The Unintentional Swayers Pop Quiz:

Hmmn could it be because of a sense of enpowerment from arguing with DH? I'm a big believer in that it's not the act (in this case argueing) it's the way the act makes the woman feel.

If you argue with dh and feel unheard, victimised, hurt, powerless or whatever, then that would sway pink, where as if you argue and win, or at least feel like your point was heard and your opinion has been heard, then that would sway blue. Meaning that the same situation would sway differently for different women, but essentially for the same reasons. That's what I think anyway!

Hmmm interesting, my sister is the most stubborn, hard headed, argumentative, control freak I've ever met, and she has 4 girls and no boys! She fights with her DH all the time!

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Originally Posted by Thorz300

Hmmm interesting, my sister is the most stubborn, hard headed, argumentative, control freak I've ever met, and she has 4 girls and no boys! She fights with her DH all the time!

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Funny, you don't look like my sister. And she lives in Denver.

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Originally Posted by Thorz300

Hmmm interesting, my sister is the most stubborn, hard headed, argumentative, control freak I've ever met, and she has 4 girls and no boys! She fights with her DH all the time!

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Yep I'm not buying this arguing/mood sways stuff at all. Not sure how the thread ended up on this topic. I agree with atomic, it's about diet, maternal condition, sperm count (via frequency) etc. diet lowers t production, and sure a stressful job or fighting at home will raise t, but it's different for everyone and totally immeasurable and often out of our control. Lets focus on what we CAN do and measure.

Not to split hairs or be obsessive or grinding or anything ;) BUT have you read about the maternal dominance theory?

I'm not quite sure we CAN measure maternal condition, personally. I"m not quite sure we CAN measure sperm count either. (not in my kitchen anyway) I'm not quite sure testosterone has to do with anythiing at all...unless it is related to cortisol etc and how they all interact TOGETHER and for your individual chemistry..throw blood sugar in there as a cause and effect of stress/cortisol. Prob diff for EVERY person, so thats why swaying will never be a sure thing.

What we CAN measure is how interactions with others (ie a husband who you HAVE to see every day;) ) *possibly* can affect all the above^ factors by looking at your responses and state of being/mind by this person who is constantly there. Even possibly the environment in which you were raised, can affect your coping skills and thus how you respond to stress as an adult.

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Originally Posted by harleyquinn

Not to split hairs or be obsessive or grinding or anything ;) BUT have you read about the maternal dominance theory?

I'm not quite sure we CAN measure maternal condition, personally. I"m not quite sure we CAN measure sperm count either. (not in my kitchen anyway) I'm not quite sure testosterone has to do with anythiing at all...unless it is related to cortisol etc and how they all interact TOGETHER and for your individual chemistry..throw blood sugar in there as a cause and effect of stress/cortisol. Prob diff for EVERY person, so thats why swaying will never be a sure thing.

What we CAN measure is how interactions with others (ie a husband who you HAVE to see every day;) ) *possibly* can affect all the above^ factors by looking at your responses and state of being/mind by this person who is constantly there. Even possibly the environment in which you were raised, can affect your coping skills and thus how you respond to stress as an adult.

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I have, yes. Thing is, if maternal dominance and what you point out is true, I have two thoughts.

1. I'll have boys no matter what because I am a decision maker and highly organised etc, this probably makes me quite dominant. I will never change this so why sway?
2. Even assuming I'm not just naturally dominant, I never fight with my husband, ever, he makes me laugh and is such a complimentary opposite, I can't see how this theory would lead me to having boys.

My point was more the things I can change easily like diet and frequency and overall fertility or chances of conception are what I'm banking on. Not just because I believe atomic is right about them and the theories behind them, but because those are the things I was radically boy friendly on when I conceived ds 1 and 2.

But everyone is different.

This thread was supposed to just be me posting my swaying pop quiz for people to use and try out on their pregnant friends to see how accurate some of these theories may be. Mainly for fun. Also for people to add in questions to make the quiz even better. No idea how we got onto a swaying theory debate. ;-)

I don't see it as a debate at all...I see sharing experiences as improving information for all. :)

This WAS part of my pop quiz, because MAN...it has held true for FB friends but maybe there is something subconcious I am basing it on...but I really do great predictions based on personality alone.

I think YOU, have a complimentary opposite in a husband says alot...it completely supports my theory. (not debating hon :) )

And yes, I am totally with you on actually DOING what we can to sway...ie the diet, lower sperm count, change our hormones...but it can't hurt to change as well the way you respond to life circumstances. Thats why I think if you are suddenly overwhelmed in life (ie AS sway) you kinda change *who* you are. Thats why people spend so much energy trying to relax during a girl sway...if you aren't charged up all the time (ummm due to that fiance we married long ago LOL), it can help.

Idk...I have done the declined maternal condition(for 2 boys conceived at 95pounds), low PH, my husband has lower sperm count due to varicole, I have no signs of high testosterone...I can't help but wonder what else is at play here.

SO just keep the marital relationship in the pop quiz just for my sake and my streak of boys...LOL :)

I have been asking girl mums what they eat and one told me she usually eats a plate of broccoli if she cooks meat for her family. She also like coffee, chocolates and red wine.

A boy mum and co worker snacks all the time lol although she admits to smoking.

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Originally Posted by HopefulMonster

Hmmn could it be because of a sense of enpowerment from arguing with DH? I'm a big believer in that it's not the act (in this case argueing) it's the way the act makes the woman feel.

If you argue with dh and feel unheard, victimised, hurt, powerless or whatever, then that would sway pink, where as if you argue and win, or at least feel like your point was heard and your opinion has been heard, then that would sway blue. Meaning that the same situation would sway differently for different women, but essentially for the same reasons. That's what I think anyway!

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this was true for me :agree: I was actually kinda scared by DH a few times right before we got our DD. :s (not that I recommend it)

I think it has to go beyond just maternal condition because there are women who eat the exact same thing and have diff. genders - and there are women who weigh 85 lbs and have boys. Plus, I've talked with scads of people with all boys and all girls and even tho I can't describe it exactly *and won't try because people get offended* there is something there. Exceptions on both sides but there is something there. It is NOT that boy moms are bitchy and mannish and NOT that girl moms are weak or milksops. Not at all.

And I think it also has to go beyond maternal dominance because I know some women who are large and in charge and have all/mostly girls, who are living on Craisins and iceberg lettuce, including my mother who is kind of a bada$$.