Ah, thanks and good luck to you too! :bluecheer:
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Ah, thanks and good luck to you too! :bluecheer:
I always fell pg first try with all four of my girls, but we tried in June and did not fall pg, but I was kind of happy in the end of being sad, because there is so much I learned from finding gd, I had only found it 2 weeks before our bd. So I feel like I really have a better chance now that I have added a few more things for hubby and I and taking things away that I would have done. I feel really blessed to have found this site. I'm really hoping to fall pg this August!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamingblue16.
Sending tons of blue dust to my blue swayers! :heart:
I have a weird anecdotal question sparked by some recent comments here:Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Conceiving boys is dubbed as being from women in "high condition," but I swear between here and real life, I know so many women who got pregnant with girls on first tries (including me), and women who got boys after fertility struggles and sometimes years, if not months, of trying. What are your thoughts?
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It's hard to explain but think of it as a continuum. We use "high condition" as shorthand but really, most people who are actively TTC are IN good condition (comparitively speaking). None of us (I hope not anyway) are in truly poor condition in the "famine" sense of the word. We are just trying to speak in general terms about our overall physical condition along with the kinds of signals we get from the environment in terms of diet and lifestyle stuff.
The one end of the continuum is PCOS - they have fertility issues but it's a matter of TOO much - often overweight, too many carbs/cals, blood sugar too high, testosterone elevated and they have fertility problems but it's because of too many hormones (in a very very very general way). Then at the other end of the spectrum is the reduced fertility from hypothalamic amennorhea (poor diet, low cals, low fat, too much exercise, low body weight, etc). This is too low in the hormone department. They both appear from the outside to be "infertility" and can even manifest themselves similarly with delayed O and short LP but they are two totally different things - polar opposites really. The PCO end of the continuum, the body gets confused and makes too much T and not enough P and the cysts that form can delay O. The HA end of the continuum , the body does not have enough raw materials and thus delays O due to lack of estrogen and also shortens LP because not enough progesterone and then also lack of estrogen prevents secondary estrogen surge.
Imagine at one end of the continuum (and this is just for illustration's sake, each individual has a unique set of biological and lifestyle factors coming into play here) that the blue mamas come in to TTC 80% set for boys but still make girls 20% of the time. And the other end of the continuum are people who are 80% set for pink but would still make boys 20% of the time. (of course there are people even further down the ends of both these continuums who may not even be able to get pregnant at all) Most of us are in the middle and what makes it even more hard to wrap your brain around, is that these settings are NOT permanent and change by the month. Most people are trying to correct for things when they have a problem falling pregnant and so this can move them around - it's not like we have assigned places on this continuum.
SO, because these things are not set in stone it's possible for BOTH people who are set for blue/pink and pink/blue to move up/down this continuum, you have cases in point where people who were low in hormones, do a lot of stuff to boost fertility and end up TTC a boy even after a long time TTC but also people who were high in hormones and had PCOS may go on a special diet and lose weight and exercise or take medications to fix their PCO issues and end up able to get pregnant when they weren't able to before but still have a boy. We refer to all this as "high condition" but it's just a shorthand way to describe it.
It is absolutely completely totally 110% possible to conceive girl(s) first month TTC. It is also possible for people to do things to help themselves get pregnant that have some effect from a swaying perspective as well. It is just that the general trend is that those who get pregnant fast have statistically speaking (at least in our experience on this site) more boys, and those who take longer tend to have more girls (in our experience and also in some studies), but that doesn't mean that this is anything beyond a trend that direction with plenty of exceptions.
The world is full of nearly 8 billion people both boys and girls. Neither gender can possibly be that hard to conceive, when we say things like "high or low condition" etc we are just describing trying to move ourselves a little bit up or down this continuum but most of us are ensconced very firmly right in the middle and have every chance at boys or girls. :) Many of us (esp with only one!!) are just trying to sway the odds from 60-40 to 40-60.
I hope this makes sense, I realize it's a very esoteric kind of idea.
Atomic can I ask a dumb question? You mention too many carbs on the pco : set for boy end of the continuum, but why would a girl swayer therefore try to sway girl by eating more carbs? I do worry that I've inadvertently switched myself to a more pcos type thing and I eat way more carbs than I used to..: weirdly my ov is earlier than ever though (always used to be 20/21, now seems to have settled on cd13/14)..: I just don't understand it..: can you explain it to me please?
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Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Studies have shown pretty clearly that women who are getting a higher % of calorie intake from carbs vs. protein and fat are more likely to conceive girls (and female offspring all together as many of these studies are done in other mammals). So we cut protein and fat from what most of us were eating and also limit calories overall. What is not always understood is that for many of us, just by virtue of cutting calories, we actualy end up eating FEWER carbs (even on the crash and burn type diet) than we were when we conceived our boys. Going from 3000 cals a day which many of us are eating normally to 1500 while still eating 40-60 g protein and fat you're still eating fewer carbs than you were.Quote:
Originally Posted by honeybee37
Additionally, not all carbs are created equal and on the PCOS diet, not only do you eat even fewer carbs than on the standard LE Diet but you're also eating BETTER carbs that don't aggravate PCO-tendencies like for example, pop tarts might. Carbs, contrary to popular belief, are not evil foods, they're totally normal foods that we all should be eating and help our overall fertility (the women who do super low carb diets have problems with fertility issues and their cycles going berserk). But there is a huge difference between the "bagel, salad, soda, skim milk, candy, pasta" very low fat low protein carb carb carb diets that many people eat, vs. the atomic fertility diet. Even the crash and burn diet is a vast improvement over those diets. Just because you're getting more carbs as a % of your day's intake does NOT therefore mean you are getting too many carbs.
Additionally additionally, the things like the dropping snacking, adding in exercise, losing at least a little weight improve your insulin response and actually make you better able to tolerate carbs so you can actually eat more of them over the course of time without having the same PCO-tendency response.
The fact that your O has moved forward on the PCO-type diet indicates to me that you are benefitting from those changes and as long as you are able to get ENOUGH cals (because that has always been my concern for you honeybee is that you are not going to be able to stop losing weight on the PCO-type diets) then you should keep doing exactly what you are doing (BUT please also try to keep in mind that I think your original problem was not enough food intake and it may simply be that your body is now recovering from that, so please do not now start living on brown rice and broccoli sprouts because the same problem may very well recur)
Did any of you boy swayers test your ph?
Mine is only at 6 which from what I can see on Google is to low!! I have seen people talking about the baking soda finger - has anyone tried that???
We had tons of pH opposites going every which direction - pink to blue, blue to pink, boys that should've been girls, girls that should have been boys - so many opposites that it became impossible for me to believe in it any more (I got my 4th boy with pH of 4.5) When I researched into the biology of it, it became really apparent that it was not biologically possible that pH was really swaying (if it did, then all the doctors doing sperm sorting and IVF?PGD could just shoot some pH goo into a petri dish with sperm and an egg and they'd not need to do any of that other stuff. But they don't, because it doesn't work to do that) I have an essay with my findings here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Dreamingblue16.
WHat point of your cycle are you testing?? Many people test at other times of the month before ovulation and your pH is naturally low at that time. It will go up around ovulation.
I am not a fan of BSF because it may contribute to infections, it prevents conception, and it BURNS people chemically inside their body!!! I never used baking soda to get my 4 boys!! We like to use Preseed instead because it's safer.
Thanks - no baking soda finger then ouch!!!!
I tested yesterday (Tuesday) I should be due to ovulate on Sunday/Monday!
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I suspect your pH is going to rise between then and Sun/mon anyway!! :)
Hope this helps someone! :bluecheer:
So first of all, after reading atomic's amazing essays I think my personality probably played a big role, on top of everything else. I'm a super protective mama bear type mom. I think frequently about how I'd physically fight to defend my children from harm, or leap to rescue them if they were in danger. I'm also very competitive. I usually spend a lot of time planning projects and goals, and thinking about how to get my business to grow ahead of the competition - how to undermine my competitors and stay on top, so as to gain more financial resources for my family. I am tiny but I think I'm somewhat similar in personality to the character called Red in Orange is the New Black, if anyone's seen that (and of course, she has all boys). She's kind of fierce and really protective and is the leader of a prison gang, and at the same time she's pretty nurturing, too (I'm thinking of swaying pink, so I'm really trying to lean towards the calmer, connected, nurturing side of me these days...) If I was swaying blue, I'd probably spend a lot of time getting into arguments and winning them, thinking about what I'd physically do to someone if they badly hurt my kids, trying to totally control and dominate my surroundings in order to optimize them for me and my family, and just generally throwing my weight around, if that makes sense. Life is an arena, go out and overcome, blue swaying ladies. :bluecheer: (OK, now put all that away, Serenity...:rolleyes:)
In terms of what I did/ate: I always had the mindset of wanting to get pregnant quickly and to have the healthiest baby possible, so before TTC I always went on a health/fertility craze. I did cardio and weights, and Jillian Michaels yoga meltdown video. I took lots of vitamins (like a prenatal, plus fish oil, plus vitamin C, etc.). I ate lots of beef, turkey, salmon, avocado, whole grains (oatmeal, wheat germ, whole grain pasta), sweet potatoes, greens (kale/broccoli/spinach), carrots, apricots, pineapples, every other kind of fruit and veggie - ate tons but focused on the most nutrient-dense ones. I ate A LOT, like piles of pasta and beef with tomato sauce, and on top of all of this I used to have a bit of a sugar addiction so I was eating like this and then adding Dairy Queen ice cream, dark chocolate, etc. on top. I would also make smoothies and put everything that I read was healthy in them (juices, wheat germ, fruits and veggies, greek yogurt, etc.).
I ate quite frequently: I'm really sensitive to low blood sugar so I normally try to avoid it at all costs. I would always eat first thing in the morning and then again and again before doing anything else at all (going out to the store, going to pick up the kids, going to work, etc). I always kept trail mix (nuts, dried fruits, pumpkin seeds) in my bag and would eat it if I was even the slightest bit hungry, or usually before, so I wouldn't ever have to feel hungry.
I hope this helps someone. It's a wonder that I don't already have a whole army full of boys. :rolleyes: Best of luck to all of you. :cheerteam:
I have 2 boys & had a really boy friendly lifestyle when I look back knowing what I know now.
1) Was a all day & night snacker
2) Ate meat everyday - & red meat at least 4 times a week, ate a very nutritious & varied diet full of wholegrains & low GI food. Never drank alcohol or soda. rarely drank coffee or tea. Often drank vitamin fortified hot chocolate (milo).
3) Ate cereal everyday & sometimes twice a day
4) Was at my heaviest weight before DS1 (gained weight in the 3 months before) & gained muscle before DS2
5) Was on prenatal vitamins for 9 months before DS1 & 1 month before DS2 , & hubby was on prenatals for 9months prior to DS1
6) DS1 was frequent attempts everyday up to & including positive OPK, DS2 was frequent attempts up until 5 days before positive OPK (failed shettles)
7) I was working in a management position when I fell pregnant with DS1 so very dominant in the workplace, similar working position with DS2
9) Was still breastfeeding DS1 when fell pregnant with DS2 but this clearly didnt sway pink at all for us last time!
10) conceived around the time of the full moon
11) frequent "O" on my own a few times a week, but deliberately didnt "O" at either attempt with DS1 & DS2.
12) Used to go for a walk a few times a week
13) Nail biter & total boy mum - like to be in control, big on planning etc
Wishing all your ladies some of my blue dust!
I have 2 boys & had a really boy friendly lifestyle when I look back knowing what I know now.
1) Was a all day & night snacker
2) Ate meat everyday - & red meat at least 4 times a week, ate a very nutritious & varied diet full of wholegrains & low GI food. Never drank alcohol or soda. rarely drank coffee or tea. Often drank vitamin fortified hot chocolate (milo).
3) Ate cereal everyday & sometimes twice a day
4) Was at my heaviest weight before DS1 (gained weight in the 3 months before) & gained muscle before DS2
5) Was on prenatal vitamins for 9 months before DS1 & 1 month before DS2 , & hubby was on prenatals for 9months prior to DS1
6) DS1 was frequent attempts everyday up to & including positive OPK, DS2 was frequent attempts up until 5 days before positive OPK (failed shettles)
7) I was working in a management position when I fell pregnant with DS1 so very dominant in the workplace, similar working position with DS2
9) Was still breastfeeding DS1 when fell pregnant with DS2 but this clearly didnt sway pink at all for us last time!
10) conceived around the time of the full moon
11) frequent "O" on my own a few times a week, but deliberately didnt "O" at either attempt with DS1 & DS2.
12) Used to go for a walk a few times a week
13) Nail biter & total boy mum - like to be in control, big on planning etc
Wishing all your ladies some of my blue dust!
Looking back at my lifestyle when I got pregnant with my son I can see how I was very strongly swaying blue without trying. I had a recent miscarriage and we were just ready for a baby no matter the gender.
*I was doing some Pilates here and there but pretty much no cardio.
*I was taking prenatal vitamins, drinking red raspberry leaf tea, green tea, pomegranate juice, and eating Brazil nuts every day.
*My diet included lots of meat and fatty foods and I ate cereal every morning.
*I had recently cut way back on my coffee and alcohol consumption
*I snacked constantly especially on chips and chocolate.
*We made attempts every day during fertile period using preseed.
*I wanted a baby very badly so I was stressing out over everything and I got pregnant at the end of January so it was right after the stress of the holidays and I had been eating lots of big nutritious meals.
Before the miscarriage I had been doing a light sway for a girl so I should have known everything I was doing would result in a boy. I'm so happy we have him though! Good luck to everyone!!
I have loved reading the how we made our girls thread so thought I would add to this for you lovely ladies ttc boys!
I am a very healthy person in general. Never sick full of energy and always choosing healthy foods. I love eating healthy snack all the time on tomatoes fruit raw veges any health food really and really suffer quickly if I binge on junk food. I have been a healthy bmi for years between 21-23 bmi although as a teenager I had an eating disorder and was severely underweight from 14-20 years of age since then I have been on a health kick!
With my first son I had recently put on 4-5 kgs and had moved 1500 kms for a work transfer so a bit stressed and forced to be super organised ( more than usual) I am a teacher and have type a personality for sure! Cannot sit still amd like everything to be perfect and everyone to be happy and taken care of.
We decided to ttc so started planning for most healthy conception and baby ever lol Martha!!! prenatals for both me and hubby one month before- menevit and elevit. Hubby is a big drinker so he cut back a bit to up his health.
We DTD when I thought I was fertile ( had ewcm) DTD two days in a row and ovulated 1-2 days after. I always had several red wines on the weekend drank two cups of unsweetened tea every morning cereal dark chocolate fruits veges wholegrains meat no soft drinks ever only juice water and tea. Hubby drinks coffee and energy drinks like crazy and always skips breakfast only eats 2 times per day.
I would have 6+ meals per day but always healthy choices and lots of salad!!! I did yoga twice per week and moderate walking 1-2 times per week.
I had big o ( always do) was missionary both times but deep iykwim. Lay for 30 minutes after. We always DTD 1-2 times per week and hubby releases on his own sometimes too. I always have a good few days of ewcm and high sex drive.
Conceived first month.
Second ds we swayed for 10 months for a girl le diet ( still lots of veges though) no fruit except for berries started eating sweets and carbs to up calories ate only twice per day alcohol every day drank coffee instead of tea stayed under 1500 cals per day breastfeeding ds1 4-6 times per day vegetarian diet coke aspartame took fibre felt really unhealthy lost 10 kgs looked very skinny no muscle mass. Hubby started riding and drinking sugar free drinks frequent release on his own 1-2 times per day then one attempt at pos opk very shallow used aci jel and rephresh jumped and dumped. Still made a boy!
I think the key factor for us is our personalities. Hubby is 36 but still has high sex drive I think high testosterone and is very masculine ( he's a tradie). We are both passionate people and are quick to defend people and help anyone in need.
I am mrs organised always thinking and planning and can never just let things happen its exhausting!!! I am not an emotional person I never cry but I am a protector of others I cannot stand injustice of any kind and always fight for the underdog. My husband is the same.
I had a great sway but I think I sabotaged it by my "can do" attitude. I have always worked so hard for everything in my life and have always achieved what I desire if I work hard enough so I thought swaying would be the same. But obviously it doesnt work that way!
I also think that my years and years of healthy eating could not be undone in just 10 months. I felt awful but I think even though I was still bf I had secret stores of nutrients hidden away lol! Also I didn't do the recommended exercise which I think would have reduced my testosterone and taken my mind if swaying more and therefore reduced my Martha personality!
I will get a custom plan next time to reduce my need to control and definitrly do the exercise! Also hubby will abstain next time because the fr only upped his testosterone I believe!
Hope this helps someone x
I'm new here, but thought I would add my experiences. I'll admit that I'm not completely sold on swaying yet, but I find the ideas very interesting. I have two boys. First boy wasn't planned at all. I was recovering from an eating disorder, and was eating 3000+ calories per day. Lots of meat, potatoes, baked goods, bread, etc. I wasn't taking any supplements. We were having frequent intercourse.
Before our second son was conceived I felt like I was too thin, so I started eating more. We ate a lot of meat, I cooked with heavy cream, ate full fat yogurt and lots of eggs with cheese. I wasn't taking any supplements, but I was taking Zyrtec and Sudafed due to really bad seasonal allergies (I conceived in May). I remember having only a tiny amount of EWCM that month and worrying I wouldn't be able to get pregnant because it was so scant.
Looking at my experiences with having two boys, medication didn't seem to matter. According to some, antihistamines are supposed to sway girl- I was taking a ton of them and had a boy. The one thing that was consistent with both of my boys was how much I was eating- way more than normal. So if there's any truth to this, and you want a boy, I would recommend eating a lot! Sounds way more fun than conceiving a girl :) hope this helps someone!
^^ when we tracked antihistamines in our results (we track differently than some other sites and it's better able to single out each individual variable) we found that they did not do anything for swaying. Totally neutral. Same amount of people got girls with and without them and it was identical to overall success rates of the site.
I am new...can you tell me what ECWM means? Sorry...
I am trying to determine if we need pre-seed!
EWCM = egg white cervical mucus. This is the slippery stretchy stuff generally thought easiest for sperm to swim through and hence best for ttc.Quote:
Originally Posted by agmegs02
I can see an obvious difference from my own lifestyle/diet when conceiving our 4 boys to those that conceived girls.
Here's mine...
Firstly, we never knew about swaying until I found this forum while pregnant with our 4th boy. Our 4 boys were all pretty much the same diet & lifestyle.
Our first 3 boys were planned & our 4th boy was our sweet surprise (got pregnant straight after a miscarriage - never got my period afterwards & fell pregnant within that month).
BREAKFAST - I hate breakfast cereal so I typically had 2 pieces of toast (1 with vegemite/marmite & the other with ginger jam). I love my poached eggs so would have them at least once per week with vegemite toast.
LUNCH - Sometimes I'd skip lunch, have an apple or just have leftovers from the night before
DINNER - Consisted of 1 vegetarian meal per week. Every other night was alternating between white & red meat with a heap of veges or salad
SNACKS - I was a big snacker; apples, nuts, potato chips, shapes biscuits, chocolate, sweet muffins, etc
DRINKS - I'm not a big alcohol drinker, only the 1 glass on special occasions. Not a fan of coffee or softdrink but absolutely love my black tea with a dash of milk & sugar (2-3 times per day). Love my juice.
OTHER - I wasn't on any medications however with our last 2 boys I was taking a "Nutraorganics Super Greens & Reds" powder mix with my juice just to be healthy.
Was never deliberately exercising. Had dessert every 2-3 days. I'm the biggest stress-head unfortunately - I stress over stressing
DTD - With all 4 boys; was always missionary, always the big O, always deep release, typically DTD every 2-3 days when I thought I was ovulating. I always waited 5 mins before jump & dump. No hot showers before or after any DTD. We never knew when I ovulated as I never checked.
DH - Loves his alcohol to relax on weekends (mainly beer, sometimes spirits). Loves his coffee (2-3 cups per day). We believe he has high testosterone due to many reasons (eg. very hairy, natural athletic build without even trying, ready to DTD anytime - he'd never say no, etc). Never took any medications. Absolutely loves his red meat, snacks heaps & loves his dessert. Never deliberately exercised however he has a hands on job as an aircraft maintenance engineer & is a pilot socially. Loves wakeboarding, surfing, etc whenever he gets the chance.
I think that's it, that's at the top of my head. Feel free to ask me any questions.
Thank you!! This is super helpful, and hopeful!Quote:
Originally Posted by mumof4boyz
Know my DH sounds exactly like yours, and we ended up with a girl from my unintentional girl lifestyle! Pink dust to you.
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Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
Thanks so much for your comment, it also gives me hope knowing our DH's are similar. He's not into swaying so all the changes are going to have to happen with me if we want any chance of a baby girl.
Feel free to ask me any Q's. I did forget to mention on there that I'm short (157cm) & have a fast metabolism, never weighed more then 55kg, not sure if that helps or not also.
Happily sending you all my blue dust :ttcboy:
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Originally Posted by mumof4boyz
My DH sounds like yours too!
I find it really interesting that a lot of the boy mum's on here seem to be naturally slim with high metabolism. Could the high metabolism be a factor or is it that we snack/eat a lot because we have high metabolism? I have two boys, got pregnant straight away with both, lots of EWCM, have always eaten regularly (every 2 hours at least) because I get weak/shaky if I don't (which is why LE diet is hard for me). I've always been pretty slim, can pretty much eat what I want and only fluctuate a few pounds, always eaten cereal as soon as I wake up, eat meat daily (more chicken than red meat but do like a steak), eat salmon, lots of cheese, creamy sauces, oh and love peanut butter, BIG portions - just eat when and what I want really, lots of healthy food but also lots of treats/high fat. Only ever done moderate exercise - max 2 swims a week. I am very competitive, will always stand up for what I think is just or fair, very protective of loved ones. I think I'm definitely a typical boy mum.
Hi everyone! So both of my boys were perfect unintentional boy sways.
Weight: 215, after nursing school, working night shift
Exercise: none
Diet: lots of red meat and potatoes and some green veggies, probably 1800-2000 cals. I specifically remember eating a lot of bananas, potatoes, and green beans in particular. Big on Pepsi and Coke. Protein bars for breakfast, fast food for lunch, big supper.
DH: boxer briefs, lifting weights, same diet as me.
DTD: deep missionary, doggy. Always o. Every 2-3 days at o.
Exercise: I tried to exercise in both time spans but it was generally few and far between cardio sessions.
Supplements: DS1: Vit D, Iron (for anemia). Ds2: prenatal because I had just had my first a couple of months before.
I think it's because we can eat a massive amount of food, get a massive amount of nutrition from it, and burn it off and still stay slim and in overall good condition. We may also have the ability to turn extra cals into muscle more easily than others do.Quote:
Originally Posted by onelastsway
RE getting weak/shaky on LE Diet - this does improve with time. But do ease into it and if you can never get down as far as some people, that's ok. As long as you're moving in the direction of more pinker than you were eating, that's what matters. Even if you eat 4 or even 5 times a day, that's still better than the all day grazing that many of us boy moms do. And if you change up the foods you eat at the same time, it is STILL a sway diet. LE Diet is NOT like the other sway diets where if you don't get everything just so your sway is destined to fail. Even just changing one or two little things may make the difference for you. So don't feel like you have to dive into the deep end on day one, it's ok to do things gradually over time and even if you never get "there" (whereever there is) you are still swaying!
Hey Atomic and all other blue swaying experts,
Short question please: how does breastfeeding sway, if at all? I think it sways ‘slightly’ pink – at least that’s the info I have seen on some old threads, not sure if this still holds true? That being said, and considering that weaning off breastfeeding takes some time (I guess? First timer here) how long should one wait theoretically after breastfeeding is over to be ‘sure’ that the breastfeeding won't affect one's sway?
Second question – how long in advance would you say one needs to start modifying one’s diet before attempting a sway? I mean, do you think it is preferable to start a very long time in advance (several months or a year even) so that one’s body has time to ‘adapt’ to the new eating and exercising patterns and ‘take them into account’?
Thanks so much! :D
I believe it sways pink, but I would not postpone TTC for breastfeeding. I think close spacing sways way more, and so as long as you're like 18 months postpartum I would TTC even if still nursing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChezIBY
I got one boy and one girl while breastfeeding, and then 3 boys without.
I think it's great to make SENSIBLE changes (like taking prenatals or multivitamins, adding weight training, eating better quality foods) as far in advance as you would like. But I would not try to boost your cals, gain any weight, etc until 6 weeks before you plan to TTC. There has been no evidence that blue swayers need to do 12 weeks on diet like pink swayers do, and this way you prevent excessive weight gain.
Thanks Atomic, super helpful :) :) And what a relief regarding the diet change, cause the HE diet sounds like a LOT of food to someone who is not used to snacking ^^
Atomic,
Yet another question please :) I noticed you mentioned stress in several of your posts, and the fact that it seems to sway blue. Not that one would intentionally place oneself under extra stress, but it is possible to time new jobs, ventures etc to avoid having an added level of stress at a given moment.
So.. how do stress levels sway??
Thanks for your insight!
It does, but remember as long as you're eating more than you were, that is what matters. EVen if you don't get up to the larger amounts of food, the important thing is that you're eating more than you were whne you got your DD.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChezIBY
It's not stress that sways blue. Stress actually sways PINK when it's uncontrollable stressful events.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChezIBY
Being a control freak, highly driven, putting YOURSELF under stress may sway blue. Like starting up new exciting projects and things like that.
I know for girl sways, the longer the better, and for boy sways there's the impetus to get pregnant ASAP so as to not gain too much weight -- have you observed a certain threshold with the "as long as you were eating more than before"? I know we have several ED recovered people who got pregnant with boys* (edit: oops, said girls here before) during or after recovery, for example, but I sometimes worry that my change from such extreme LE to more HE eating while pregnant with DD (so, minus weight gaining calories, an HE diet and sups now for roughly a year) means that my body's so used to it that when we TTC, there might be some new threshold I have to hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Though that might be glimmers of the ED talking...
I literally thought the same yeaterday! I incread my food ibtake whilst pregnant (not on purpose) en kept it that way until now which is almost 2 years. And I kept wondering how it might work against my boy sway as my body is used to this amount of calories (I eat less bread and patatoes now and more veggies plus nuts). Nice TP, interesting :C:Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
No. While I do think it can sometimes go the other way, I'm talking YEARS here. (meaning, someone who eats very little for a long time can kinda get used to it and still make boys)
I had boys when I was 21 and 25, ate the exact same way for 13 years, then when I was 36 had 2 MORE boys. If there was some effect that wore off over time surely I would have been susceptible to it (especially with my 4th boy since I was dieting with him)
As long as the person in question is not:
limiting calcium and ESPECIALLY Vit. D
eating tons of sodium
gaining tons of weight
trying to get pregnant the whole time and is not able to conceive for some mysterious, inexplicable reason
...we have seen great results with people on diet for longer. Great. I don't think it hurts blue sways at all to be on HE Diet for a long time.
Thought I should add how I got my little guy too :)
Eating:
I was on the thinner side but was a big snacker. I love cookies, candy, chocolate, you name it if it was in the house I would eat it! I usually had to stop my husband from buying crap or I would eat it all. I always had breakfast, I thought I couldn't function without it. Usually a big bowl of froot loops.. for lunch was usually Subway or McDonalds or something terrible for me since I work in a mall so the food court was always at my disposal. I drank a coke or pepsi usually at least once a day. We ate a lot of red meat, chicken, for dinner, it was always very random. No coffee but tons of Tea.
Exercise:
None, I worked a desk job and didn't do much after work other than take my dog for a quick walk.
Supplements:
Started taking prenatal vitamins 3 months before we started TTC.
Sex:
My app told me that I was ovulating (no temps or CM checks, just going off my periods) so I told hubby we were doing it. We BD once that week (hubby worked out of town a lot). I have no idea if he released in the days before. I was on top, did not orgasm and no lube was used. I also jumped and dumped.
Ions:
Full Moon and Boy Month on Chinese calendar
I napped a lot and slept 10-12 hours each night. I was very well rested. I am a pretty high strung person, not much to stress about but little things to get me and stay with me for awhile.
Wow I sound like a terribly unhealthy lazy person.. I have been changing things around with this girl sway so FX!!!
Haha, you don't at all! Thank you for sharing!Quote:
Originally Posted by lovepink13
I'm curious about the jump and dump -- were you trying for a girl? Or not actually TTC?
We were just trying for a baby and I just assumed it would be a girl [emoji51] This time around I am 100% trying for a girl! I always jump and dump.. it seems weird but I hate the feeling of it seeping out of me 🤷*♀️Quote:
Originally Posted by Throwaway_panther
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^^^ a lot of people do it habitually because some recommendations to prevent UTI's involve peeing right after intercourse.
Ack, i never put two and two together. I was always going to the bathroom soon after sex before DD because I always have to pee -- add another unintentional girl sway tactic to me lolQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush