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:agree: exactly. If you are really, really miserable on LE Diet something isn't right and we need to get to the bottom of why that is. Because 99 times out of 100 when people are suffering terribly on the diet, it's because they're not eating enough.Quote:
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Originally Posted by ObsidianBlossom
ok that's the problem. Way too little food. No wonder you're unhappy!
Now, have you ever gone back and estimated how much you were really eating to begin with (in terms of calories?) You may be surprised that it was far more calories than you thought it was. Many of us with all boys easily consume 3000 cals in a day and stay slim doing that, and many many of us eat more like 2000 easily and it's not even that much food! (I am in the 3000 range normally and feel practically starvated on 2000 LOL - it is just hardly anything!)
So first thing, go back and think about a normal day of what you were eating before and add it up. You will very likely be surprised how many calories it was. Then come back here and update me and I"ll tell you what cal range to aim at. But under no circumstances EVER go below 1200, 40 g protein, 30 g for any reason and 99% of everyone will need to be higher than that.
You may be surprised about the holidays - I know people worry about them but actually, since everything feels like a treat, for many people it's actually easier to do diet over the holidays. The important thing is just to eat whatever it is you think you want rather than trying to be "good" and eating 732 rice cakes before realizing "OMGosh I just ate 5000 calories of rice cakes" and deciding since the diet is already ruined, then having half a Christmas goose, 40 candy canes, and the remnants of the Yule Log (is that something you eat? not really sure on that one). Just have the thing you want in the first place and you'll be surprised to find yourself satisfied, most of the time still well within diet limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianBlossom
is there an amount of protein, fat, cals for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ObsidianBlossom
If it's very low fat it looks to me like it would burn off very quickly!
Thanks atomic - I’ve decided to eat more at lunch and tea and just have to two meals but plenty to eat 1500 cals. I’m going to keep skipping breakfast and have three sugar free coffee a day and have sugar free polo and Diet Coke in between meals if I desperate for a snack. I’m also stricter veggie than I was and am strictly having an hour cardio at least four times a week. We will dtd once when we try next month..... I’m wondering if next month is too soon as don’t know I’ve been on the exercise and diet for long enough yet.... :-/ thanks atomic your replies have been helpful x
What is the theory behind having just two to three meals and no snacking swaying pink? Why is it thought to sway? X
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Oh did I explain about the 2 meals already? Hopefully I am not repeating myself. both 2 and 3 are totally fine and acceptable. Some people prefer 2, others 3. We get good results with both. I had three. just push that first meal till 11 or so. I ate at 11ish, then around 5, and had a bedtime snack.
We have seen considerably better results with at least 8 weeks on diet and 12+ was best. But anything more than 4 weeks has been wihtin the realm of acceptible to me.
The idea of skipping meals and snacks is because a researcher named Elissa Cameron has theorized that blood sugar (and NOT blood sugar the number itself, but the complicated process your body goes through to raise low blood sugar into normal ranges) may be altering the gender ratio in animal. Researchers in Australia have at the same time proven that XX fertilized eggs develop better in lower glucose environmnets and XY develop better in higher glucose environments, and Shettles proved that there was glucose in the fluids in your repro tract. All this combined plus observations online and in real life where people who have a lot of boys are big eaters and people with a lot of girls were light eaters, led me to speculate about ways to lower blood sugar levels and so we skip one meal a day and avoid snacks. And we've gotten good results that way so I've continued having you guys do that. :)
Hi Atomic..such amazing info! Do you recommend cutting the sugary stuff..I use to sneak a donut, cookie, soda after my meal.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
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Sugar with a meal is fine for anyone who doesn't have PCOS or tendencies that direction.
Let me explain how sugar and blood sugar even works.
Sugar in and of itself isn't any worse for blood sugar than lots of other foods. Any food with carbs makes your blood sugar go up. Then your body releases insulin to lower your blood sugar, because your body doesn't "like" having high blood sugar. Most of us have our insulin sensitivity system working just fine and our blood sugar will drop (exception being those with PCOS-tendencies who would be avoiding sugar anyway) Now, our body isn't very precise about insulin and often shoots out too much insulin, particularly in response to sugar and empty carbs like white refined grains. So after the insulin is released, we often have a blood sugar crash where our blood sugar goes super low and we get shaky and hungry and may even faint. If we eat, the carbs in the food we eat will raise our blood sugar again, hopefully into normal range. If we don't eat, our body STILL raises blood sugar to normal range by burning off stores of fat and to a much lesser extent, muscle. Our bodies don't like high OR low blood sugar and will always take steps to correct that. Our bodies want to be in normal blood sugar range as many hours out of the day as it can.
For swaying, it is not so much that we want measurably low blood sugar (because that isn't even possible anyway - our bodies will simply raise it) It is that we want to trigger that state where our bodies are burning off those stores of fat. It is appearing that is at least partially what is swaying, even though we don't know how. So for those with a normal insulin response, having something sugary will temporarily raise your blood sugar up but then it will drop very low and stay low for a while, triggering that burning off of the stores of fat. This explains the "patented girl mom diet plan" of a candy bar and a diet coke which is what many, many women with girls regularly eat for lunch after skipping breakfast totally!!
Anyone with normal insulin response can have sugar as a part of their sway diets (and that's the general idea behind the standard LE Diet plan) as long as they can stand the blood sugar crashes without snacking or having breakfast, that is. Anyone with PCOS or other insulin resistance (more than 30 lbs to spare, over 40, diabetic or history of gestational diabetes) can't have sugar because their body is not so good at responding to insulin and their blood sugar doesn't drop very well in response to carbs. For them, eating sugar is a recipe not for a blood sugar crash but for high blood sugar and so they need to skip sugar and eat whole grains, fruits and veg for carbs instead of white flour and exchange skim dairy for whole (skim dairy is the devil for insulin resistance).
So if you don't have PCOS or any other insulin issues, you are fine to continue eating sugar. It won't make your blood sugar go up any more than bread or pasta or rice does really (maybe a little, but it's also better for encouraging that overshoot of insulin)
And as you can see by the complexity of that explanation, this is why I generally just say "low blood sugar" and leave it at that for people even though it isn't strictly true. It's the truest short explanation I can give!
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That’s what’s in what I was eating and a handful of tinned raspberries but not sure what they had in them.
I’m struggling with the low fat low protein low sugar thing it’s hard to find anything tasty other than vegetables to eat which I guess are high in nutrients and could sway blue!
Although everything is ok on the LE diet I’m not eating before 10:30 and am trying to have two meals one at around 10:30 (yogurt and fruit) and not eat again until around 3ish where I’ll have a piece of toast or a sandwich then a vegetarian meal around 7-8pm (we eat late unfortunately as DH works late and he doesn’t like me to eat without him) is eating late bad?
Thanks so much for this wealth of information atomic you’re amazing! I find the theories and studies absolutely fascinating to the point I’m nearly obsessing!
Also the exercise- 1 hour fast walk/jog combined 4-5 times a week usually in the morning before any meals.... is that ok? I’m worried about the testosterone levels raising - are there any foods that raise it or lower it or any ways of monitoring what my own levels are? Thanks so much xx
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The hardest thing is turning down cakes and choccy with a cuppa coffee. I guess am best having my treats with my meals ? I’m thinking about fasting I’m guess two big meals would be better than three and the longer between meals the better?
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