Sorry to hear that, I hope it's nothing too serious and that all is ok x
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Sorry to hear that, I hope it's nothing too serious and that all is ok x
Ok, so I managed to convince DH to release one last time tonight before we dtd. That makes 3 times he's released in 24 hours. I still haven't gotten a +OPK, but as I think I should get one tomorrow or the next day. We're going to dtd tonight, then *if* I can convince him without any tension I'll get him to release again tomorrow before we dtd, but if he's not keen, we'll just dtd without him releasing first. We'll probably do the same thing the next night, and again the next day until I know I've O'd. I think I can feel ok about that plan.
CM is still that weird, creamy/watery mix I had last cycle. It's weird that I had EWCM briefly then it went away - anyone ever have that before? I'm also a little concerned that cervix was SHOW then went back to firmer and lower, though still open. I don't think it's possible I missed O (temps are lower than ever), but I can't help but be a little nervous.
Mocha, your body can try but fail to ovulate a few times before it succeeds (I think it's if oestrogen is low but I'm not sure) have you stopped saw palmetto, if not, that might help. Again, I'm no expert, maybe start a thread??
Z, think everything is ok, just had loads going on, my dad is not well but now seeing specialist so hopefully ok. My nanny is in a home, very old now but not happy so hard on my mum and my mum is just generally finding it all hard to cope with, she was quite unwell about a year ago and I think it's just all a but much. I'm sure it'll all work itself out, we're all just used to my mum being the centre and rock for everyone so it's a bit weird!
Gosh, that's alot going on at once swish, I hope it works out and calms down for you all soon. Your poor mum must feel terrible with both her husband and her mum having difficulties at the same time.
That sounds good mocha, good luck to you and DH this month.
I'm feeling really down today, I'm convinced we're going to get pregnant with another boy - and whilst that doesn't make me feel sad in itself (a boy would be wonderful and fit in just perfectly here!) I feel as though I'm already saying goodbye to my non-existent daughter. Silly really ...
swish - sorry you're dealing with all that stuff.
Z - sorry you're feeling down. I have lots of days like that, where I feel like this 5 months of sacrifice has been for nothing, and I'll never get my daughter.
On a positive side, my cervix is softer and more open than ever today, and there's a bit of EWCM again (though some may be semen from dtd last night). I think I'm going to get my +OPK today.
That's good news, mocha
Z, sorry your feeling rubbish, I really hope it's not that prediction creeping into your head!!! You have just as good a chance as anyone else, maybe more as you already have 3 lovely boys, I am CONVINCED you will get your little girl, chin up!!! Xx
Thanks guys.
swish - I think we stand less of a chance because we have 3 boys already, probably because everybody else I know with 3 children has 2 of one gender and 1 of the other and I suppose I feel like we missed that boat!!
mocha - I can't wait for you to join me in the 2ww :D
Z - we can only do so much to weigh the odds in our favour, after that it's out of our hands. We are all doing SO MUCH that if this doesn't work, nothing will (except high tech, which isn't an option for us). I'm sick of hearing EVERYONE tell me I'll just keep having boys if I try again, but part of me feels that may be true. One thing I noticed a while back is how rare it is to see a family with same gender twins have another child of the opposite gender. I see SO MANY families with twin girls and another girl, or twin boys and another boy. Part of me worries that there's some reason for this and it's going to be doubly hard for me to get an opposite.
However, I keep grasp of a small hope because of my Mom - she had 3 boys then had me. Maybe fate wanted me to have the same family as she did? At least if I do have a girl I'll be able to give her lots of advice on the joys and pains of having 3 older brothers!
I think you have a great chance of getting your girl, Z - if I thought it was impossible, then I'd have to accept the same thing for me. I've heard of lots of families with a girl after 3 boys, and hopefully you and I will join their ranks very soon.
Aww, thanks mocha, just what I needed to hear!
Btw, I had a friend pregnant with twin girls and she has both a DS and a DD :D
Girls, I know more families with 3 of one then one of another, including my mum! I don't know many with 2 then an opposite. Mocha, I also know 2 families with twins of one gender and other children of another. We ALL gave a good chance!!
I didn't get my +OPK today, even though I was sure I would. My cervix is now completely soft and so open I could stick my whole finger in there (don't worry - I didn't:suprise:). CM is EW and abundant. I'm going to test again this evening, but I suppose it doesn't really matter if I miss my surge since I'm BDing through O and have already started. Still, I love seeing that smiley to confirm all my body's signs. At least I'm temping again this month so I'll be able to see from my temps if I've O'd.
I haven't decided whether or not to get DH to release again tonight before we dtd. He's been surprisingly compliant the past couple of nights, probably because I've helped a bit with the process :oops:. I'm not going to use any more Rephresh even though it will wear out tomorrow and I think at this point I'll O Saturday...I just don't want to have fresh Rephresh in there this time to kill all the sperm.
Yay! I think I just got my +OPK! I usually test 3 times a day, but I forgot to first thing this morning. About an hour after I woke up, I peed again and tested with an ic, and it was almost positive. I'm going to hold my pee all morning and test again at lunch time, but I'm fairly sure I'll get my smiley then. Woo hoo! I'll probably O sometime tonight or tomorrow. I'll make sure to get at least one more attempt in tonight to be sure.
Oh, and I didn't make dh release before we dtd last night. Instead I sort of JAD - I say sort of because I waited maybe 2 minutes before getting up and propped my hips, then got up and let gravity to its work.
yay, mocha!!! That's great, xx
go make that baby Mocha!
Woo Hooo Mocha!! this month has got to be your month!!! CD 2 here so I am officially in the TTC in Sept thread! I should ovulate between Sept 20 and Sept 25th, not sure since last cycle was just a mess! Thinking of abstaining from now till cd11 (Sept 18) and then go to freq bd till I get a positive opk. I don't know. Maybe third month will be charm? I think I am going to go lite on the rephresh or not even use at all. Not sure on that one. Good Luck to us all ladies!
Hoorah mocha - we're all hoping this month will be your month!
GL Emmy :D
Go get em Mocha - I really hope this is your month!
Emmy - good luck this month, I hope the third time is the charm for you!
Good luck to everyone else too - I have been following posts and hope everyone gets the gender of their dreams (me included!)
I am so confused with my cycle. I am 11DPO. I spotted last night and knew AF was coming. Today I got a faint but visible BFP on a dollarama (dollar store) test. I am not sure if these tests work properly or not - I hope to get another later on. Regardless, the spotting has me worried that things are not sticking properly if I am in fact pregnant.
I am also worried as I Oed early this cycle and BDed twice on O day (like I did with my boys - which were once on O day). I did have other things to sway like Replens, diet, supplements, etc. but I am starting to stress out about timing now. This swaying business is tough - I'm sure I will always second guess something.
OMG tweedledum! I'm sure the test is working and plenty of people spot or bleed during pregnancy, not necessarily because something is wrong. You have to test again! {hugs} about worrying about the timing of your sway, I'm sure we'll all do the same about one aspect or another. Let us know!!
tweedle - I agree - tons of women spot during early pregnancy and are fine. Test again with a better test!
I just tested with my last digi OPK and got a -. I also used the same sample to test with an ic, and it was a lot lighter than this morning. I wonder if I had my surge overnight and missed it? My cervix is still SHOW. DH is working from home today and my two oldest sons are at school, so we might dtd this afternoon during ds3's nap and tonight to cover our bases. I'm out of digis so now I won't get the satisfaction of seeing that smiley, but at least if my temp goes up tomorrow I think it's safe to assume I O'd.
spotting can actually be a really good sign of pregnancy showing that the baby is implanting well, it doesn't mean anything bad necessarily. Congratulations on your BFP!
I am famished today... :( counting down the minutes until lunchtime
weighed myself this morning and I've gained a lb since 1.5 weeks ago, so still a couple of lbs down on what I was when I started the diet 2 weeks ago, but the drastic weight loss has stopped!
I'm glad you stopped losing weight too quickly, rainbow.
My plan for yesterday didn't work out so well. We did dtd in the afternoon, thankfully, but dh went out with a friend in the evening, and I stupidly popped 2 Benedryl in addition to the Zyrtec since I had lots of EWCM. Fast forward to 11:30pm, when he got home, and I was passed out in bed with the book I was reading still open. I woke up enough to acknowledge he was home, but I didn't have the energy to even get out of bed to pee, much less dtd. Damn that Benedryl! I really wanted to get 2 attempts in yesterday!
Oh well, I still don't think I O'd anyway. Temp was still down today and I still haven't gotten a true +OPK. Cervix is still SHOW, though not nearly as open as it was last evening when I swear I could have fit my whole finger in. My new higher dose of SP must be delaying O since today is CD14, and I always O on CD13 or CD14. I wonder if I should go back to taking 1 pill (half dose)?
perhaps today is OV day and you just missed the surge on the OPKs?
I know this is a long way off, but what's everyone planning to do around Christmas? I will almost certainly still be TTC then... and that means a lot of roast meals and tasty food will be around :(
I think it's possible my surge happened in the middle of the night 2 nights ago since I had my darkest OPK yet first thing that morning. The OPKs got lighter as the day went on, then I got a slightly darker one in the early evening. I did one with SMU this morning and it was darker than the lighter ones I had yesterday, but not as dark as the one from yesterday morning. Do I even make sense anymore?:think:
As for diet over Christmas, personally I would go ahead and eat the special meals and enjoy them, but maybe only choose a couple of cheat days like Christmas Day and New Year's Eve or something like that. You can't put life completely on hold when you TTC. I'm going to a wedding in 2 weeks and have already pre-ordered the prime rib. I'll either have just gotten a BFP or will have just finished af, but I'm going to eat that steak either way! I'm also planning to eat turkey on Thanksgiving if God forbid I'm still TTC then.
What a confuddle mocha! If I were you and I was second guessing the hormones or wondering whether O was being delayed by the pills I'd stop taking them 2 weeks into my cycle, so now!
I so hope I'm not on this diet at Christmas but I would definitely 'cheat' on Christmas Day at the very least!
mocha - I think tomorrows temp will be key for you, try to keep busy and not worry about it now!
zana - I hope both you and mocha are well on your way to dating scans/bumps come Christmas-time!
:D
Thanks, rainbow - I agree. I was hoping today's temp would be high, but it wasn't. I still have lots of O signs, so hopefully it'll happen today and my temp will rise tomorrow. I just need to figure out a way to get another attempt in tonight. I'm going out with some girlfriends before the kids are asleep and won't be home till late. DH tends to go to bed early and is very grumpy if I wake him up. Would it be terrible to suggest to him that we put a movie on for our big kids while the youngest naps this afternoon, put up the baby gate at the top of the stairs so they can't sneak upstairs and catch us, and have a quickie? DH seemed quite happy with our afternoon delight yesterday, and this way I can make sure I don't miss O if it happens in the early evening.
If you think it'll work then go for it mocha!!
Mocha - I'd go for the afternoon session! I find OPks very confusing - I never got a positive this month but I know I Oed by temps.
As for Christmas - I would eat holiday meals for Christmas Eve, Christmas and maybe New Years and I wouldn't feel guilty! You have to enjoy the holidays.
I still haven't gotten out to get any more HPTs. I took another dollar store test today and it was a darker positive and my spotting has stopped but I won't believe it until I see it on a "real" test. I have been having horrible pain in my cervix too - I have never felt anything like it. And still cramping like crazy. In my previous pregnancies I felt nothing in the early days, maybe the odd cramp, so I'm confused.
tweedledum, I obviously don't know if I'm pregnant yet but I've had loads of cramping and I also had cramping in the tww with DS3. I wonder if we just feel things more because our bodies have done it before? Mine might be playing a nasty trick on me!
tweedle - I always have cramping for the first month or two of pregnancy.
I'm wondering if part of the problem with my OPKs is all the Diet Pepsi I'm drinking. I think I had about 4-5 cans yesterday, and the stuff makes me have to pee constantly. I try my best to hold my pee for 3 hours, but I usually have had something to drink within that time period (there are only so many hours in a day and a lot of Diet Pepsi to drink). So maybe diluted pee is to blame? That would explain why the darkest one was first thing in the morning, before I'd had a chance to drink anything. I'm trying to hold my pee right now so I can test after lunch, but since waking this morning I've had 2 cups of coffee and 2 glasses of Crystal Light, so it'll probably too diluted to tell me anything. Oh well, I guess I'll just keep BDing until my temps go up.
Yep - just as I suspected - my OPK was even lighter just now, at 12:30, than it was at 8:30 this morning. When I line up all my OPKs, I see a darkening trend up until CD13AM, with a lightening trend up until now. I think I'm going to assume my surge happened in the very early morning of CD13, which would mean O would happen today sometime if I go by previous months. Hopefully my temps tomorrow will prove me right! In the meantime, I'm going to drop SP and Vitex as Z suggested - I'd be dropping it tomorrow anyway if I O, and if I haven't O'd maybe dropping them will help it come more quickly.
Hi all,
Mocha, I'd definitely go by temps and just keep bding until you see the rise! Fx for tomorrow!
Z, I am stalking you in 2 ww but have less time to comment at the moment, I'm very excited for you, it all looks very prominsing!!
Rainbow, if I am still on this diet (probably only on my 4th attempt if previous cycles carry on!!!!) I will eat completely normally over Christmas, I do anyway most Sundays.
Tweedle, good news about the spotting stopping. I think we do notice more in the 2ww as we're obsessing over every little thing, you may have had it in previous pregnancies but not noticed it. I had uncomfortable feelings around that area before getting a bfp with ds2. Fx for you, xx
Hi all,
We have had a few days in Disneyland Paris this week and saw so many little girls dressed as disney princesses. That place really is the worst for gender desire in the pink variety! I just can't help feeling that whatever I do, I will get another Buzz Lightyear to add to the 2 we already have.
To cap it all off, I did appaulingly on the diet - the French don't really understand 'vegetarian' but I did drink a ton of diet coke. Oh well back to the hardcore diet this week! I still have some time........
GL in the 2WW Zanacal and FX for a stronger BFP Tweedledum. x
Welcome back, maybeoneday! Hope you had a nice trip, though I understand the difficulty of being surrounded by little girls.
I was very careful this afternoon to stop having drinks for 3 hours before testing with an OPK, and I finally got a definite positive. In fact, my test line is even darker than the control line. So my guess is that O will be one day later than usual and come tomorrow, on CD15. We did get an attempt in this afternoon, and if dh is still awake when I get home tonight we'll dtd again. I'll be sooooo happy to take a break from all this sex when I know O is done!
Hooray mocha, so glad you're almost done! I hope you enjoyed your girls' night last night too. Good to relax in amongst all this craziness!!
Hi maybe! Would you recommend Disneyland Paris? We'd like to take the children to Florida but I can't see it happening until they're much, much older so I quite fancy Paris in the meantime (if we can ever afford it!). I completely understand how you must have felt with all the cute little fairies and princesses everywhere though! Thanks for your well wishes.
A BFN for me today and I'm going to try and steer clear from testing for a few days as I have none of the sensitive ICs left - and I'm not going to buy any more either!! I honestly have no idea why I'm even testing this early as I've never had such an early BFP before so there's no reason to expect I would this time. I guess you see some other ladies on the site getting early BFPs so you get your hopes up that you should too but it's probaby the exception to the general rule! I'm losing hope by the day thanks to all those BFNs!
zana don't lose hope - some eggs don't even implant until 10dpo and you wouldn't get a BFP for several days after that
That's great, mocha, you can rest from all that bding and join the 2ww again!!
Z, don't lose hope yet, I'm counting on you for some good news!!
Hi, maybe! Lol about the french, they do not get vegetarians at all!
Hope everyone else is ok!
I'm on cd 10 so the frequent release starts today, fx I ovulate, I'm nervous!
Z, Disneyland Paris was great. We took the Eurostar from London and it was brilliant. It takes you directly to the gates of Disney so no time wasted. Eurostar is great as well because you don't pay for children under 4. They are supposed to sit on your lap, but we risked it and used empty seats so we all had one. It is pretty expensive though and the Euro rate doesn't help. We did 2 days (one night) but would recommend 3 days (2 nights) if we were to go again as there is so much to see. Hope that helps!
Keeping my fingers crossed for a BFP in a few days Z, don't get down. You are not out yet!
Swish, good luck with the frequent release - I think my DH is looking forward to that part.... xx