May 2018 TTC & 2ww thread

Hi! I've been out with a nasty tummy bug, which elevated my temps, which was the least worst part of it. I think I'm on the other side of it now though.

We are doing kinda SMEP. My stomach bug didn't help (we missed CD 10) and I'm worried he's going to get it right when it's time. I'm on CD 11 today and expect my LH surge over the weekend if not Monday.

Now to go catch up with all the posts I missed!

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Originally Posted by kikurose

Hi! I've been out with a nasty tummy bug, which elevated my temps, which was the least worst part of it. I think I'm on the other side of it now though.

We are doing kinda SMEP. My stomach bug didn't help (we missed CD 10) and I'm worried he's going to get it right when it's time. I'm on CD 11 today and expect my LH surge over the weekend if not Monday.

Now to go catch up with all the posts I missed!

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Sorry to hear you were sick!

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Originally Posted by HGmama

Thanks atomic. We've doing between every 72-96 hours depending on mood. We dtd on that first positive opk on CD8 because it had been 5 days due to mood and not thinking i could possibly be ovulating soon. Its a possibility I ovulated today because my opk was just slightly lighter. I guess we'll see with temps and time.... I looked back and I had a past cycle that I ovulated this early according to temps and fertility friend.
Oh and nothing scares a girl into buying some LE foods than a possibility of already ruining a sway. So chugging the iced coffee and picked up some pork. I'm usually a very red meat girl.

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You can't tell if you've ovulated based on your OPK getting lighter - that's not how it works. You can have your OPK go negative and not have ovulated yet, or you can have it stay positive for a day or more after ovulation. I had actually just written a pretty thorough explanation in another thread, I'll copy it below:

An analogy I like to use to help people explain what surging/OPK really is....

The LH surge is NOT ovulation, it doesn't make you ovulate, it's just like this signal your body sends to itself to say "ok everything is in place, let's ovulate at some point pretty soon here". It's as if your boss came to your office and stuck a post-it on your door that said "Call Cleveland by Friday". The Post It doesn't make you call Cleveland, and it isn't instantaneous. It's just a signal. (the post it note signifies the positive OPK)

You could see that note, come in, and call Cleveland right away. (this would be akin to having a surge and Oing all right in a row very quickly)

Or you could ignore the note for a couple days, leave it on your door, but still call Cleveland right away (this would be akin to having a positive OPK for a couple days even tho you already ovulated)

Or, you could take down the note right away but not call Cleveland and just remember to do it later (your OPK goes negative, but you haven't ovulated yet)

Or, you could leave the note up for many days and then not call Cleveland until the very last minute (having many days of positive OPK that culminates in ovulation)

Or you could take down the note, throw it in the trash, and never call Cleveland (so your ovulation is delayed or stopped)

You could even have your boss mean to put up the post it note but forget, or maybe you don't see it or it falls off or whatever (you never get a positive OPK because the strips are defective or your urine is diluted or you miss a day of testing)

The point is, the act of ovulation and the surge are connected but aren't cause and effect. The OPK surge doesn't make you ovulate, it signals to this other body part (your ovary aka the worker in question) that ovulation is desired and so the worker/ovary needs to do its job and call Cleveland/pop out that egg but it does that on its own timeline to a very great extent. All the pos OPK is, is a post it note from on high that tells you do perform a task but leaves the when, up to you or your ovary to decide. So you can have a pos opk that goes negative but still have not ovulated, you can have a pos OPK that goes on for many days and have already ovulated, you can have days and days of positive OPK and have Oed at the very start of them or not till the very end of them or smack dab in the middle, you can have even false positives (you get pos OPK but never O) or false negatives (you O without ever getting a pos OPK)

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Originally Posted by gafan

Pbn,
Yes, I had a spike CD16 last cycle.
Opks have faint second line but not near positive yet. Been testing afternoon and evening for a few days. Yesterday's afternoon reading was later than usual, at 3pm I think. Few fluids for 4hrs before that. Got a fade in like this last time with clear positive on CD18. If not clear positive today (CD17) would you suggest attempt tonight or tomorrow night? This will be attempt month 4.
Plan is for E4D moving forward but this cycle I prefer to wait for positive OPK to start.
Is it possible that am opk could be negative at 7 or 9pm one day and positive at 1pm the next day but that by 10pm that positive night the attempt is too late?
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6e5253

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It's possible but the vast majority of the time that would be perfect timing.

Positive for me, so attempt is tonight. Funny thing is my husband has been seriously getting on my nerves... not sure I want sex or another baby with him anytime soon. I am not going to miss this chance though!Attachment 39480

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Good luck for tonight;)

Good luck Gafan! :cheer:

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

You can't tell if you've ovulated based on your OPK getting lighter - that's not how it works. You can have your OPK go negative and not have ovulated yet, or you can have it stay positive for a day or more after ovulation. I had actually just written a pretty thorough explanation in another thread, I'll copy it below:

An analogy I like to use to help people explain what surging/OPK really is....

The LH surge is NOT ovulation, it doesn't make you ovulate, it's just like this signal your body sends to itself to say "ok everything is in place, let's ovulate at some point pretty soon here". It's as if your boss came to your office and stuck a post-it on your door that said "Call Cleveland by Friday". The Post It doesn't make you call Cleveland, and it isn't instantaneous. It's just a signal. (the post it note signifies the positive OPK)

You could see that note, come in, and call Cleveland right away. (this would be akin to having a surge and Oing all right in a row very quickly)

Or you could ignore the note for a couple days, leave it on your door, but still call Cleveland right away (this would be akin to having a positive OPK for a couple days even tho you already ovulated)

Or, you could take down the note right away but not call Cleveland and just remember to do it later (your OPK goes negative, but you haven't ovulated yet)

Or, you could leave the note up for many days and then not call Cleveland until the very last minute (having many days of positive OPK that culminates in ovulation)

Or you could take down the note, throw it in the trash, and never call Cleveland (so your ovulation is delayed or stopped)

You could even have your boss mean to put up the post it note but forget, or maybe you don't see it or it falls off or whatever (you never get a positive OPK because the strips are defective or your urine is diluted or you miss a day of testing)

The point is, the act of ovulation and the surge are connected but aren't cause and effect. The OPK surge doesn't make you ovulate, it signals to this other body part (your ovary aka the worker in question) that ovulation is desired and so the worker/ovary needs to do its job and call Cleveland/pop out that egg but it does that on its own timeline to a very great extent. All the pos OPK is, is a post it note from on high that tells you do perform a task but leaves the when, up to you or your ovary to decide. So you can have a pos opk that goes negative but still have not ovulated, you can have a pos OPK that goes on for many days and have already ovulated, you can have days and days of positive OPK and have Oed at the very start of them or not till the very end of them or smack dab in the middle, you can have even false positives (you get pos OPK but never O) or false negatives (you O without ever getting a pos OPK)

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Thank you for that explanation. I did not know that at all. I hope to not have an anovulatory cycle, but really just get back to a normal cycle since its been 4 months since Ive had a true cycle.
Guess I'll start concentrating on attempting a LE diet.

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2c

Mummy2boys that is a dark bfp to get on one test but not another with same pee??!! I'm scratching my head with this! I know they're expensive but I'd consider testing only with frers? I'll be waiting and hoping for some confirmation over the next few days! Fx fx fx!!

Gafan good luck! And I had to laugh when you said you werent sure you wanted to bd with dh or even have another baby with him [emoji23] I remember feeling that way many times during ttc, so angry at dh but still bded anyway even cranky [emoji23]. Men are painful sometimes [emoji30]

Kikurose a kinda smep may turn out better than a by the book smep anyway so don't stress at all about an extra day between bds. Just do what you's can on lead up to pos opk. Hope you're all better really soon.