Opinions needed please!

Atomic you are awesome! Thank you for all the explanations! It's so hard to let go of some things I got used to on ig like vaginal pH and dh release frequency! I would still prefer e7d I just hope it works out for us. We actually dtd Sunday and ended up dtd Wednesday too (so unintentional e4d haha) but are doing the 7 day abstain now so next bd will be Wednesday which is CD16! Hope I don't O before then but I'm doubting I will bc of my low cal intake and even with b6 regulating me last time I swayed I didn't o until cd17 or cd19. Hoping for cd17 this time of course (or cd16 I guess too). I agree if it's been 6 days since the last bd when I O then we will attempt. Wpuld it be smart to have dh release and then 6 hrs later make an attempt? I know it hasn't given great data but sperm count is hard for me to let go no guess.
Thank you for all the help you've given me and countless others!

Well, I invented the frequency pattern idea and so you should listen to me on that one LOL. :)

Case against pH is here if anyone wants to read it. https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...ph-pickle.html

Are you taking B6 now?? B6 is notorious for delaying ovulation and I think it sways blue anyway.

Re whether to have DH dump first batch and use only second, we don't ahve any hard evidence that it works, and it DOES really cut odds of conception a lot. Sometimes DH is not evne able to go the second time and this has caused people to miss whole months! So you have to ask yourself if it makes sense to take a chance on a sway tactic that is totally unproven when it will lower your odds of getting pregnant that first month coming off the BCP!

I am not on b6 now but last time before I took it I would o anywhere from cd15 to CD 23. When I took it I would usually O cd17 sometimes cd19. I'm still not sure if I would have dh dump the first batch and dtd 6 hrs later or not. Is it that hard to get pregnant right after bcp? I'm so fertile that we were always scared even if I missed 1!

Yes it's hard both to get pregnant coming off the BCP but also very very hard to conceive using the second batch (and just so you're clear, it's really meant to be more like after 1-3 hours; the 6 hours is the absolutely longest between rounds I consider to still be hurry up FR). So my concern is not that the BCP PLUS the hurry up FR will make it extra hard, my concern is that the hurry up FR will make it extra hard all on its own, and then you have missed your shot at conceiving that first month coming off the BCP and have missed out on that potential benefit. I hope that makes sense, it's a subtle difference I'm trying to express here. :)

Yes that makes sense. It's already hard why make it harder, right? If I don't get prego this time I might try the hurry up fr if I O before the 7 day abstain is up. I probably shouldn't mess up the 1st month off bcp bc that probably gives a better boost to swaying girl than hurry fr...right?

Exactly, but beyond that, why make it harder in ways that don't even work, thus lowering your odds of pregnancy with the things that DO work, right?? Why miss that first month off BCP chasing tactics that do nothing and really lower your chances getting pregnant with that month of the BCP residue? so yes I'd have u skip the hurry up FR but it's your sway your way.

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Exactly, but beyond that, why make it harder in ways that don't even work, thus lowering your odds of pregnancy with the things that DO work, right?? Why miss that first month off BCP chasing tactics that do nothing and really lower your chances getting pregnant with that month of the BCP residue? so yes I'd have u skip the hurry up FR but it's your sway your way.

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Yes I agree and thank you! I would love to get pregnant this first round so I will forego the rushed fr. I am CD 15 today and still neg opks. I'm trying not to care and stress about it. I am really hoping to O tomorrow or Thursday. Fx!

FX and TX too!!

With my 1st 2 boys I dtd every other day and ds3 was an o+12 attempt. This time I wasn't worried about timing but trying to stick to a 7 day abstain. Although now it's looking like I might o Sunday bc my opk I took at work today is decently darker than yesterday at the same time. If I O Sunday we might try compressed fr (2x in 6 hrs) or a regular attempt. I'm not sure I want to miss the 1st month off bcp or if I should wait til next cycle. Which is better, 1st month off bcp or abstain?
We dtd Wednesday night so Sunday would be 4 days. I was going for the abstain but I know you have found it debunked

Also meant to add that someone in the ttc group suggested to maybe j & d 2 mins after attempt as a compromise to compressed fr. What do you think? I know you don't like fr this round bc it'll reduce chances of pregnancy but it's just hard to let go of decreasing sperm count. Sorry if I'm annoying you!