in the envelope so I saw it. I suppose it was just as well that we wanted to know, otherwise that would have been annoying!

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Welcome! I am due 4th Feb (I have to have a caserian at 38weeks) with my first girl after two boys, and I swear your posts could be mine. I was so suspicious my 'girl' would grow a doodle before my next scan. I was told girl by my ob after a very girly nub shot at the 12 week scan, but at 11 weeks my ob said it looked boy-ish, but too early to tell, and that never left my mind. So we finally had our 20 week anatomy scan and got a great tech whom I had before for ds2's anatomy scan, so I was relieved when she checked 3 times then finally told us GIRL. I feel like i'm beginning to accept it now after two scans at different gestations, so I think you booking in again is great, and having your boys there is an awesome idea. My ds1 is 4 and ds2 is 2, ds1 is super excited, and even more so that it's a girl.

I didnt buy anything for a long time. It was only after my anatomy scan (second time they told me girl) that I finally brought stuff. After my 15w scan I brought one outfit, and hid it in the cupboard and didnt look at it for fear I was tempting fate. I'm not even religious or superstitious, yet somehow I became both in that moment. haha. I was so terrified after 18 months ttc and 4 chemicals, and swaying hard, that it may all be taken away from me. I still worry a little, but now after two scans I feel more confident and have now been given 2 bags full of girl clothes from my girl mum friends, which I sorted out last weekend, so I must be accepting it. I keep reminding myself that with the boys I didn't doubt the scans and had everything brought and planned, why doubt this one?

I'm really sorry to hear of your late miscarriages, I can't relate but I can sympathise. Even without any real reason to worry, I have worried this time about every single niggle or pain. I think its because now I know I have a girl on board, and all I did to get her, i'm terrified to have that taken away, even more so than ever before. Because I really dont think I would have the strength or energy to do another sway like the one I did. Not to mention the trama of loosing any baby. I think its natural to worry, and the more you have invested emotionally, the more likely you are to worry. Of course relaxing is healthiest for the baby, but if you figure out how to do that, let me know!!! haha

When is this next scan of yours?

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Just got back from my dr visit - I have complete placenta previa meaning the entire opening to my cervix is covered by the placenta. My dr said the placenta is literally right on top of it. Outlook for it moving doesn't sound good - have another ultrasound at 27 weeks (8 weeks from today). PLEASE ladies, say a prayer for me and baby if you'd be willing. I just need to be able to enjoy this pregnancy a bit and not be scared every minute.

I hope you're all doing better than I am today!

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I'm sorry this is happening hon, I do know that in many, many cases it moves. It moved with mine with ds1 but it was only partial. As it turns out his 48hr labour ended in caserian anyway and I often wonder if it would have just been better to go straight to one with him, given how many things went wrong in that labour. He ruined so much trying to get out the normal way, I'm not allowed to give birth naturally now, and have to have caserians regardless.

Ironically this time my placenta is on top.

Try not to assume anything until 27 weeks. If it helps your state of mind, research caserians and what they involve, from credible websites that aren't all aimed at trying to stop women 'choosing' them for what is deemed non medical reasons. Those sites end up depressing you. Research caserian for placenta previa or medical reasons.

In my opinion, birth is pretty crap whichever way it happens, just in different ways. I was SO set on having a natural birth, and when that was taken away from me I was really upset. BUT after pushing ds1 half way out, then having a caserian, then a planned one ds2, and watching my friends with their natural births or caserians I can say they are equally crap with an equally amazing reward at the end.

Natural birth: Lots of pain for a relatively short amount of time, with less severe complications but the risk is still there, common minor complications like tearing or stitches last 1-2 weeks of pain.
Caserian: Not painful at the time, more severe potential complications, but the controlled environment minimises their risk of occuring. Painful for 6 weeks after, annoying not being able to lift things.

With caserians now you can choose a lot of things, that you couldn't before. I chose to have dh hold baby near my neck so we could snuggle while I was closed up. They did a few quick checks then I had baby in my arms within 1 minute of being born. They wrapped him up and dh held him for me but he was there. 45 mins after (when I was all closed etc) dh and baby followed me into recovery where baby and I had skin to skin contact and I fed him immediately for a long time, while they did a few other monitoring things for me, and checked me. Then we all went to the hospital room and from there it was the same as a natural birth, except I couldnt get up until my legs came back awake, so a few hours.

So research it all, and find a scenario or plan you can live with, then hope for that thing to move!!

Thank you so much Meeks, that post made me feel a lot better. I am just doing a lot of praying that it moves and that we get better news at 27 weeks. More than anything, I just want baby to be healthy and however baby arrives into the world I can deal with (as long as it's 37 weeks or later:)). My doctor isn't concerned about preterm labor or anything and my cervix is measuring great, so I really just need to try to let go and enjoy what I can of this pregnancy. It helps me to hear that you have had 2 csections, though. I am so not a wimp but I am honestly terrified to have one. You are the best, thank you thank you for your response.

Ladies, please keep us in your thoughts. I truly believe that the more people that wish this thing will move, the better off we are. Thank you all, glad to hear you are all doing well!

Waiting4Daisy - Oooh, that sounds promising!! No willy, nice comments from tech...if I were you, I would totally be thinking pink!! ;)

Meeks - I think those that have caesarians from the beginning don't think they're that bad, and those that have a c after vaginal think they're awful! But you're right...they're both hard on the body and you have to recover in different ways. I feel pretty blessed with mine so far...have had pretty good experiences each time. Praying for another with Ds4!

Onthepond - Will most definitely pray for placenta to move!! I have confidence that it CAN move...so prayers headed your way, for sure!

two1984 - Will this be your last baby, now that you have your girl? Or will you try for a sister for your DD? :)

AFM - Doing ok, no issues with baby...feeling a little more movement, but still not much. Grrr. Hoping it means he's laid back! God knows I need another like DS2! :)

In other news, my 94-year-old grandpa had a stroke this week, and it does not look like he's going to make it. He was married 60+ years before my grandma passed away 3 years ago...they have 5 kids and loads of grandkids and great-grandkids. Such a legacy my sweet grandpa is leaving. I got to talk to him on the phone today (he is 1700 miles away across the country), although he couldn't respond much...he did say a couple things, and I was so happy to be able to say goodbye and tell him how much I love him. Done some crying today, but I know I will see him again in heaven one day. :)

Rainbow what a shame about your poor grandpa. Praying he makes a miraculous recovery and survives to see his new great grand baby.

I am not even sure if the sonographer looked for or saw gender so still counting myself team green, with maybe a slight blue lean because my nub, if it was a nub, might be angled and since hubby *might* have seen scrotum lol (or 'baw sack' as he do eloquently put it, the joys of Scottish men!).

Think we have actually decided on names, hubby axed Flynn so we are looking at Daisy for a girl and Freddie for a boy.

Onthepond as long as baby is out safely, that is all that matters. My sis is a doctor and very pro natural birth and she said they believe it's very close to being safer to birth by c section than vaginally, that's how routine c sections are (don't mean elective c sections which don't really happen here in the UK but for medical reasons). Placenta may still move. I had a friend whose last two babies she had placenta previa and both times it moved and she delivered like normal. Meeks stories about cuddling baby after section sound like you get the same amount of contact with baby and chances to bond.