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not to butt in,
but charlie I think you should totally ask for the nub shot! It woudl be so fun for you to get one and then post it on here so all the ladies can look and guess :)
And I think it was deaks who said it (if I'm wrong, I'm sorry!) about finding out what side the placenta is attached on...I totally plan on asking when I get pregnant again! It is fun to see!
am scared they might look at me like i am mad!! I know this baby was on the left when i had my early scan but i dont know which side the placenta was.
Is the placenta theory only valid up to a certain number of weeks? I saw bubs nub on the screen and thought it looked like a boy.
The boys got a football table for Christmas from fil. I now have in my living room the following furniture
Two three seater sofas
Massive footstall
Tv unit
Unit with tropical fish tank
Kids ikea chair
Corner unit with phone on
Bookshelf
Dinning table
Xmas tree (normally a wine rack where that is)
Football table
A mountain of cars and lego
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I NEED to move!!!!
I *think* the side the placenta is on is only valid very early on (like 6-10 weeks or something like that). I had a scan at 9 weeks and the corpus luteum was on the left ovary which means I ovulated on the left side and there are studies which say more girls are conceived with left handed ovulation - I think the side the placenta is is related to the side you ovulated from too? I'm not entirely sure about any of it!
Gosh you ladies have been busy this afternoon :) :HH:
Charliespy ~ I’m still full of cold, but had a midwife appointment this afternoon and my bp is still under control and i had no protein in my urine today so that’s good news :) Good luck tomorrow at your scan!! Can’t wait to see the scan pictures! Would be fun with a nub picture if you got one! I’ve heard 13 week is the best time for nub guesses?
Pinga ~ It is hard to know what to answer to that question! I totally agree :agree: after having had more of one gender it’s quite obvious we wouldn’t complain if we got blessed with an opposite iykwim it’s just such a stupid question IMO!
aww you must be so proud of your ds2! The first steps are sooo special! Soon he’ll be running everywhere ;)
Chocolate ~ when is your scan? The ramzi theory is most accurate between 6-8 weeks, the sooner the better! :agree:
why don't you do the urine ph test as well for fun :) You test your fmu with a ph test stick and if the ph is lower than 6 it's supposed to mean girl and if it's higher than 6 that indicates boy. From what i've heard it's supposed to be quite accurate.
Deaks ~ I have no idea why they would think that :S I disagree though, you still have a great chance of pregnancy with the second batch!
Inglewood ~ yay for having had the gender confirmed! :D :cheer: twin girlies, amazing!!!!!! xx
Hi, here is the link to where I got my left/right side theory from: Can we please test this out? Early Gender Prediction - BabyandBump
"This is a multi-center prospective cohort study of 5376 pregnant women that underwent ultrasonography from 1997 to 2007. Trans-vaginal sonograms were performed in 22% of the patients at 6 weeks gestation, and Trans-abdominal sonograms were used at 18-20 weeks gestation, at this time the fetal gender were confirmed in 98-99%. The fetal sex was confirmed 100% after delivery. The study also addressed the bicornuate uteri with single pregnancy in relation to placenta / chorionic villi location. The result was tabulated according to gender and placenta / chorionic villi location. Bicornuate uteri with single fetus in different horns were studied and tabulated
Result
Dramatic differences were detected in chorionic villi / placental location according to gender. 97.2% of the male fetuses had a chorionic villi/placenta location on the right side of the uterus whereas, 2.4% had a chorionic villi/placenta location to the left of the uterus. On the other hand 97.5% of female fetuses had a chorionic villi/placenta location to the left of the uterus whereas, 2.7% had their chorionic villi/placenta location to the right side of the uterus. 127 cases were found to involve bicornuate uteri with single foetuses, most male fetuses were located in the right horn of the uterus and showed right placental laterality (70%). Most female fetuses 59% on the other hand, were located in the left horn and showed left laterality (59%).Moreover, most of the males located in the left horn exhibited right laterality (89%). Also most females located in right horn exhibited left laterality (976.4%). In addition this research indicated that there was a possible link between renal pyelectasis and placental location, and it might be used as a genetic soft marker.
Conclusion
Ramzi’s method is using placenta /chorionic villi location as a marker for fetal gender detection at 6 weeks gestation was found to be highly reliable. This method correctly predicts the fetus gender in 97.2% of males and 97.5% of females early in the first trimester. And it might be helpful to use as a genetic soft marker in relation with fetal pyelectasis.
In simple terms-
*placenta located on right- 97.2% chance it is a boy
*placenta located on left- 97.5% chance it is a girl
*in a bicornate uterus- 70% males implanted on right with right placental laterality; 59% implanted on left were female with left laterality
*those males that implanted on the left- exhibited right laterality 89% of the time.
*those females that implanted on the right exhibited left laterality of the time.
http://www.obgyn.net/ultrasound/ultr...ental_location
havnt heard that one deaks - off to google i know i o'd from my right ovary as the private scan showed the cyst that side x although it felt like left to me lol. Dont know which side placenta was to baby either! FX FX i get a nub shot and its girlie of course!
tamara on IG says this is debunked - phew lol
I don't think it's debunked but it's not set in stone either - of course you could have ovulated from the right / have placenta on the right and still get a girl. Don't worry!
Sounds like my house !!Quote:
Originally Posted by maybebabythree
I realised i didn't answer your question the other day, I am part ukranian, my dads parents are both ukranian and were born there but my dad was born here :)
yes the ramzi theory is very flawed! the only way to know for sure where the placenta has attached is to use colour doppler to establish where the blood flow is and that is not recommended at such early gestation. I wouldn't fret over this theory. My bean was attached in the middle bottom and on IG they went on about how it's much more common for boys to attach to the bottom while girls attach to the top so, yes as you can imagine i was obsessing after that thinking i had no chance of having a girl. This theory is just for fun and not set in stone
depressed myself by looking at girls clothes in the zara sale.....step away from the computer....
Hi everyone......
We arrived at Kirkbymoorside today, lovely place. Boys all in bed and I'm enjoying cheese and crackers :)
Chocolate - pleased your scan went well :)
Deaks - pleased you liked your SS :) GL in 2ww!
Maybe - lol at how much stuff you've got, there is never enough space however big your house is :)
Sunset - pleased everything is looking good, will you still be induced or can you wait for natural labour now? Are you all ready to bring your little girl home? :)
Inglewood - wow that's amazing to hear a defo girl..... You must be sooooo pleased to hear it again!!
Charlie - hope you get a good nub shot :) I'm feeling much the same really, not been sick since last week but still feel sick. I'm managing to eat more variety of foods now which is nice. I'm full of cold though and evenings are still tough going....I feel very tired all day too and not forgetting the awful migraines and insomnia!!...pleased to be nearly half way as my body just doesn't like being pg!!! Apart from that I'm ok...LOL ;)
How are you feeling? Enjoy your scan :)
Hi to everyone else :)
Xxx
Ive not read much about the ramzi theory apart from that link, do you think its not worth asking where bubs has embedded? I would just presume placenta would attach around the same place as bubs so as long as it was not near the middle then I would think it would be obvious left or right from where baby was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunset
Hmm, maybe I wont ask about this at the scan as dont want to put any belief in it incase it convinced me of a certain gender as Ill prob. stick with what that indicates lol. I usually ovulate on my left but this month is felt like both and at times def. the right so have no idea going on that theory lol.
Not even sure Ill look into the nub, just dont want to get one gender stuck into my head you know, especially as not finding out.
I was also going to say: Charlie I have bought a girly dress already!!! I hope thats a good sign as thats not like me at all! In my head I said its for Niece who is due in March, but I wont even know what Im having so wont give it to her just in case lol. I nearly put it back but Ive hidden it in the chest of drawers just in case I ever need it, then if not I will charity shop it.
Can't wait to guess the nub!
chocolate ~ there's a good thread about it on ingender by Alsestis :agree: I think it's definitely worth asking for a bit of fun, but for me it ended up stressing me out more than anything lol. from what i've heard the corpus luteum is usually next to baby, but this isn't always the case so the only true way to confirm this is by using colour doppler to establish the blood flow. You also have take into account the orientation of the scan, and ask the sonographer which side is left and which side is right on your u/s pic. unfortunately however I have been told alot of sonographers are very dismissive of the ramzi theory and not willing to give out this information, a bit perhaps like some get when you mention the nub theory.. if you're curious it's definitely worth asking where the placenta has attached, there's no harm in asking :)
Babymad ~ glad to hear you're feeling better :) nearly half way, how exciting! I'm seeing the consultant next week to discuss delivery, but from what I can understand, if my condition doesn't get worse they will most likely let me go into labour naturally. That's what i'm hoping for anyway :)
i brought a pink and a blue onesie in the sale for ds3 before i knew....it broke my heart but i gave the pink one to a friend when she had a girl.
Tlm - dhs dads family are irish and his step mum is Irish. Fil is the only one out of his siblings not born in cork but they they are a very Irish lot! I have a lovely Irish surname. Luckily the only traditional thing for them is big family dos and drinking way to much!
Babymad - glad your feeling better!
Charlie- Zara do lovely boys things too! I have lots of girlie things which I am going to eBay. If I do ivf ever then I would buy it again.
I so want to declutter and move! I think mainly right now as it would stop all thoughs of ivf hee hee! I would have six kids if I had a nanny! Four boys and two girls I think, and be 15 years younger to have the energy to cope!
They do maybe - i HAVE to get ds1 jeans from there is 6 and a half and is v skinny and v petite and wears a 3-4 jean from there! They are the only shop that make them slim enough for him x DH got ds3 a lovely outfit for xmas from zara, but was online looking for jeans in the sale for the boys and up popped some beautiful dresses - something i would totally buy if i had a girl.......ouch!
chocolate - i truelly hope you get to dress you DD in that dress x
Hi girls,
Sunset, glad you are feeling better and can have a natural delivery, are you all ready for your little princess?
Inglewood, yey for one baby still being a girl :-) time is flying, looking forward to seeing your 4d scan pics :-)
Babymad, have a fab holiday, im soo dying to know if you have a little girl or boy cooking in there, you sure you're not gonna find out? LOL.
Maybe, ive sent you an email, some pics of ds3 as i know your not on fb and im so rubblish at getting round to figuring out how to upload pics on here! Hope little Dave is coming along nicely :-)
Thanks for all your comments, some people just baffle me with their crap.
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Hi ladies,
Wishing u all a belated merry Christmas lol hope u all had a fab crimbo, I've had no time to come online resently, but think I've more or less caught up wiv everthing :)
Hope everyone is well?
Chocolate congrats on your pregnancy fx for a healthy sticky pink bean......how exciting!
Well my sil had her baby girl last night.....amelia rose (one of my girl names) I'm so happy for them but feeling abit sad at the same time! After my bro rang my hubby gave me a hug and said 'next time it will be us' bless him, he's so supportive at times :) I do hope he's right all I know is my GD is raging badly 2day and for the 1st time I'm broody gonna hold off ttc till march tho so I can get cracking wiv the diet ect......anyhoo have a good day ladies xx
Morning ladies! :)
Petal ~ as long as my pre-eclampsia doesn't get worse.. im feeling cautiosuly optimistic! I'm definitely ready to bring her home now and to start wearing normal clothes again! i'm big as a house at the moment lol i'm going to a wedding in 9 days and i have no idea what to wear or if i'll still be pregnant then :p how old is your ds3 now? how's he sleeping for you? are you breast or bottle feeding? :)
Maybebaby ~ my FIL is irish too! the big family dos and the amount of alcohol involved really petrifies me :rofl: must certainly be an irish thing?
Charliespy ~ I admire you for giving the onesie to your friend! that was very strong of you! I could never have given my girly stuff away to someone else, that would have felt like giving up on the dream iykwim although i know it's just as simple to buy new stuff. I so hope you're having a little girl this time! can't believe you're making us all wait, we're so excited to find out :D what does your gut instinct tell you?
oh hun it's so hard when friends and especially family get their DG! and it must be even harder when she's using one of your girl names.. ((hugs)) just think though, soon you might have your own little girl! fx xxx!! just know we're all here whenever you need to rant!Quote:
Originally Posted by homebirthing princess
homebirthing princess, Id feel happy and deflated at the same time, I feel like that when I hear of friends having girls and hate myself for feeling like that.
Maybebabythree, I try and keep the disappointment away of thinking I may never have a girl by saying, 'but we may win the lottery and move to a big house and then I can have lots of kids and surely have a girl then too' lol!! I can dream!
Sunset, I think Id torture myself over the gender predictions from the ramzi theory and even the nub and skull theories so I think Ill leave it. Id love to know if it were def. a girl, but wouldn't want to know till birth if it were a boy as know Ill just be so happy to have him in my arms so wouldn't be worth a few months of possibly feeling a bit disheartened about not having a girl.
Good luck today Charlie xx
Morning,
I ended up going to bed at 7pm last night as I felt really sick!
Feel a bit better this am still a little on the nauseous side.
I'm also a sucker for girls clothes my eyes always get drawn to them first in shops. I did get a few nice jumpers for DS1 in the sale yesterday though.
Homebirthing princess I don't think i'm telling anyone my names this time round as I don't want to not be able to use them incase someone pips me to the post! On the sunny side she has a name that you love and think fondly of. Your husband sounds very sweet.
Chocolate Ramzi's theory sounds like fun. I think it's like the nub thing it's not a 100% but can give a good indication that could ultimately go the other way at the gender scan so it's weather your ok with that?
Hope you all have a good day. Can't believe it's all back to school soon! getting far to used to the 9 O'clock lay-ins and so are the boys!
Charliespy ~ what time is your scan? good luck!!!!! :)
Chocolate ~ are you staying team green? :p i can't believe how many smog ladies are waiting to find out until the birth, the curiousity is killing me :D i don't understand how i ever managed to stay team green twice with the boys lol i'm clearly getting weak haha
Lavenderlime ~ I hope you feel better soon! i'm not looking forward to the school runs, i quite enjoy the lazy mornings at the moment :)
scan is at 1.50!! Wish it was earlier! Got to drive and pick up DH then head to hospital.....eeeeeeeee
sunset - i HAD to give the pink onesie away to me having something pink was like a jinx....never to have a girl if that makes sense lol I have decided all going well at about 36 I will go and buy a 3 pack of blue babygrows, and get DH to get a 3 pack of pink ones - that way when/if they have to be returned I wont have to do it - would hate to have a girl and no pink to put her in. My instincts arent great as i am biased ds1 i thought girl for sure, ds2 i did think boy ds3 girl and this one i dont know i swing.....i pray girl i think girl but then i think i am not that lucky!
Lavender hope the sickness is a start of your BFP!! FX
Deaks FX for yours too
HBprincess - huge huge hugs its so hard i hope you dont find today so tough..... i know my sisters will have girls i know they will and that will hurt x Bless DH x x
Meant to ask what did everyone get for xmas??? Hope you got spoilt in love and hugs and some goodies!
I got cath-ed to the max :D a jumper cutlery and a bag, my mum and her BF got me a coat i had already picked, dad gave me money and the boys got me lush bath bombs
Good luck Charlie! :)
Sunset there's no way I can stay team green in to impatient lol
I got pandora charms for Christmas, all silver, letter T from tommy, litter C from Charlie, a snowflake with a gem from oh's tommy, a baby carriage from ' the baby in my belly' and a round one with pearl hearts over it from dp.
Money from dad, nan and dp's parents. Smellies from my sisters and a massive fruit and nut toblerone nom nom. That's it I think.
Charlie I'm so excited for you I always get butterflies in my stomach before scans. Please ask for a nub shot, they may give you a funny look but hay you'll probably never see them again :D. Or they may be really interested that you asked for one, who knows?!
I so hope it's a sign of a bfp. but will wait till tomorrow to test or even Saturday if I can! Might go and order some first response's now.
I got vouchers which I spent yesterday, alas nothing I liked in the sale but got some Raspberry pink jeans (not really a pink person but these were too amazing not to get and will look lovely in spring) and a new purse. Some CD's a few books one on sewing and the post secret books I asked after. Some clinique face cream as i'm 25 next week and prevention is better than cure :D!
New sewing box. Smellies, socks, nice necklace from my sister, massive zip up laundry bag which is amazing and has a lovely print on it. And money from DP's grandparents which will help to clear the Xmas overdraft thank god. And Chocolate.
Charlie DP has got me a few bits from Cath online in the sale for my Birthday (that I picked!! of course ;))
Aw thanx every1 I love that I can come on here and u all just except what I say and not judge me :) feeling deflated 2day so we're all going 4 a walk in woods 2 clear r heads..... I have 2 say I think nxt time round I'm staying on the green team I don't blame u guys who r not wanting 2 know the sex of bubs...altho saying that I will prob drive myself crazy wanting 2 know lol! I blame my mum for telling them my girl name she knows about my gd to that's what makes it worse! Anyway my neice is gorgeous and a much needed girl for our family, we r over run wiv boys haha! Xx
Kell what lovely crimbo prezzies u got :) x
Good luck for 2day Charlie xx
Ooh i was in Cambridge shopping on the 27th, maybe we passed each other, lol. You would certainly have needed lunch after 4 hours shopping!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kell
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Still feeling sick also have a dull ache on my left side bit like af and in the same place where i've been having sharp short crampy pains a few days ago and a few days before that. Gave in and tested on an internet cheapie and bfn.
Hope it's just too early.
Charlie can't wait to see your little bean!
Charlie, can't believe your 13 weeks already! Everyones pregnancies seem to be going quickly. Can't wait to hear about your scan
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Really hoping you get a bfp... the symptoms all sound good! XQuote:
Originally Posted by Lavenderlime
hi ladies, hope you all had a lovely christmas, this is first time i have had 5 mins to myself...its been a hectic but great one.
Dad is on the mend and i have finally managed re-unitemy nan back into the family (after silly family break down which lasted about 2 years).
Looking forward to the new year now to start diet and taking supps in prep for ttc in march :D
Charlie - hope scan went well, i love looking at scans just amazing.
Lavander - fx you get a bfp maybe too early to pick up, hope AF doesnt show xxx
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Here we go ladies x Button measuring in at 13wks 3 days :D all good bar having to have 2 scans with different sonographers lots of prodding poking moving more prodding more poking to try and get the NT measurements but they finally got there. We got to see lots of button too! No sign of any nub though!! Not on the pic and not on the scan - however the potty shot looked rather boy like :S 3 mounds the middle bit poking out more.......so no nub to guess on just skull shape and my description of its potty shot!
one only different from ds2 and ds3 i measured a week infront with both of them and bigger baby - this time 1 day bigger and just below average.....