UK SMOG Wannabes ~ December

Charlie - Id do the same with searching for potty shots which is why Im going to try to be really good and not look and not post pics to ask gender as I know if someone says 'boy Ill be like 'thats it, Im having a boy for sure'

Lavenderlime hope they have them in stock I had to ask them to get an extra one out as there wasnt enough for the bogof, she said they sell so quickly they have to keep some asside!

Maybe - we moved from a 2 double bedroomed semi to a 3 bed semi which has a converted loft room, but getting to it is a pain as its through the smallest room so would make the smallest room extra small if we had stairs up to it again, hoping we can put some up there via the extra bit in our room. No room to extend either Im afraid, but we do have a bigger garden and get this - we have one of those log cabin things! has 2 sides but full of junk!! Came with the house and I do dream of decluttering and turning it into a childs play room or my OH and the boys tc room lol.

Charlie - you're like me, I got SO obsessed with trying to guess baby's gender after my NT scan. Before that I really didn't want to see a nub photo and was going to try and wait until birth to find out - of course in the end I booked a private gender scan at 16 weeks so I went completely the other way! It was just driving me too mad wondering.

Lavender - I think sickness in the 2ww is something to do with progesterone? I felt very sick with this one in the 2ww and with the others it was the only time I felt sick during pregnancy! This was the only pregnancy I had loads of symptoms and had that 'feeling' I was pregnant.

We used to have a 4 bed detached house but we moved to a little cottage! We didn't like the area our old house was in (it was on a new housing estate) and we love where we live now, in a village on the edge of a town so we can walk in to the country in one direction and in to town in the other and the town is lovely, full of gift-type shops and coffee shops. I get so excited when somebody has a birthday because I can go around all the little shops and buy something! Our cottage was 2 beds when we moved in but we did an extension late last year. We wanted 4 bedrooms but the conservation officer made a fuss about our planning application and we ended up with 3 bedrooms and a much bigger downstairs. It's still not big (probably not really big enough for our family!) but we love it - the 3 biggest boys share a room and DS3 and the new baby will share when she moves out of our room. DS3 could go in with his big brothers as their room is a good size but I'd rather they were in pairs, we'll have to see if they both fit in DS3's small bedroom! I'm thinking of having some small size bunk beds made for them :D Even though it's completely crazy and hectic I love that there are so many of us all bundling in together. I'm sure the boys will feel differently when they're teenagers and we may let one of them move downstairs to our 'den' at that point - though I'm already worried about him climbing in and out the window during the night, I'd be terrible in a bungalow!!

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Right make me step away from the computer now.....so much for team green lol pretty much convinced this is a boy now.....ho hum

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Me Devil on Charlie's shoulder:

Book an early gender scan for in 3 weeks and the speculation will be over :D!

Z sounds like my dream home will have to find a ebay seller for you i saved it as they make triple bunks but also short bunks to your specifications which is what i think we will end up getting x

i will have to not look at all st my 20wk scan ad i don't purposely look i think i must be good at watching scans dh had no clue when it was obvious to me ds 2&3

Yes please Charlie though may be the same place I've found! One of my friends from another site just got her eldest three a tripple bunk - but our ceilings are too low!! You can get cotbed sized bunkbeds that are so cute for not a lot of money :D

We have a 3 bed modern house dh wanted new build now we both want old! Plan to have 2 in each room with aim to move when we can afford it.....4 yrs or so

Do you know I didn't even think about triple bunks this may be they route we go so all the boys have a bed, I know realistically we will be here for a few months while baby is little.
Just had a quick look I quite like the look of this one http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/vie...id=86509861309
I think they would separate out quite easily once we get a bigger house rather than the metal framed ones that can't be changed.

We live in a three bed semi. So we'll move the boys into DS's room and get bunk beds but I'm really sad as I lOVE ds's bed it's an iron bed, re-powder coated in a glossy red paint and from a de-serviced Navy ship it's so high he needs a step stool to get in! It's amazing.

I really want the bunk bed version but because it was from an antique shop the reality of finding one is slim! The couple who sold me the bed just specialise in antique childrens beds so have my name on the list if they ever come across one.

DP is insistant we need a 4 bed detached but I think we've still got another 4 years left in this house. Plus I love the village and type of house we want costs about £400-£500k in our area. So we'd need a big winfall! Or for me to get a full time job so we could get a better morgage. Sighhh we'll at least i've got 4 years to save, ponder and play the lottery!

This is the site I've found for bunkbeds:

Bunk beds our many styles

Do any of your children already share rooms? My eldest two are incredibly close and I'm glad they share a room because I think that's part of the reason - but they don't sleep half as well as they did when they had separate rooms!!

My boys have their own rooms right now, they will probably share in about 18 months time when the next one needs to vacate our room lol, but then I may put the 2 youngest together - not sure, just worry they will disturb each other. Also thought about bunk beds but wonder if it would disturb them when one rolls over. Like the cabin beds but I think the smallest room won't fit 2 of those in unless I convince my OH to swap rooms so the boys can have the master room with en-suite and us have the smallest but would be a squeeze getting our king size in there. We need a 6 or 7 bed detached ha ha!

Hi everyone......dreadful signal here so just wanted to say Hi and great scan pic Charlie :)
Hope everyone is well and enjoying the festive break xxx

HI Ladies

Hope you are all well, lavendar it all sounds very promising hope you get a BFP so very soon!!

Who else is testing too?

We live in a three bed semi (feel very sorry for my neigbours!!) Three boys share a room but DS1 who is 8 keeps asking for his own room, dd has her own room, I would like to either move or extend but both options are incredibly expensive, we did convert the garage to a play room and so I supose in a few years time when DS1 is older I'd maybe let him have it but I'd be nervous about him sleeping away from everyone else!! There is a five bed house gone up for sale just around the corner from us for 179,999 started out at 205,999 and even thats unheard of trying to figure out why its so cheap!! Most four bed houses are at least 225,000, it did start out as a 3 bed but has been extended, its the first on a cul de sac off quite a busy road and close by to some shops so may be thats why its so cheap?! Thing is if I had a 5 bed I'd probably end up with another baby feeling so broody at the min!!!

My boys have their own rooms but prefer to be together top and tailing in the bottom of the bunk bed! Very cute and totally up to them. I think baby will go in ds1s bedroom but as that's the box room dh has built a cabin bed over the slope of the stairs so the bed has to stay. If I moved I would have room for another baby! But I really want another living room. I am looking at a place where they have converted the garage and extended it along the side of the house. Oh to have a adult sitting room and a family living room!! But who am I kidding - it would be more room for Lego...

lots of housing chatter :) DH and I are just renting. We're in a 3 bed house and we'll move the boys in together when the time comes - they are currently in seperate rooms. Over here most houses are single storey. Would love our own house but its just hard while I'm not working and we need at least a 3 bed place.

We were discussing boys names the other day (again!) and we are stumped. I think we're running out of names that we agree on. I've decided we're having a boy by the way. :) We have a while before we have to seriously think about names!!

Just booked our summer holiday - we're going camping by the beach towards the end of Jan. Looking forward to it. The boys will love it.

its 8.30 and Ernie is STILL asleep! He was up at 4am for an hour and kept getting up! arghh. I'm up early still because Percy woke up at his usual 6.30am :P DH never gets up in the night to deal with the boys! Grrrrr....

oh and hope everyone has a Happy New Year!!!!! No plans here... :) Funnily enough nobody wants to babysit on new years eve... and I think I'll want an early night :) What a party animal I am these days....

Omg I'm so tired, we went to my dads girlfriends for dinner last night, Charlie was running round the whole time he had a great time, didn't get back till after 10, I put him straight to bed and he had an awful nights sleep! I ended up on the boys bottom bunk because dp was snoring so bad, only had a silly blanket because he decided to walk the dog and not keep her out the kids room where she decided to plonk herself on the quilt on the bed.
So I've had about 3-4 hours sleep and I'm in a great mood! Happy days! :)
I'm going to wake dp up I can't take it.

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Omg I'm so tired, we went to my dads girlfriends for dinner last night, Charlie was running round the whole time he had a great time, didn't get back till after 10, I put him straight to bed and he had an awful nights sleep! I ended up on the boys bottom bunk because dp was snoring so bad, only had a silly blanket because he decided to walk the dog and not keep her out the kids room where she decided to plonk herself on the quilt on the bed.
So I've had about 3-4 hours sleep and I'm in a great mood! Happy days! :)
I'm going to wake dp up I can't take it.

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Kell Definately get him up!!!

I'm quite fortunate with my DH he does get up to the boys but thats because I get up to DD who is an awful sleeper, always has been has never slept through yet and she is 19mths soon!!!

ARGHHHH!!! lost my post!!!

I'm in a 2 bed detached bungalow/cottage type. Huge garden thankfully as we are on the main road full of HGV traffic! Wasn't as bad as it is now when we moved here, or we both agreed we wouldn't of bought it. We totally overpaid for the house and now we have prob lost around 15-20K in 4 yrs, which is a shame as we put alot of the £ we made from our last sale to buy this place and now we will have to take what we get, thankfully won't be in -ve equity, but can't afford to increase our mortagage!! We have spend around 10k of our own £ doing up the house, which we won't get back either.

Z, both my boys have shared since they were 4 and 9mths and I wouldn't have it any other way as ds2 is a FAB sleeper having his big bruv in the room with him and hopefully the twins are the same! Ds1 was never out our bed, ds2 has rarely been in our bed unless he's unwell.

Well, my dad almost here. He's watchimg boys to let me sleep a while as it's Dh's b'day and we are going to see Puss in Boots later in 3d at the cinema (Dh's request..lol) Was nightshift.

Lavender, I think u'll get ur BFP! days ago u said u felt sicky and I remember thinking "ahh....she's pg" so FX a New yr BFP would be great!

Deaks when will you test?

Hope ur all well? Will pop on later after my snooze.... getting bleery eyes! xx

HUGS kell - i too had a crap nights sleep - DH woke me up twice to tell me he felt ill......??? DS2 then woke up then ds1 and inbetween being woken up found it hard to get back to sleep as all i can see is that bloody penis looking like thing i saw on my scan.......I cant see that turning into anything girl like, am gutted i saw it i didnt think it would be at all obvious this early on :(

Happy new year to you all :HH: what's everyone doing today? we haven't got much planned at all, and dh's parents haven't offered to babysit as per usual even though i know they haven't got any plans. so it will be a quiet evening for us. Thinking of buying some fireworks to let off tonight with the boys, but no other plans

We live in a 4 bed town house (new build) which we rent and my 2 boys share a room. We do have the space for them to have their separate rooms if we wanted to but they love sharing a room and sleep so much better because of it. DS1 always used to have sleep problems until we moved ds2 into his room and now they both sleep soundly every night. I know most people think i'm crazy when i say this, but we've decided to let dd share room with the boys as well for the first few years, simply because I think it's made my boys feel so much safer at night not sleeping in a room on their own and besides, they have so much fun and i wouldnt want dd missing out just because she's a girl and they're boys.

charlie - try not to stress yourself about it. Although I'm being a bit of a hypocrite as I did that after my scan. Although after posting my video everyone said boy and there are 2 really clear boy nub shots :P hence I'm convinced I have a boy. If all you saw was a potty shot... don't stress. Its WAY too early to use potty shots as an indication of gender. Look at this site... the pictures of the bubbas genitals look soooo similar at 11 wks pregnant!! Embryo Development external genital sex organs - angle of the dangle boy or girl ultrasound gender scan - Baby2see

Oh dear - sounds like there are a lot of tired people here today!!! Hope some of you manage to get naps!!

Anyhews - happy new year to everyone... only just over 3 hours to go here :D

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HUGS kell - i too had a crap nights sleep - DH woke me up twice to tell me he felt ill......??? DS2 then woke up then ds1 and inbetween being woken up found it hard to get back to sleep as all i can see is that bloody penis looking like thing i saw on my scan.......I cant see that turning into anything girl like, am gutted i saw it i didnt think it would be at all obvious this early on :(

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oh hun i know it doesn't make you feel better, but 13 weeks really is too early! the nub is still visible at that point which would make a potty shot look boy-ish. girls and boys do look so much alike at that gestation!!! your little bubs could well still be a girl, please try not to get too upset hun :hug2:

THANKYOU x I still feel like i am out but the love and hugs mean alot x I love my 3 little boys just feel so alone in my home at times I just wished that I was going to be one of the lucky ones. I have seen so many 13wk potty shots that are boy or girl and am sure mine looks more like boy. Wish i was still in ignorant bliss!! I know it could change but I dont want to hope too much.

Hope you all have a lovely New year whatever you have planned x heres to 2012 being FAB

Pinga - camping sounds fab, we went before having the kids but not since, not sure Ill want to do it though until our youngest is at least 3, and not whilst pregnant lol.

Kell, hope your DP got up, mine got up at 7am with the kids and I got up at 930am :) as havent slept well for 2 nights, sods law as Isaid the night before that I was sleeping so well and so easily lol

Inglewood, enjoy the cinema later, out of interest did you suspect twins early on? Any signs? I keep having these twins dreams and only imagine twins,wierd!

Maybe- yes Id love an adult room and a separate family room!

Sunset - I think its lovely for siblings to share, I think it makes them closer and more tolerable to each other and better at sharing. Ive seen some L shaped bunk beds which look pretty cool, means the bottom is seperate from the top so if one moves the one underneath doesnt rock lol. Maybe I could do the same design but with a cabin bed and seperate single under neath

Charlie - I meant to say: I can completely understand why you are thinking boy, I would think that too (not by what you have seen) just because I am not a very positive person with myself and my dreams. Do you have any hope left for a girl? How do you feel? Just wondering if you are thinking 100% boy then maybe its best to find out? Then you can know for sure if boy or girl and be able to have time to think on it and then get excited. This is why I am not going to look at all at nubs/skull etc as one hint of a boy even without confirmation will have me think '100% boy and I may not enjoy the pregnancy as much.
However I think the skull of your bubs looks girly! And dont girls also have 3 mounds anyway the middle one being the nub which is always big to begin with and shrinks into the clitoris by about week 16?

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...spy/skulls.jpg

promise to stop whinging on now - god i am sorry but i hope you understand my freaking out i know you probably do!!!

thanks chocolate ((())) thank you all for putting up with my freaking out!!

baby 4 has more of a point at the top which if they have points girls are more at the top, boys by the eyebrows, your babies have great head shapes, cute lol! Itll be me freaking out soon lol. did that with ds2 but he had a very obvious boy nub! Which is why Im going to try so hard not to look at anything, easier said than done!

Chocolate, I had no idea there was 2 in there, although my 6wk 1d scan pic from when I was cramping showed 2 little white dots and my SIL when she saw the pic said that's twins and we all LAUGHED!!!! but since only 1 had a heart beat, the sonographer said only 1! I cramped badly with them boys early on and was really sick with ds2 (both 'can' be twin signs if severe). With dh being a twin, he always wondered, but I NEVER gave it a 2nd thought!!! lol I have actually kept alot better this pg than with ds2 from 14wks, think the huge weight loss pre-pg on my sway has helped!

Charlie, I think the skulls look different shapes? I'm no expert but try not stress, I went thru MANY stressful days and still do worry, but why don't u book a gender scan in a few wks to know either way?

Ar charlie i really feel for you hun! i will feel exactly same when it is eventually my turn. The skull is definately a different shape to your ds3's. Here is the link on IG about skull shapes in case you hadnt managed to find it...

For fun - Skull shape tells gender 92% accurate - In-Gender.com

Its not possible to determine whether a baby has a pointy head from a profile shot, but the prominent forehead definately looks girly in your shot :) But then charliecats on IG has stated that you cant determine gender from skull shape at this age and that it is just for fun.

Might be worth you having a gender scan to set your mind at rest either way. I wound myself up good and proper about ds2 but knowing one way or the other definately helped. Keeping my fx for a little girl for you! X

oh and charlie, my friends 15 week scan still had a very prominent clitorus bulge/nub and has since been confirmed girl :)

Grrrr great start to my new years eve, Dh been grumpy meaning we had an argument and now im totally fed up !!! sorry for the moan :(

:( hugs 3LM x x hope you manage to sort things before tonight x x

SOrry you guys are arguing! I'm gonna be honest I feel so tired and grumpy I'm surprised oh hasn't moaned at me yet!

Charlie I couldn't even begin to guess sex from any shot be that nub or potty or skull shape, I just haven't read up enough, I'm definatly going to find out the sex I nee to know so I can get things right in my head!
I've already told oh if it's a girl I'm going to spend a fortune on clothes after the scan!
Otherwise I'm gonna wallow in self pitty for a few days and once I'm over it I'll probably be ok! I think he will be more dissapointed with another boy than me to be honest!

I mentioned renting a bigger place and he just won't do it, I don't get it! Grr!

Well along with the tiredness has come the sick feeling, I'm gonna go nap and hope I feel a bit better after!

Happy new year ladies! Have a wonderful evening! x

Tlm sorry about your dh. Mine tries very hard but sometimes he just can't do anything right. He seems to be behaving with money right now. We looked for a new table yesterday in the sale and I pointed out that the 8 seater one we both liked was less than he owes on the cards. It's really hard to forgive him.

Happy new year everyone! Again it's my first sober one in about 20 years!

Just wanted to pop on here quick and wish u all a very happy new year...may 2012 bring us all lots of healthy babys :) xxx

Hi Just popping on to say Happy New Year! :HH:

Charlie~ just scanned through all the post to see your pic- beautiful bean!! Fingers crossed for you!

Haven't been on here much- still trying to get better from my Crohns flare. Hoping I can even try for January. Cutting it really close with trying to get off a steroid...Will see what happens

Didn't make the cinema, Dh home from work late....on his b'day too :( Booked for tomorrow night! He had a bad day at work and is VERY quiet, so 3LM, think my hogmany will be quiet too. Hope u guys make up before midnight!! xx

Aww Thanks girls for your support, I left the laptop open by mistake and DH walked into the kitchen saying if your gonna moan about me on a networking site what hope do I have ? OOOOPS !! Anyway things have settled now the problem was that I said he was becoming like his dad a very grumpy, stubborn old man and he said that was the worst thing I could ever have said to him and I had reallyn hurt him, late he came to me and said that he was sorry for upsetting me but that he was worried I was right and that he really would be like his dad, so we made up now and we having good evening, about to get takeaway!!

I just want to wish all you girls a fantastic evening and I'm praying next year brings you all everything you wish for :heart:

Happy New Year ladies! DS1 has asked to stay up until midnight so it'll be funny to see how long he lasts - unless I fall asleep first!

I've been in bed reading for most of the evening - I keep thinking I'm having period type pains but they're so mild I think I'm imagining it. I've felt a few kicks this week but not nearly enough for my liking and it's making me worry so every little niggle sends me in to a spin! On a positive note, DH and I have decided on a name for the baby. My favourite name is Phoebe and his is Sofia and my nan's name (Grace) has to be in there somewhere - so she'll either be Phoebe Sofia Grace or Sofia Phoebe Grace. We may wait until she's born to see which suits her best!

Oopsie threelittlemenandcounting!! Zanacal - gorgeous names! I had sofia on my girl list but that's my friends name. I have no girl name ideas at all, I don't think I would allow myself to think of any even late in pregnancy, if we were to have a girl I'd have to take a book and choose after birth lol! Good luck staying up!, hope the niggly pains settle down, its amazing what ourt bodies do so no suprise really that we get them! Happy new year everyone, I'm off to bed! Xx

Happy new year all :HH:

Managed to stay up tonight much to my surprise! Feeling a bit better today.

love to you all, praying you all have wonderful 2012 that are full of so many wonderful blessings you can't even imagine!

btw charlie those skull shapes are completely different! I totally understand your thinking and know I will be in exactly in the same position in a few weeks (God willing), obsessing and worrying etc. (((hugs)) we are here for you. There is still a lot of hope hun, honestly!