Due in December 2014 - Jan/Feb 2015

Haha Lala! My favorite was always "is he/she a good baby" when I had young one out in public. "Ummmm, no actually he is an asshole?!?" I never quite knew what to say to those questions. I don't really believe there are "bad" babies, so I just wanted to throw out that comment to throw people off (it works, BTW).

So glad your scan went well Abi! Sounds perfect.

I, too, tend to prefer to have some symptoms. And this time they are pretty scant and a bit come and go. Ill have a day of pretty intense nausea and then it will be much less the next day. It does "worry" me, only in the sense of losses. But I am trying to have faith. I did take another CBE weeks indicator (does everyone have those? The pregnancy tests that tell you how far along you are?) and it moved from 2-3 two days ago to 3+ today. So ill take that as a good sign. I guess I'll enjoy the lesser symptoms.

Anyone here still nursing a kiddo? I am just thinking about when to wean and wanted to see if anyone was in a similar boat. I prefer to not tandem nurse.

Hi ladies!

Have been away on holidays for a little over a week so trying to catch up here now!

Angie - happy to hear baby is doing good! Sorry about that insensitive comment - what would your college know?

Have any of you gotten a feeling of what gender the baby is even before 12 week scans?

I am convinced I am carrying another boy. Maybe it's the first scan (8 weeks, looked to be on the right side on the monitor, but I don't know if pic was flipped or not, and also think scan was sagittal, so I know I shouldn't put too much weight in that), maybe a kind of defense and a way of not getting my hopes up or just pure instinct.

Is there actually any truth in the right side = boy?

I think boy anyway but baby is 100% on my right as in a morning when I need a wee I have a lump where baby is and its always on the right side x

Hotdogz even the thoughts of tandem nursing sounds tiring The things us women have to do in life!
Glad you had a nice break Marika and all is well with you
Sorry dreamingofwin never heard of that theory before so can't comment!


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I think the ramzi theory is becoming less accurate than what we all first thought. It was right with my last baby but who knows. There are several ladies on here who had ramzi opposites.


Gosh ladies I somehow contracted pink eye!! So annoying! I hope it isn't dangerous for the baby?!

Poor Rosie! I've never heard of pink eye but I do think it might be an omen that your having a daughter if it's called PINK eye!! Hope it gets better soon x


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Hahaha daisy!! I like your thinking about the pink eye!

I have my first midwife appointment today...I will have them take a look at my eye and see what they say. There is a doctor in clinic if I need one. I'm excited to see if I get a scan or not today!

Hahaha daisymoo..love the analogy

So glad everything went well with your appt Abi! They say the earlier dating scans are the most accurate, so I suppose that's why they chose to use that one.

Sunflower, try not to worry about no symptoms yet. For me they didn't really kick into high gear until about week 6, so they could still be coming!

I'm not sure if my symptoms are less this time around or if I'm just managing them better, but they are definitely not as debilitating as last time so far. I finally bought some seabands, but now I remember my issue with them...they hurt my wrists I think more than they help the nausea, lol. I do not have petite wrists and they are a one size fits all. I can wear them for a couple of hours and then have to take them off to give my wrists a rest. I found this stuff called Divertigo that seems to be helping. It's an essential oil that you put behind your ears. I don't love the smell since it has lavender in it, but after a minute or so the smell basically goes away, but the nausea control seems to kick in.

So I spent the better part of my work day today researching prenatal vitamins and supplements. Working from home has it's perks, but I have a hard time not getting sidetracked sometimes with stuff like that and now I'm feeling stressed because I'm behind at work! Anyhoo, what supps are you ladies taking now that you have your BFPs? I decided on Vitamin Code Raw Prenatals, as well as their B-complex, plus a fish oil (coromega), and then additional B6 for morning sickness.

Oh, and the smell of poo...yeah...every time I go to drop my daughter off at her daycare that's all I smell, lol. I can't stand being in there anymore! So glad she's potty trained and we don't have to deal with that at home right now. I suppose that's one perk to having more space between the two :-)

And Rosie, sorry to hear about the pink eye! From what I've heard it's not that bad to have, but it's highly contagious and kids won't be allowed in school with it so be sure to keep your kiddos from getting it if possible!

Wow, I kinda feel like I checked out for the last few days! I just caught up with everything.

Angie - I am glad everything is better for you now!

Rosie - Oh no! Pink eye is such a nuisance!

I really got sick at the end of last week but I am feeling better now, thank goodness. I am getting used to the idea that I have to really think about what I eat or drink. If I think of a food that doesn't make me sick just thinking about it, that is usually a safe bet. It is really weird but not that I have resigned myself to this process, I think I might be sick less.

I have no clear thoughts on gender so far. I don't seem to be stressing about it one way or another. What I have been feeling is that this first trimester goes so slowly! I really want to be in the safe zone and get some energy back!

For the first trimester I went round the supermarket imagining eating the food and knew instantly if I'd be able to stomach it!! Never had that in any previous pregnancy x


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Best of luck today Rosie
Sorry to hear you were sick minifutureme and glad you're feeling better Not too long now til second trimester!
Crazycatcouple I am taking Pregnacare vitamins Have with all my other pregnancies too as they don't make me sick Thank god!!
Mrs Incredible what a great way of stopping yourself from being sick from certain foods Genius!!


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No scan but the internal exam was right on..it felt 8.5 weeks she said. My 13 week scan is scheduled for August 18th! I have to go make dinner now...will catch up more later!

Crazy cat couple- I'm taking the same prenatals with some additional D and iron as I run low on those and then probiotics when I remember:-) What sort of work do you do from home? I'm sure that's helpful for when you're feeling icky and pregnant.

How's everybody feeling about another impending labor? I can't seem to shake the fear of the pain even though I coped with it last time- that doesn't make it anymore fun. Lol. I keep trying to tell myself that it has to happen and there's no use worrying about it and if I did it the first time, I can do it again but so far, there isn't a day where I don't think about it. Ugh

Lala - I totally had a freak out about labor! Although I wanted an epidural with both my previous pregnancies it never actually worked out. Labor is exciting to me but the anticipation of that kind of pain freaks me out! I'm thinking of trying to pick up some hypnobabies concepts to try to relax me more during transition and for the hard labor.


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Rosie. .glad everything looks good - hope your pink eye heals soon. I have an appt at 8 week as well and ultrasound is included. ..

Now that I'm 6 weeks..symptoms are sorta hitting me. I cant tell if I have an upset stomach or jist feel nauseous.so far I had sorw boobs and complete loss of appetite along with bitter taste sometimes and very mild nausea in the beginning.

I'm actually soooo excited and looking forward to the the whole Labour experience since I never got that with my son. I'm looking forward to loads od kicks, sleepless nights and going full term..:-)

Rosie what do they check internally to know how far along you are? I find it really interesting as I haven't ever had an internal exam

Odd I also often have a bitter taste in my mouth too it actually makes me feel worse when it happens. Can't wait for the sickness to pass

Crazycat I take blackmores prenatal pregnancy vitamins, they are quite popular in Australia and luckily don't make me feel sick

Hope everyone is feeling well today. I'm still super tired from about noon onwards so I try make sure I do as much as I can from waking up to lunch time. My poor kiddies are getting use to being house bound!

Futureminime- good idea on hypno birthing research. I think I used some of their concepts in my last labor but who knows- it all goes out the window when things hurt that badly but I'll say this I held up just fine until 8 cm so I keep trying to remember that. Lol

Odd- What happened with your last pregnancy/labor?

I just have to confess and let it out. As much as I'm trying to convince myself otherwise, I do care and I am obsessing about every little detail and keep getting depressed thinking its another boy. I know it's wrong to think like thst but can't help it.

After having nearly perfect sway and attempt last month, and then having the miscarriage, completely threw me off. I went back and looked at my MFP and saw how ridiculousridiculously relaxed i was about eating...I can't help but think that i should just accept its a boy that my months of swaying and 'hard work' will be for nothing. I know all that matters is a healthy baby in the end..but I just can't shake these feelings off. Hopefully, admitting to myself by writing it will help.

Lala..same thing that greasemonkey is going through right now. Exact same situation with pre eclemsia, high blood pressure, fear of.stroke, baby born at 32 weeks. Not being able to breastfeed (my biggest regret) everything that possibly could ve gone wrong, it did in the end after having nearly perfect pregnancy.

Odd- that's terrible! Well I'll send good vibes your way- they say the 2nd time around your body knows better how to handle things so I'm sure it will go more smoothly. And as far as GD- it's hard not to feel that way and it's one of those things I'm sure will be nagging at you until you see your healthy baby, boy or girl, at which point you'll be the happiest, luckiest mama out there:-)

Odd I have similar feelings. I really really want a girl and I know my miscarriage was a girl...I could feel it. My sway was amazing and I'm scared the miscarriage ruined everything. I don't know if I will handle it very well if it comes out a boy. My hopes were too high from all this swaying so I'm trying to kick it down a notch and I have been talking like it's a boy but I really can't shake the feeling that it is a girl...I just don't want to end with a broken heart.

Internal exam is where they stick fingers up and them push down on the outside to find the top of the uterus. They can get a general sense of the uterus size that way.

Ill admit I'm super freaked out by labor. I guess only having 13 months out from my last labor has left it's mark ;) Not really, her labor was not too bad. But gosh it hurts. I am seriously, seriously considering going the epidural route this time around. My husband would be forever grateful (he hates labor, with good reason!). My last was kinda scary cause it was an abruption that was actually missed for 10 days (I know the day I abrupted, thankfully, it was a minor tear). So there was lots of blood loss and chaos as I was on my way to the OR for an emergency section when I started pushing. But, I know that even an epi would not have done anything for that labor (aside from maybe them deciding on the section sooner, since I did not have an epi placed, they were kinda trying to wait for anesthesia to be available). But I just don't want to do it again. Lol. Just let the baby come out painlessly and quickly.

I kinda think this baby might be a girl too. And I don't want to think that. I prefer to be neutral. I know it doesn't mean much, since I was dead wrong last time. And the time before (Haha). But it's hard to not lean one way or the other. I just prefer to not have a hunch. I think it kinda makes my girl desire a little stronger too. Which is weird. I don't mind either way, but thinking its a girl seems like setting myself up for disappointment (although I don't think I will be).

I'm a bit panicked for labor this time too. DD was an emergency c-section last August and this one is planned to be a VBAC. All my labors have been pretty uncomplicated until DD. She flipped breech when I was 8 cm and then my water broke before they could determine what position she was in and if I could deliver, try a version, or need a section. She came out feet first, got stuck, kinked the cord, and the placenta abrupted (a big risk with my clotting disorder). Since I have preterm labor I usually get blown off by the L&D staff when I go in and none have heard of my disorder. I'm worried about uterine rupture even though I know chances are less than 1%. A friend of mine had a uterine rupture without having had a prior c-section or uterine surgery. On top of that, I've been dreaming I give birth on Halloween, which would put me just under 34 weeks, which means another NICU baby. :(

rosie, hope your pink eye clears up soon. i hear it's pretty contagious too right? eesh. no fun.

odd, i had those same fears on and off before i found out the gender and prepped myself as much as i could for another boy. i think that helped me a bit before finding out. i hope you can keep your mind off til you find out! are you finding out soon?

lala, whenever i think about labor, i start getting the sweats... i did both, epidural with my first (and it was just a horrible experience)...and natural with my 2nd. i still kind of remember the pain (there's nothing like it huh?!!!) and i hope i can be strong/brave enough to give it another go with natural.

oncue and odd, i have kind of the opposite taste in my mouth. all sour every time after i eat, yuck. with my boys, i had a metallic taste but with this baby, sour and hoping for it go away...soon!

Belledandy do u know what u are having this time? With both my DDs I had a terrible sour taste in my mouth in the first trimester. I cld hardly eat, drink as it made the taste worse & always made my throat irritated that I wanted to vomit! Yes the bitter taste is awful and lingers, and I did have a metallic taste at around 6-7weeks but that has gone away, thankfully!

oncue, i'm having a girl this time around (according to Verifi blood test)! oooh, maybe you ARE carrying a boy!!!

looking back now..i can see the differences in this pregnancy vs with my boys and this taste is one of them in addition to the acne this time.

Congratulations! That's wonderful! I had a panorama blood test (apparently I'll be an old-age mama when I deliver at 35 haha!) so I will find out at the end of next week I think. It's so crazy to think a blood sample can give that much information.
Yeah I have noticed some differences, not major, but a few that my head is trying to convince me are a 'sign' haha. I think otherwise I am just accepting that this is another girl so that I am prepared for anything.

Thanks oncue! Me here, also "advanced maternal age" mama. I'll be a few months shy of 39 before she's born. I was ecstatic when the nurse told me the news over the phone. Still, I have moments of doubt, thinking "what if" I'm in the 1% error group? I guess I won't truly relax and make a baby announcement until after her 20 week scan.

I hope you get to hear healthy 'boy' for your result! It's going to be an anxious waiting game.

These were my words to the obstetrician 'if it's 99% accurate then someone has to be the 1%, it's likely to be me'. Hahaha I don't even know what the results are either.
I think the blood tests are more accurate than scans, so I'd feel pretty safe if I were u. I'll def let u know once I find out blood results too. It's definitely an anxious waiting game! Xo

Lala, I am the Director of Content for Pregnancy, Baby, Child Information, Parenting Community, EverydayFamily which is a preconception, pregnancy, and parenting website that my brother owns :-) I was an accountant in corporate America for many years before coming to work for my brother about 4 years ago, and I must say I feel extremely blessed. Not only do I get to work from home with and for my family, but my job also centers around pregnancy and parenting, which is what my life also centers around these days, so it makes for a fun and very relevant job, lol. Totally not trying to plug the site, but you ladies should check it out :-) I've even done weekly videos talking about your baby's growth and development both inside and outside the womb. You can check the pregnancy ones out here: Pregnancy Week by Week Those were the first videos I ever did though, so they are a little rough. I've done more since then and I think they've gotten better :-) You can also sign up for our weekly emails to get them sent to you if you want, and there are lots of sweepstakes you can enter to win free baby stuff! Anyhoo, sorry about the plug, lol, I really try not to do that, but I am proud of the company and what we do!

Rosie - I just saw a post on my local mommy group board talking about pink eye remedies. Supposedly breast milk in the eye will clear it up faster than almost anything. Not sure if you're still nursing, but I know breast milk can help with a lot of ailments, so it's probably worth a try!

As far as labor goes, I'm trying to stay positive about it. I was at a friend's house last night and she said that when she had her last recently, that the pain was way worse than she remembered it with her first two - not exactly what you want to hear, lol. But... I had a wonderful experience with my epidural the first time around and used to say that I would rather do that once a month for 9 months than be pregnant again :-) The birth part for me was exciting and fun in a way since everything went so smoothly and my epidural took well, yet didn't get in the way of me feeling enough to push effectively, etc. I'm hoping I can do the same thing this time around, but you never know I suppose.

Oh wow, those links were changed automatically to include the metadata. The company is just called EverydayFamily :-)

Crazycatcouple- that sounds like an awesome job! Also, just so you know I've been doing some reading on other forums and I would say 80-90% of women say their subsequent labors were easier and faster though of course, still painful. I really did have a beautiful experience going all natural, it's just scary to be in that much pain- hard getting past that hump. So hopefully your friend is one of the few and not the many- lol.

Sidenote crazycartcouple- I LOVE your daughter's name!

aaaaw, Crazycat! you are super cute in the video! You talk like you think that every single thing going on is adorable!! I love it. I only watched week 8 because that is where I am as of today. I love to look at all the different parenting websites! Thanks for sharing.

oh....also...my second labor was way easier than my first (although my first labor was pretty good too). It was much faster the second time around. I was seriously in the hospital for 20 minutes before ds2 was born and I didn't tear. I tore and bled quite a bit with my first. This time around I know that the parts of labor that hurt the worst will still hurt for sure, but I am hoping number three will be even easier!

Although I am now nervous that I might end up delivering in the car on the way. The hospital staff told me next time I just need to come in whether or not they sound like they are willing to admit me. I called when my contractions got more intense but they said they wanted me to wait until they were closer together.

This will be my fourth labor...I'm not nervous at all. I wasn't for my last one either. It was my second I was terrified for because he was my first vbac. Oh god was I scared. I could barely sleep the week before. My labors are under 6 hours start to finish but I start at 2 minute a part contractions so I always opt for the epidural since it's so freaking painful. I get back labor too and the pain is so much worse than front abdomen. I'm hoping to do the tub this time and see if I can make it longer. I'm using a midwife this time so maybe that will be helpful too.

Okay so when I have my ultrasound I will be 13 weeks and 1 day. Yikes! Perfect for a nub right? I kind of don't want to see it since we're doing team green. I feel like I might nubsess if I do. I think I will ask the lady to make sure there is no nub on the photo but then do I need to not watch at all either since it would pretty visible during the scan?? That kind of bums me out.

Thanks Lala! It was one of those names that just stuck with us for whatever reason. I actually first heard it on the movie "The Golden Compass" which is a kids movie, but not super popular.

And thank you Future :-) That week 8 video I was still so nervous on. I remember having to fly out to Utah to do the shoot. We shot all of the pregnancy week by weeks in 3 days. I had never been on camera before and thought there would be a prompter or something, but no, I had to just memorize each line before a take. I had also never met the guy who produced it or the camera man before, so that was a bit nerve wracking. Now I'm great friends with both of them, so it's much easier when we have to do video. You should see the blooper video the camera guy made for me after we were done - it was hilarious!!

And yes, you should probably rush to the hospital at the first sign of labor then! I'd hate for you to be like that woman who's birth video has been floating around FB. Her hubby flew to the hospital only to have her deliver on the sidewalk outside the entrance!

Rosie, a midwife is something I said I would try out this time, but yet here I am and still at my same practice which does not have midwives. I think I'm just too lazy to try and switch doctors at this point, and I pretty much know I'm going to end up with an epidural. I have a ton of friends who have given birth at birthing centers with midwives and had such beautiful experiences. But here, unless the center is attached to a hospital (which the local ones are not), you don't have the option of pain reliever at all at a center. I've heard fairly good things about the local hospital being supportive of natural birth though, but the rooms with tubs are on a first come first serve basis, so no guarantee :-( I hope your labor goes smoothly with the tub and you're able to hold out as long as makes you happy!!