September TTC Boy Chit Chat and Such Thread

Aw Lola, I'm sorry for the bfn, maybe that will change in a day or two. Fwiw, in July I started testing early every day/two days and was so disappointed. And in August I swore I would not test til af was due and I got a bfp. With dd, I did not test until the night before af was due. I think early tests can be great but sometimes not--just because it is bfn at 9dpo doesn't mean it will stay that way! Fx!

We are getting tons of rain from the tropical storm here and I am laying around being so lazy and eating so much girl stuff! Oh my gosh, ice cream and shells and cheese and cinnamon rolls and chocolate chip cookies.....I mean, the gender is set now, right? I am back to my old habits!

Daisy-I think I'm gonna do partial diet. Lemon water (acquired a taste for it believe it or not) and will eat healthy and keep up my blood sugar. Not gonna do the bs drink anymore. I still have a few cans of V8 left so I'll drink that leading up to O. Still have my supps too.

Lola-it's unbelievable how many women have chemicals and just don't know. It's scary for me though because I'm Rh negative and need the Rhogam shot after a mc. Though my doc said usually before 10 weeks you don't need it but he likes to give it anyway. I had found out I'm Rh- after my first mc at 6 weeks.

This TTC journey is such a roller coaster!

Alexis, do you need the rhogam shot to prevent a m/c? If so, why don't they just give it to you after a BFP? Why do you need it after the m/c?

Lola, test again in a few days (if you can wait!). Cramps are a good sign, right? FX for a BFP soon!!

Daisy, eat all the ice cream you want, you can't change the gender now! Dairy won't make a baby's willy fall off or anything! :wink:

Hobber-the Rhogam shot is for my negative blood type. My husband is positive blood type. So if the baby has a + blood, my body will react and try to attack the baby with the different blood types. The Rhogam shot is given to the mother at 28weeks gestation, after delivery, after a mc, and after any time the mother bleeds during pregnancy. If not given, miscarriage is a definite possibility. The shot prevents my body from becoming sensitized and attacking the baby. I hope I'm giving a clear description of this lol.

I'm just popping over here from the pink swayers to give my love to Alexis - I just heard the news, sweetie, and I'm so sorry! I hope you get your sticky blue bean really soon. :hug2:

Awww thanks so much Mocha!! <3 So much appreciated!

Alexis, my DD2 is negative, so that is good to know. Of course, I'm sure her doctor will tell her all this stuff when she is ttc someday, but my pediatrician did tell me about it also. She told me it's not a big deal, hope that is true for you! And you are so right about the chems. My doc told me like half end that way and a lot don't even know it.

So, another bfn today at 10dpo. I'm just not feeling it. I know it's still early, but I just don't feel like this is our month. Already looking ahead to next....I am going to have DH do the semen analysis...a wise friend who has been struggling longer than I told me I should go ahead and do it even though we know he's knocked me up a few times before (all to no avail though). I may take a month off the Clomid, whatever my doctor recommends. I'm just bummed and SO TIRED of this. Sorry to be such a bummer today.

And also wanted to add that I am dropping everything. I will still eat healthy and well and take prenatals, but no more supps. Maybe for DH if he needs them, but I just can't spend $100 a month on it anymore. I'm even thinking of not doing FF or tracking or anything anymore. I just want to try dtd every other day....maybe not even opks. I just need a break, but at my age I don't have that luxury. I know this is terribly unmotivational for you swayers to read, but you just can't do it forever. I really hope you all get a bfp way sooner than later!!!!

:hug2: Lola.

Of course I also feel like cussing bc I'm just so upset that this *might* not be your month ... I remember your 1st attempt back on IG and it just breaks my heart what this past year (and then some) has held for you on the TTC front.

I know your past BFPs came at 10dpo so this feels like a definite BFN, but we all know ... 10 dpo is still to early to call yourself out. So I'm going to hold a sliver of hope but I totally get why you're thinking of next month already.

I like the plan to drop the supps and go with a good ol' healthy diet, see what your doc says about clomid, and to go ahead with the SA. Y'all have talked about it for a while and if you're not going to pay for supps this month then the money can be used for that. I remember it isn't very expensive.

Ah Lola. Go ahead and vent away ... YOU aren't a bummer. This situation is a bummer. You are lovely. :kiss:

Thanks, B....I just feel like this is starting to make me crazy, ya know? I feel like my whole life is wrapped around this and I'm afraid I've lost a bit of myself. I don't even look the same, for crying out loud. Well, not much I can do but make a new strategy, I guess.....you made me feel a lot better though, thank you hun!!!!

Lola, your post made me so sad! :( I hate to see you feeling so down. I know you have been doing this a long time, and you have been through a lot. I can see that you feel fed up and exhausted. It must be really frustrating. :( Maybe stopping the supps and FF will help you, you know? Take off the pressure? SO many women get pregnant when they stop stressing about it... several people I know, who had tried for a long time and finally turned to adoption, then got pregnant when they WEREN'T trying!

You are such a great person; you deserve for this to work. Sending you huge (((HUGS))). I wish I could do more for you!

Oh, Lola. Your not a downer....TTC is a roller coaster and we are all here for you. I agree that FF can stress us out (I haven't temped in the past couple days) and all the supp can get so overwhelming. I agree go for it!!! If my friend can get PG at 42 (she only has 2 children and has a hard time conceiving at all) and she wasn't even taking any vitamins or supplements.....you can do it girl.....just go healthy and stress-free. On the TTC boy board on FF more than half of the girls told me they had been TTCing for too long and just cut everything out (maybe kept up with supp), but got pg right away AND got their boy. Our goal here is to have a healthy baby first and gender is just an experiment. This month I have tried my hardest to stay away from the charts on FF and my old pg charts....just try to stay involved with the things I enjoy and love in my life. What are your interests? Maybe you could learn a new skill that you could use once you are pg or have a new baby....like sewing or knitting. You will have another baby. Big hugs from us.....please stay around even if you are not swaying (unless you just need a break from us).

Take care.....go get a starbucks (decaf just incase :) )

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Flava, don't take the FertileCM after O, and now Atomic is saying flaxseed oil is not good for ttc in general.

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I will do so with the fertile cm .And I never take falxseed so that's good for me.
Sorry about the bfn but it still early and I see your temp looking good. MAy have been a ID on 9 dpo?:fx:

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Originally Posted by b3blue

Daisy- Great news, congratulations!

Lola- SS about the BFN, fx for tomorrow!

WP- Good for you staying strong. I just ordered some more ICs so I know I'll be testing from 8dpo on...testing addict I am! I keep telling myself it's for science. Just to see how early you could catch it lol.

AFM: My temp is up and down so I'm thinking I'm safe. TCOYF just moved my cover up on my chart there and that makes more sense. I'll know with a couple more temps for sure and I went ahead and ordered some opks just in case. Oh and OT but we got renters with a 1 year lease for our house! I think they'll probably stay longer than that and that is just a huge weight off of our (especially Dh's) shoulders.

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That is great new about the house! And I forget to say last time you guys look so nice together and the girls are just super cute!!!!

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Originally Posted by Alexis2007

Hobber-the Rhogam shot is for my negative blood type. My husband is positive blood type. So if the baby has a + blood, my body will react and try to attack the baby with the different blood types. The Rhogam shot is given to the mother at 28weeks gestation, after delivery, after a mc, and after any time the mother bleeds during pregnancy. If not given, miscarriage is a definite possibility. The shot prevents my body from becoming sensitized and attacking the baby. I hope I'm giving a clear description of this lol.

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Same here Im RH- and hate that damn shot ! It burns like hell!

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Originally Posted by WashingtonPromise

s....just try to stay involved with the things I enjoy and love in my life. What are your interests? Maybe you could learn a new skill that you could use once you are pg or have a new baby....like sewing or knitting. You will have another baby. Big hugs from us.....please stay around even if you are not swaying (unless you just need a break from us).

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I think this is excellent advice that piggy backs on what you said Lola ... that this past year has taken you away in some ways from who you really are since you've been all wrapped up in TTC. It's hard to take your mind off of it though, I know.

Keep at it girl. Like WP said ... you will have another baby. As long as you keep trying you WILL get there. It's just a matter of time and unfortunately it has taken much longer than you and DH thought it would :mad: Hope that you've found something enjoyable to do with the rest of your weekend.

Heather, congrats on finding renters!

Daisy I LOL about all you've been eating now! Here's hoping you have no nausea this time around (did you have it before?) and can keep enjoying food!

Flava how're you feeling?

Lola.....bigs hugs dear and i think u still got a few days. u never know :)
i hear u abt this never ending TTC.....and yet we don't want to give up. i think maybe a month off clomid might do the trick as u got quick pregnant the natural months. i heard a friend of mine have 2 m/c's and then a normal baby boy and she is 33. so the m/c does not means ur eggs are bad or anything. it was just not ur time then. its just that the union of sperm egg was not ideal and its a complex process so things go wrong with good eggs too. i tried to read some and talked to few people after mine and so thats what i think. i would say do the opks atleast so u don't miss the best times . the temps etc really don't matter. i have almost stopped temping after O as i get weird temps, as i sleep with an open mouth or my clothes or with the room door left closed/open. So i figured i can live without that tension and be more relaxed in the 2ww.

where did u read that atomic says no to flaxeed oil??? link? i was thinking of doing it in 2ww just for longer LP

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Originally Posted by Flava

Same here Im RH- and hate that damn shot ! It burns like hell!

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OMG!! My arm hurt for 2 days!! Should have just made her stick me in my butt!! lol

Lola-I'm so sorry you're feeling down. I understand about the diet. I feel the same way. Hugs to you girl!!

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Originally Posted by begonia

:hug2: Lola.

Of course I also feel like cussing bc I'm just so upset that this *might* not be your month ... I remember your 1st attempt back on IG and it just breaks my heart what this past year (and then some) has held for you on the TTC front.

I know your past BFPs came at 10dpo so this feels like a definite BFN, but we all know ... 10 dpo is still to early to call yourself out. So I'm going to hold a sliver of hope but I totally get why you're thinking of next month already.

I like the plan to drop the supps and go with a good ol' healthy diet, see what your doc says about clomid, and to go ahead with the SA. Y'all have talked about it for a while and if you're not going to pay for supps this month then the money can be used for that. I remember it isn't very expensive.

Ah Lola. Go ahead and vent away ... YOU aren't a bummer. This situation is a bummer. You are lovely. :kiss:

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You just word everything so well! I'm going to a do a serious "yeah that" :) Lola you are in my thoughts and WP's advice is great too about perhaps learning something new to take your mind off of things.


I'm so psyched to TTC I can't stand it. I've wanted this for months now and with DH finally on board (at least this week lol) and our financial stress eased we can really just go for it. Even if my test results come back unfavorable, I've already been through one pregnancy with lovenox shots and it's not that big a deal. DD1 has asked for a baby brother a few times lately and it just makes my heart melt. Hopefully though she won't mind another sister lol.

So sorry your so down Lola:( If there was bfp tokens out there I'd send you mine in a heartbeat, I just can't wait for your announcement whether its this month or in the very near future, just hang in there ok:HH::HH:

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Originally Posted by Alexis2007

OMG!! My arm hurt for 2 days!! Should have just made her stick me in my butt!! lol

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They always stick my butt! But then you can't walk :rofl:

Hey, thanks everyone, you ladies are so sweet and encouraging! I got another negative this morning at 11dpo, but I am pretty zen about it today. You all are probably right, I need to chill out about it all maybe and just see if I get some luck that way...but won't be leaving GD for sure! The thing is, I have a SUPER full life....I run the largest performing arts organization in my state, and love every busy minute of it....and I've got the kids and a great husband now....and am involved in so much going on in the arts in my city....so my passion is really my family first, and then my work....BUT this ttc thing has taken my mind away from work a lot. I would say I am at about 80% of what I normally put into it, which is not great sometimes, but a good portion of my life has been taken over by all the ttc. I think you all know what I mean. So, I think it is time to put some more into work and find a nice lasting zen place with this ttc. I have 36 dancers coming back to the studio tomorrow for our official first day and a busy and exciting season for the next 7 months, so hopefully I can keep it all balanced. But again, thank you all for your love!!!!!

What's hard is that I just can't for the life of me figure out what on earth I could do BETTER, ya know? I know there is still some possibility that I could still be pregnant, but I am going to just move forward and assume I'm not. It's time for a semen analysis, like I said. Then, if there is a problem, we can deal with that head on. DH and I talked about the what ifs yesterday.....there is no way we can afford like 15-20K for IVF, but we decided it's important enough to us to have a baby together, so if we have to, we can harvest my eggs and freeze them in case I don't make any good ones anymore by the time we can save up for IVF- which may be 2-3 years. I am going to call my doc and talk to her about possibly seeing an RE and also what she thinks we should do now. I don't want to waste my full run of Clomid for nothing.

Lola, I heard a whole thing on the radio about egg harvesting and saving them for the future. Apparently, a lot of women do it with great results! I think that is a good solution if you end up needing to go the IVF route. I am glad you and your DH are able to talk about all this stuff and to be on the same page. You are really lucky to have a DH like that. I can tell you my DH would not be on board for IVF or anything. I once mentioned adoption, and he was completely against it, and wouldn't even hear my side of things.

Putting more energy into your job is also a good idea. It will definitely take your mind of TTC for a while. Let us know what happens with the SA.

Thanks, Hobber! I am glad you said that about the egg saving working out for a lot of people! That may be way unnecessary, but you never know. Thing is, I just gotta see what the deal is with the sperm here. If there is an issue, there is no point in us continuing to ttc unless we have a solution. If there is no issue, well, then we just keep trying indefinitely or just decide to give up. I worry about the ttc indefinitely, though. Anyway, this is the story that makes me worried about sperm, and also be perplexed: my bff's sister ttc for like 2-3 years, and finally, they started the infertility process. The DH's SA came back as "non-capacitating" sperm, meaning his sperm wouldn't shed their helmet and penetrate the egg. So, the only option they had was IVF. First round works, and they have B/G twins. When the twins are 6 months old, she discovers that she is pg naturally, and they have a girl. They are all so adorable, by the way, almost like triplets. Anyway, my bff told me recently that they got pg the month they got this new sex toy which, well, let's just say it vibrated everything, even the balls. (I ordered it yesterday, LOL!) So, I don't know, I get nervous hoping my DH doesn't have some issue that can only produce a baby via IVF, but then I get hopeful thinking that we still have some time and gotta just wait and see what happens. Thanks for saying that I am lucky to have my DH.....that is nice to hear. I do agree, I am lucky to have him, and I think it's a nice way for me to end up since my 1st DH was a complete nightmare. (:

That sex toy might have magical TTC properties, huh? :wink: Even if it doesn't, you'll have fun!! Anyway, try not to worry too much about what could be wrong. WHo knows what the SA will show. It may be something really easy to fix. I hope so!

Lola -I don't know temps are still looking good. When would AF due? I don't think you can only have a baby with IVF you was already pregnant with your DH right? Are you taking DHEA ? Maybe it can help. Im taking 50 mg and hoping it works.
Also painting the baseboard here so the challenge will be done before ttc lol:sigh:

Lola: You are sooo lucky to have such an awesome DH. I don't think mine would be quite so understanding unless we had been trying for 2-3 years. Glad to hear your dancers will we back and in full swing again. Can't wait to hear about the SA. My SIL's DH (hubby's brother) had a SA don't when they had been TTCing for 3 years and it came back not so good....they pretty much told him he needed to quit smoking because his sperm seemed to be taking a smoke break too!!! He tried to quit but never fully did and they got pg 3 months later when on a TTC break (from FF, opk, and htp tests) they were 8 wks pg before they tested and they have went on to have 2 more children since then all very close together in age....and her DH still smokes (not that I think that is good), but anyway.....maybe a break from all the stressful part of TTCing is good.

Glad to hear you are doing a little better....I am not the type to stay under a rock too long either :)

Thanks, ladies! My temps usually don't dip until the day before I get AF, which would be tomorrow, technically. I usually get AF on 14dpo (am 12dpo today). I'm having a few little cramps, so I bet it'll be here soon. I'm kinda over being bummed about it, but I do want to see if there is a sperm problem. WP, thanks for sharing that story! My DH smoked for a LONG time until I made him quite a few months ago (believe it or not, almost all dancers smoke!), and I've been stuffing him with sperm-boosting supps for many many months now, so hopefully they are ok. I think I'll have him do it on Friday, thinking I'll take another test in the morning, and if it's negative, I'll be pretty sure I'm out. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You all make me feel so much better!

WP, excited for you to test soon! And Flava, how you doing? Your try is coming up soon, yea? How about you Hobber?

Lola, good that you got your DH to stop smoking. I wonder if it is just taking a while for things to build back up?

My attempt will be in October... so this cycle is my last non-ttc cycle. I am starting to stress about getting everything right. There isn't much time left! I'm excited, but nervous. I wish my DH was doing his part better, but oh well. I m starting to wonder if I can handle 4 kids...:worry:

Oh Lola, honey, I am sorry. I was really thinking this would be your month. I think you have a great attitude and a great plan going forward though.

My nurse called me this morning (after saying Friday that my numbers were fine) and my doctor wants to do an u/s on the 14th when I go for my first appt. I will only be about 6 weeks. Can they even see anything then? I didn't have an u/s with DD until 10 weeks. I've never had a vaginal u/s and I'm really nervous about it. I asked if the doctor thought something was wrong and the nurse was like, no we just want to do the u/s to see what's up. So now I'm going to be a nervous wreck until then. I swear, I kind of think that God/fate/the universe/whatever you believe in makes getting pregnant while swaying and swaying pregnancies more difficult sometimes so that we will appreciate what we have. I know now I'm just hoping this baby is healthy, regardless of gender. Though I'm already thinking it must be a boy because it is being so much trouble! My girl was no trouble whatsoever until the very end when I had pre-eclampsia. And this one is worrying me to death from the start!

Tiffany- That's really odd they didn't say why. I would totally be calling back! Vaginal u/s's are no big deal and if they pushed it back a few days you'd see a heartbeat. Perhaps it's their policy to do a dating u/s at the first appointment or something.

Tiffany, I agree, the vaginal u/s isn't any big deal--just weird because it looks like big dildo. They even put a condom on it! I bet if they were worried something was wrong, they would call you in sooner. But like Heather said, you could call back just to be sure.

Daisy, I agree with the others, the vag u/s is no biggie. I would call them back to ask why, tell them you are worried now. They certainly don't want worried pregnant women, so I'm sure they'll tell you something. It may be no big deal. I can only imagine with u/s numbers that it's something like wanting to see how MANY babies are in there or see if there is a developing yolk sac and fetal pole....I hope it's ok, and it probably is. Thanks for the hugs about me. (:

Hobbers, you can do 4 kids for sure! ELP is the big brood master, though....hopefully she can calm you down about it. Hey, she's still making em' too!

Daisy ITA ... the 6 week u/s is really nothing to fret about; it has in my experience been routine with each of my pg's to have a "dating" scan at the 1st appt. At 6 weeks Lola is right, they will be looking for yolk sac/fetal pole, but probably no heartbeat yet. With DD1 I had the vag and it is not my fave thing in the world but doesn't hurt or anything ... my last 2 pg's my early scan has been abdominal and I definitely preferred that!

So Lola has DH booked the SA yet? I'm curious to know what that reveals. It's one of those weird situations where you almost hope they find something, but it is easily fixable, and BOOM then you get pg :-) Prob won't work out that way of course. I do have a friend who it was that situation though. Can't recall what it was with the DH, but after the SA they "fixed" something and literally the next month he knocked her up. So who knows. Best to do the test and see!

Tink what's your update?

WP are you just waiting to see if AF shows?

Getting excited for Flava and Hobber to have attempts :-)

I'm having a hard time finding time to pop on much lately so if I'm absent know I'm thinking of all of you! And I frequently read our thread on my phone but hate posting from there so I'll be in touch. My house project has just gotten to a point where I'm constantly having to have meetings and go places and pick stuff out. Fun stuff but looking forward to getting it done.

I am on CD11 now, and I usually start today with my opks. I usually have a day or two of fade-ins before I get a positive, but today I got a positive! I guess that means I am going to O earlier this month? Normally I O on day 14 or 15, after 2 days of +opk. I am hoping today was my first day of +opk, but who knows, because I didn't test yesterday! I am guessing I will O a day early on day 13? Ugh, I hate that it changed this month--I was hoping for some consistency for my attempt next month!

Daisy: Alright!!! An early peek at the baby. Like everyone said, if they were super worried I am sure they would continue betas or something.

Begonia: I remember building our house and all the work we put into picking everything out. It was a lot of fun, but most of the work for me started when I was 8-9 months preggo with DS2. DH, his brother (he has a company and this was their first house), and my oldest brother built our house....that was it....they subbed out the plumbing and hv/ac. I may have to dig up a photo of our house.

Lola: Are you testing in the morning? We can be test buddies.

Hobber: You may be Oing early, just keep testing....I have heard of people having a couple days of positives. Who knows, our cycles can get screwy on us.

3pnb: You need to post so we can see how many days until your U/S!!!

Have any of you ladies used the Answer early tests? I hope they detect early enough for 12dpo.

WP, we built our own house too (DH is a carpenter and did our house with his company). How exciting that you get to test tomorrow!! FX for a BFP! I have used those tests and they have worked for me at about 10 or 11 DPO I think.

WP- I think Answers are pretty good. I got a pos at 11dpo but knowing my LP now I was actually a day late so I can't really say lol. I agree with you too that 3npb needs to post so we can stalk her u/s :)

Hobber- Man, our bodies never like to just go with the flow eh? At least that puts you that much closer to your attempt. October seems so far away sometimes.

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Originally Posted by LolaInLove

Hey, thanks everyone, you ladies are so sweet and encouraging! I got another negative this morning at 11dpo, but I am pretty zen about it today. You all are probably right, I need to chill out about it all maybe and just see if I get some luck that way...but won't be leaving GD for sure! The thing is, I have a SUPER full life....I run the largest performing arts organization in my state, and love every busy minute of it....and I've got the kids and a great husband now....and am involved in so much going on in the arts in my city....so my passion is really my family first, and then my work....BUT this ttc thing has taken my mind away from work a lot. I would say I am at about 80% of what I normally put into it, which is not great sometimes, but a good portion of my life has been taken over by all the ttc. I think you all know what I mean. So, I think it is time to put some more into work and find a nice lasting zen place with this ttc. I have 36 dancers coming back to the studio tomorrow for our official first day and a busy and exciting season for the next 7 months, so hopefully I can keep it all balanced. But again, thank you all for your love!!!!!

What's hard is that I just can't for the life of me figure out what on earth I could do BETTER, ya know? I know there is still some possibility that I could still be pregnant, but I am going to just move forward and assume I'm not. It's time for a semen analysis, like I said. Then, if there is a problem, we can deal with that head on. DH and I talked about the what ifs yesterday.....there is no way we can afford like 15-20K for IVF, but we decided it's important enough to us to have a baby together, so if we have to, we can harvest my eggs and freeze them in case I don't make any good ones anymore by the time we can save up for IVF- which may be 2-3 years. I am going to call my doc and talk to her about possibly seeing an RE and also what she thinks we should do now. I don't want to waste my full run of Clomid for nothing.

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You could always travel overseas to have IVF, even with travel costs it still works out cheaper than IVF in America.