i know how you feel PFP im doing the exact same im not sure if i O or not, did you get a temp dip at all this cycle ?
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i know how you feel PFP im doing the exact same im not sure if i O or not, did you get a temp dip at all this cycle ?
Honestly, I am not surprised you are feeling like this..only because I have seen every single one of us including myself start to critize our sways in the 2 ww. The truth is you did everything you COULD do to sway girl and get pregnant. I "know" you well enough by reading all your posts you are hard core about this (as am I, lol)...you did a FAB sway do not rip it apart. Doing increased attempts just increases chances of a BFP not of a boy. I will be in a straight jacket if I conceive a boy so we'll be confined together- no worries ;)
Oh and BTW my car smelt like burgers this morning. DH took my car to get them last night..really you have to be kidding!
what is with the left cramps could be girl and right cramps could be boy ?
Implantation dip perhaps? Temp can be so unreliable especially on clomid. My temp is all over the place, I think the clomid and last night took 2 tylenol because I was 99. This morning my temp was 97.5 usually my pre O temp and I def O'd with clomid and injection, so I wouldn't worry. DTD at O does not give you a boy. Recent study more girls conceived on O day, and the citrizine is no biggie especially being on clomid you shouldn't even be taking it!
Well said. Every single one of us questions our sway after the fact - I know I did all 3 times I've swayed and gotten pregnant. There's no such thing as a perfect sway anyway - we just have to do the best we can and leave the rest up to fate. Oh, and I'll be joining you ladies in the loony bin if this little bean ends up being a boy too :bigsmile:
Ramzi thoery. It states that if the placenta is on the left side of the uterus then its a girl and on the right is a boy. It is thought that if you ovulate on the left it is more likely to implant on the left hence a girl. Twinges on the left, implantation on the left -- more likely a girl.
Not sure how much we all believe it though.
why is it not very reliable ? have you heard conflicting stories ?
Because you can't tell on the basis of O pain what side you Oed from!!!
Also, the thing with Ramzi is, there may be something there BUT the problem is that 99% of ultrasound techs know nothing about it, do not know what you mean when you ask 'what side the placenta is on' (like, my right, or your right? :p) and also you have to have the u/s at a certain stage of pg, no later, or it is unreliable because the placenta moves. So all those things added together means that we get this grainy photo from a tech who has no clue what we're after and doesn't know what we're talking about and then it's just really hard to interpret how that matches up with Ramzi's theory.
Does Ramzi's theory only include placenta placement, or is it also linked to the side of ovulation? My ultrasound indicated that I ovulated from the left side (based on a corpus luteum cyst on my left ovary), though I have no clue where my placenta is.
Well i dont really believe that theory because with both my boys one was the right and the other was the left,and i know this because my doctor brought it up when i was pregnant with my second she specifically mentioned oh look its the other side this time ,as she keeps all my ultrasound records and looked it up for me,i find it hard to believe that gender would make it choose a certain side?Just seems strange,but i guess we cant really know right?
Oh, I agree, sweetsister - no theory is 100%. I've heard of women with only one tube who still have both genders. I was just curious if side of ovulation is part of Ramzi's theory or whether it's from another study.
DS1 was in the middle top area and DS2 was middle cervics area... so who knows what happened with me!
Thank you Mocha and Hope&Dream. You made me smile and its comforting to know someone understands. Everyone thinks I am looney and sometimes I think I am too.
Nope, has nothing to do with which side you ovulated from. People just assume that if you ovulate from the left it is most likely going to implant on the left/placenta will be on the left hence a girl. But you could ovulate form the right and it implants on the left. That is totally possible. His theory states nothing about which side you ovulate -- that is just a bunch of women conjuring up their own thoughts and opinion. It is all about: between 6-8 weeks of pregnancy, is the placenta on the left side of your uterus or the right?
Atomic is right, the u/s tech needs to know what is the right and left side of your uterus and not the mirror image or her left or right etc. It has to be YOUR left or YOUR right side. Most tech's do not care about theories, are grumpy and will not appease us of our curiosity properly. That does not mean you still can't try.
Tho I have to agree with Sweetsister and say that it is kinda wierd that gender can be determined by which side the placenta is on. As if the embryo knows its a girl and to go to the left side. I don't have much faith myself in good old Ramzi.
I agree 200% percent with Atomic & Pray for princess!
/waves to everyone else! Hope n Dreams LOVE your new ticker!!
LMN7... I started getting pains in my right side i think 6dpo then I was getting alot of pain in my left side ever since then... I forgot to mention my cm was different from about 6dpo aswell. I did get a few kind of yellowish blobs on the toilet paper which made me think AND my cm was just different down there in texture.
P4P, sorry to get muddled. So many seemed to be on clomid this month that I thought you were too! I think you did a brilliant sway. And your spotting sounds like implantation bleeding to me. I just know that once last year when it first happened to me I was convinced I was pg, and then I wasn't. Like Mocha said, just protect your heart a little in case. I will be jumping up and down with you and everyone else when you get your BFP.I don't like to say 'you so deserve it', because obviously everyone on here does, but after we read all that you have been through we just want it all to work out perfectly for you.
well i think the clomid is giving me side affects this time i keep having really hot flushes the last 2 nights and terrible sickness feeling the last 3 nights, never had that with the other 3 times i took it in the past, must be getting old lol,
thanks for clearing all that up about the ramzi and side of ovulation pain thing i thought they were linked but it seems there not,
I am in such a mood. I don't understand why I am doubting myself so badly. I feel I am totally pregnant it is just a matter of days before my bfp. Maybe I am not, but I would be surprised. And it feels so final. Like I will not even be that excited when I see the bfp because I know it is over, done, finished. I can't go back and change anything -- and if its a boy I need to accept that my dream will never come true and I don't know how to do that. Its like I don't want to know because I want to keep alive the hope that maybe one day I will have my daughter. Once I know, I will either be overjoyed beyond what any words can describe; or completely crushed knowing I will forever have a missing piece of myself. I love my boys more than words can say, but I will always hold a piece of me that will wonder what she looked like, how much she would have changed my boys and my husband and how much she would have just completed my life in a way no other can. I know you know what I am talking about -- it has nothing to do with what I have and everything to do with what I don't have. My girlfriend told me today -- look at all the sick and dying children in the hospital and just be grateful that is not you. I know that...don't you think i know that?? I feel like that has nothing to do with my desire for a daughter. Of course I would be grateful for a healthy boy, but that doe snot make me miss the daughter I will never have any less. She is having her 2nd girl in 1 month and she told me that she would have like to have a boy but she is not and it is what it is -- she can't change it so why dwell on it. Most people are like that but I am not. Some people want it but can move forward so easily without it. I want it more than words can describe, its like I need it -- and I can't so easily move forward without her.
Sorry to vent -- I am just feeling down. I know its silly and I pray I have a happy ending -- that we all do.
Hugs, pfp - we've all been there. This is definitely my last baby, and I'm terrified of the finality of it all.
Prayforprincess~ Its NOT silly..NOT silly at all. I could have written your post. Its annoying when friends make statements like that it doesn't actually help although I think they are trying to help. Our problems are all relative of course, someone else can and does have it worse but that does not minimize our problems. And honestly if your friend had two boys she may actually also have GD. I've meet many women that say if they had all boys they'd have GD but wouldn't if they had all girls. Point is she doesn't really know how she would feel.
And on another note I told my DH this a few days ago after I get my BFP I'm going to then be nervous about the gender, when it possible to detect the gender I will be shaking going into the doctors office.
Auoara~ thanks for noticing the ticker. I'm liking it too!!!
Littlemiss~ maybe because of the hot flashes is why your temp is all over the place.
Hello everyone else!
I too will feel the same way. It's why I have put off even considering trying because I could just leave it an open dream and have no regrets. But eventually they would be cause I would hit menopause and always wonder!! Remember you had to try to possibly get what you wanted and it's the only way to know! Lately I have been think when I try that I want a bfn so that I can just have what I have as I know what I already have is awesome and why mess with it!! I was at a friends last night and she now has 3 teenage stepsons. I was like if I get this bfp, that will be me! My gut tells me that but yet I feel the need to try! They were so cool though and the oldest was leaning on his youngest brothers shoulder on the couch lovingly and I thought who the hell cares what I get in the end! Three brothers will be pretty awesome!! I know I will be as nervous as you so I'll wait til he's born to find out! I wish you the pinkest bfp!!!
Hi ladies. sorry I haven't been posting much. I have been coming on and reading and keeping up with you. It is nice to know we all have the exact same feelings and can relate. I know what you are all going through and hope you all find the peace and contentment you deserve, (preferably through a dg). :hugs:
Ok this may sound ridiculous and I am totally not a symptom spotter but I have been beyond thirsty today- all day & last night had a little heart burn when I was going to bed. I O'd anywhere from Friday at noon to Friday midnight.
R these signs or am I bonkers to even think they could b related to a bfp in my near future!!
They could be hope&Dream. I am dying of thirst always. I drank 3 liters of water today.
I was sitting on the couch watching bachelor tonight and all I kept thinking about was how nervous I am to have another boy. 4 Boys!! I would want to still try for that girl only am almost positive I cannot because of already having 3 complicated c-sections. My ob was not psyched about me wanting a 4th but knew how badly I wanted a daughter. She warned me that this time there could be complications on the delivery table -- with myself, not the baby. I was willing to take that chance to have a daughter. I am sorry, I feel like I can't get this out of my mind now and I can't be happy about my bfp until I know it is her in there.
I feel just terrible for even thinking that. What is wrong with me?
I dont think its horrible you thinking that because I am keeping that secret too... You know I have already told myself its a boy... I just feel it naturally would be and i just would never have a girl!
PFP you are 100% exactly like me you just took all those words right out of my mouth, i feel smashed about my sway because it didnt go to plan, i wish i could take it all back and start again but i cant, why did i dtd on O day and why the hell didnt i take citirizine arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh, thats all i think about and the fact we dtd 4 times one 4-0, one on O, then O+1 and ive broke out in a huge spot this morning great just what i want thanks lol, and 0+3 as i thought i was O'ing late, but i can prob discard that last one, and prob the 0+4 as i used a whole app of rephresh in the am, only time will tell hey !
ok call me crazy but i just took a test and i think its a + !!!!!!!!!
OH WOW!! how many dpo are you?? was it a frer?
Oh I hope so LMN7. This is shaping up to be a good month! FX for you!
thanks guys im shaking lol, RF we abstained for 2 weeks, then on the 0-4 thinking it was O day he released at work and i TBM when i got home, then he di FR 2 x a day until our O attempt and the same on 0+12 and the 0+3 days attempt he FR 3 x that day,
il get my camera when i get home and take pics,
How exciting!! Cant wait to see
Littlemiss- yay yay yay yay. Can't wait to see a pic!! How many dpo are you! So excited :)
Congrats, littlemiss!!!!!