Here after two blue sways -- pink sway, got BOY <3

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Originally Posted by aloup

Thank you 😊 I’m a little lost here - the forums seem pretty inactive or am I looking in the wrong place? Looking for others who will be ttc in the next 6 months too. I can see you’ve swayed successfully before - huge congratulations and good luck for your next sway 💖

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Aloup, we often have a lull at this time of year. We also had a technical glitch with the site during June so some people were getting an error message when they tried to sign in, but that is fixed now.

How can I help??

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Originally Posted by aloup

I think we’ll be trying from September although that worries me slightly as apparently more boys are conceived in autumn and winter, my boys were conceived in November and January. When will you be swaying? Yes I’ve read about the LE diet and have started making some changes (no breakfast, trying not to snack etc). How is everything going with you? 💖

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The months of the year are very minor. They're interesting because of what they tell us about how swaying might possibly work with the human body, and sure it's great if it can work out, but I'd not postpone a sway for that reason!

I conceived my daughter in November!

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Aloup, we often have a lull at this time of year. We also had a technical glitch with the site during June so some people were getting an error message when they tried to sign in, but that is fixed now.

How can I help??

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Thanks atomic for your reply. I was looking for anyone else who may be ttc in the next few months for moral support! Also I’m a bit confused after reading your post below re. Whole grains and skim milk. I’ve switched to white bread etc such as bagel thins (I always used to eat wholegrain or seeded bread before) and I’m having skimmed milk as thought this was more pink friendly. My bmi currently is 21.8, no history of diabetes, diet is usually quite carb heavy anyway and menstrual cycle regular. Any advice in dos and donts? Should I follow the slow burn diet? If so can you give me some more info please? Thanks atomic

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Originally Posted by ChezIBY

Nice :) I'm glad things are settling for you :) whereabouts in France will you be, Ile de France or not at all? We could have even met up with kiddos. I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed for your August cycle then, don't forget your multivitamins and all!!

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Unfortunately we'll be a bit far! We're going to Lyon & region around that ...otherwise could have been fun!:)
Please take my pink dust so I've got none left for when we TTC :P

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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush

Before you get going, I wanted to talk to you about the alternate form of LE Diet that we call the "slow burn" or PCOS-type LE Diet. We actually have much better results with that style of diet than the standard LE Diet. I would honestly have everyone use it, but many people can't stick to it and many many more see their weight plummet on that type of diet.

My gut instinct is to have you do a modified LE Diet where we do some things from the alternate diet and other things from the standard. But these questions will help me know for sure how strict we need to be:

What is your BMI?? Do you have any history of gestational diabetes or Type 2 diabetes in your family? Do you gain weight really easily, have trouble losing weight when eating a lot of carbs? Is your menstrual cycle regular most of the time?

RE the milk in coffee, it doesn't need to be skim. In fact if you do go on the alternate diet, you would want to avoid skim milk totally. The LE Diet is about the limits, and within the limits it is ok to have full fat milk or even cream (and in fact some people need to, to get enough fat).

My gut instinct, because I want you to have best possible results, is for you to do half-way in between the standard LE Diet and the alternate one. That would mean you switch to whole grains only (or at least most of the time), have NO skim or part skim dairy, only full fat dairy within the limits of the day, limit sugar (you don't need to cut it out totally unless we decide to do the alternate diet fully, but don't do the "gummy worms for calories" type of mindset some people do on the standard LE). We would change the macros around slightly so you're getting 50-60 g protein and fat.

You can have whole eggs and nuts but keep them within limits. There used to be this idea that eggs were an "eat all you can" for pink sways but that is a very bad idea - that's why there is a warning against eggs. Just as long as you're within limits you can have them. 4-6 eggs a week has been a good guideline.

Since you're not trying for a while, we want you to start off doing higher calories than you think you'll need. We can cut back over time. We don't want anyone to start off too low in calories, lose too much weight, stop ovulating, then have to increase calories to get ovulation going again! Be VERY cautious this first couple months. It's much better to start off higher than needed and cut back than to do the opposite!

Do you have a ballpark figure about how many cals, grams of protein, and fat you're eating or will be eating??

If you email me at atomicsagebrush@gmail.com I can send you some additional diet stuff I have.

EVerything else is looking great!

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Hey Atomic,

thanks so much for taking the time :)
I'm tall and have always been skinny-ish and like sport. BMI is 20, just checked. No one ever had diabetes in our family. Always fell pregnant within a month or two of trying. Regarding weight - I can gain and lose some easily enough. I'm not really bothered about what I eat TBH and I'll follow whatever you say works best Boss :) I've tracked what I eat these last days like you explain in your essays and I am at around 1800-2000 kcal a day (depending on activity as also bike and walk several miles daily lugging kids/strollers etc), and 60g both protein and fat which I thought was fair (I would have eaten more normally, this was me cutting it off and then eating steamed zucchinis or whatnot). I also skipped breakfast and went 14 hours+ between dinner and lunch.

(re not getting worked up about what I eat- when I fell pregnant with DD for instance I would have small breakfasts or none and frequently ditch lunch because of work in the office and not be bothered. I put in the effort with all the supps and 9 fruit/veg a day and carbs and protein at every meal etc, though it was counterintuitive. So, just point the way. I've quit tea already lol

Thanks so much Atomic, I'll email you :) Please don't rush on my account, I am genuinely embarrassed about how much you've helped me already <3 God bless you and your family <3

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Originally Posted by LMSM

Unfortunately we'll be a bit far! We're going to Lyon & region around that ...otherwise could have been fun!:)
Please take my pink dust so I've got none left for when we TTC :P

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Awesome, I'll take it, and you take my blue dust from my very active boys :) <3 <3

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Originally Posted by aloup

Thanks atomic for your reply. I was looking for anyone else who may be ttc in the next few months for moral support! Also I’m a bit confused after reading your post below re. Whole grains and skim milk. I’ve switched to white bread etc such as bagel thins (I always used to eat wholegrain or seeded bread before) and I’m having skimmed milk as thought this was more pink friendly. My bmi currently is 21.8, no history of diabetes, diet is usually quite carb heavy anyway and menstrual cycle regular. Any advice in dos and donts? Should I follow the slow burn diet? If so can you give me some more info please? Thanks atomic

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If you think you can stick with the Slow Burn version of the Low Everything Diet without losing too much weight, then yes I'd switch to a more modified version. We are clearly getting better results with the alternate diet. I know it seems counterintuitive but skim dairy seems to negatively impact blood sugar for quite a few people and high blood sugar can undermine an otherwise good pink sway (this would likely not be just from skim dairy in a person with normal insulin response, but for someone who was eating nothing but white bread, skim dairy, and gummy worms, that sort of thing, it might be too much.) I would honestly use the Slow Burn alternate LE Diet for everyone but many people cannot stick to it and many many more will see weight fly off and they do better on the standard.

So continue with whole grains, full fat dairy only (no skim dairy), boost protein and fat to 50-60 g each (from mostly vegetarian sources if possible) BUT because you're on this type of diet only as a preemptive measure, you can continue to have some sugary foods in moderation. This is the modified version that can work for people who don't need to do the full on Slow Burn alternate LE.

Brilliant Chezlby - I have your email and will get back to you ASAP with the extra diet info.

TTC time is coming up for us -_- so nervous. Any last tips for BD pattern for me? I've more or less decided on one attempt after positive O test, and daily DTD till then with a condom. Anyone care to correct me? Atomic?

TYSM, prayers and pink dust accepted ��

Wishing you the best of luck and all the pink dust!